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Conference 7.286::digital

Title:	The Digital way of working

Moderator:	QUARK::LIONELON

Created:	Fri Feb 14 1986
Last Modified:	Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:	Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:	5321
Total number of notes:	139771

2263.0. "info on 4-10 hr days" by POBOX::SEIBERTR () Fri Dec 04 1992 11:24

    I'd like some information on working 4-10hr days.  A friend of mine
    just started working these hours and she was told to put down 8 hrs of
    regular time and 2 hrs of overtime on her timecard.  An issue came up
    on what she should be putting down for the holidays.  If she puts down
    only 8 hrs, she will not get a  40 hr check.  Also, she was told she is
    not considered to be an "R40" because she does not work 40hrs of
    regular time.  She is concerned about this because she was told these
    hours would not affect any of her benefits--however she is concerned
    now that it might, especially after being told she is not considered an
    "R40" AFTER she took the hours.  It was the manager's secretary which
    told her this by the way, not the manager.  I'm sure she will be
    talking it over with the manager, however I thought I'd post a note and
    hopefully hear from those of you who work hours like this or you
    managers who have people under you who work these hours.
    
    Please don't drag this into a rat hole.
    
    Oh, yes, I did try calling personnel, however they are hard to get to
    right now because they are preparing for You-Know-What.  That's another
    reason I thought a note might be a speedy way for some answers!!!!
    
    Thanks,
    Renee

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2263.1	I WAS THERE!	POBOX::GEGNER		`Fri Dec 04 1992 11:48`	12
	Renee, I worked a 4 day shift for several yrs. What I remember is for holidays you would put 10hr holiday. What will happen is she will not put down time for one holiday, due to you get only so many holiday hours a year. As for benifits there should be no effect, but she should still talk with personnel. Hope this was help. Regards, Brian Gegner
2263.2	:-)	ELWOOD::LANE	This space for rent	`Fri Dec 04 1992 11:56`	3
	>Please don't drag this into a rat hole. Why do they call it a rat hole?
2263.3	thanks!!	POBOX::SEIBERTR		`Fri Dec 04 1992 12:01`	6
	Thanks, Brian!! ::Lane, thanks alot!!! There's probably going to be 50 replys to why its called a rat hole instead of my original question!!! :):) Renee
2263.4	!	FUNYET::ANDERSON	21st Century computing starts today	`Fri Dec 04 1992 12:46`	6
	Those who want to discuss the origin of the term "rat hole" please start a Rat Hole topic. But perhaps it should be done in a VAX Notes conference somewhere. What would then be considered a rathole in the Rathole topic? Paul
2263.5	Orangebook section 6.41	COMET::BARRIANO	choke me in the shallow water...	`Fri Dec 04 1992 15:01`	36
	re <<< Note 2263.0 by POBOX::SEIBERTR >>> -< info on 4-10 hr days >- > just started working these hours and she was told to put down 8 hrs of > regular time and 2 hrs of overtime on her timecard. An issue came up > on what she should be putting down for the holidays. If she puts down > only 8 hrs, she will not get a 40 hr check. Also, she was told she is Rene, She's still eligible for R40 benefits Holiday pay is 80 hours/year for R40's (this includes 8 hours of location choice and 8 hours of personal choice) she should be putting down 10 hours of holiday pay (that she will be charged for) plus 1 hour of misc (to make up for shift premium) which she will not be charged for. Vacation pay will work the same way, if she takes a day or two at a time. If she takes a full week of vacation, she should enter it as 8x5=40 hours. If she or you have access to VTX (or hardcopy orangebook) at the DCL prompt Type VTX ORANGEBOOK then do PF1 7 on the keypad (this should get you into a keyword prompt) TYPE s 6.41 (this will get you into the special workweek section of the Policy & Procedures Manual, everything is self explanitory from then on). Sections 2.06 and 6.40 are relevant also. Hope this helps. If she or you do not have access to VTX, send me E-mail and I'll extract section 6.41 and send it to you. Regards Barry
2263.6	thanks Barry	POBOX::SEIBERTR		`Fri Dec 04 1992 15:37`	3
	Thanks Barry, I'm still checking in here for relevant responses! Renee
2263.7		STAR::ABBASI	i like to sleep	`Fri Dec 04 1992 16:07`	16
	.2 >Why do they call it a rat hole? i dont mean to start a rat hole, but a note is called a rat hole because like when the mouse when it goes out to look for its foods at night it digs the sand on the air up high by its back feet and the dust all over the place and the other nice mouses who want to look for food too cant see anything any more and they complain about it, that is we call it a rat hole. hope this help. now, back to regular discussions. /nasser
2263.8	Perhaps Alice was chasing a rat??	GRANPA::BPALUS		`Fri Dec 04 1992 19:50`	6
	This time, like any other time, is a good time for a rat hole if only one knows what to do with it....anon !!!NOW!!! can we have a rat hole social hour??? IT's BYORH time. Com'n everyone, bring your favorite rat hole to share.
2263.9	4-10's	TEMPE::FORTNER		`Mon Dec 07 1992 17:15`	7