Conference 7.286::digital

    In ELF, Z's organizational unit is list as U.S. AREA MANAGEMENT.  That
    is the cost center where TFSOd U.S. employees go for the first nine
    weeks of their package that they are still officially employees.  So,
    it would appear that VPs aren't immune.

                       <<< Note 2229.1 by TANG::RHINE >>>

>    In ELF, Z's organizational unit is list as U.S. AREA MANAGEMENT.  That
>    is the cost center where TFSOd U.S. employees go for the first nine
>    weeks of their package that they are still officially employees.  So,
>    it would appear that VPs aren't immune.

Don WAS US Area Management!  The fact that others are pulled in there is
a finance/personnel administrative process.  There are others in that
heading who ARE, in fact, US Area Management!

    I was under the impression that those who are TFSO'd are put
    into a RESTRUCTURING organization within ELF.
    
    Jim C.
    

    re: .3
    
    Not in the U.S.

    Just look at ELF for someone you know was TFSOed.  I checked some 
    recently let go excellent employees, and what do ya know, they are
    tagged as U.S. AREA MANAGEMENT.

    re: .4
    
    That's funny because the 35 who were TFSO'd in my Org, I work in
    Maynard Ma. USA, 10 weeks ago mysteriously were put in that Org.
    They are no longer listed in ELF as the 9 weeks are up.
    
    Jim C.
    

    re: .0
    
    We can only hope that the right things are happening...

    Our group's TFSO's are now 'CENTRAL GROUP' in ELF.  bb

    Re .-1
    
    Yes I noticed that too. "US AREA MANAGEMENT" used to be the flag that
    somebody was TSFOed "CENTRAL GROUP" appears to be the latest euphemism.
    So that implies ZERESKI hasn't been TSFOed (yet...).
    
    Dave

I'm pretty sure there was an announcement a month or two
ago that Zereski had been given some new position (something to
do with increasing revenue).  It was the kind of position that
sounded like a holding tank until he could find a new position
outside of DEC.  

      I checked on a few of the folks I know who were "packaged" and they
    show up as being in USL -U.S. LOGISTICS. 
    
    Paul
    

    Don't know what the organization is identified as but "transitioned"
    people go into cost center ZB9 immediately upon notificaton until the
    end of 9 weeks when they disappear.
    
    -db-

    	 I don't know the strategy behind placing TFSO'd emloyees into
    	various organizations but I can tell you, my group had some TFSO'd
    	people back in August/September and some of us tracked the 
    	organization deal for a few weeks. We stopped watching after 
    	realizing that the TFSO'd people seemed to change organizations every 
    	week or two. 
    
    	 For what it's worth, back in early September when our TFSO'd
    	people mere moved into "U S AREA MANAGEMENT", we also noticed that 
    	Don Zereski was classified there too. I guess that means if he IS
    	being TFSO's, DEC is keeping his name for a long time anyhow.
    	Something, I sincerely doubt...
    
    
    	Glenn
    
    
    Glenn
    	

     The transition cost center, to which one is assigned, is dependent upon
the organization for which the individual worked.  Tracking a single 
transitioned employee's cost center may tell you nothing about another 
transitioned employee's cost center. 
 
                                     Greg

PS: The same may apply in the case of tracking multiple employees from the same
    organization.

   RE: .14 (and .12)  In the former Southern States Region, cost center ZB9
   is being used as the "transitional" Cost Center, cross-functionally, and
   without regard to the organization for which the individual worked.

   There are 159 names in the ZB9 cost center category for this geography,
   as of 18-NOV-1992.

Hummmmmmmm......... ZB9

Since this is the Zereski note must mean (Zereski Box for 9 wks).

Sorry, the devil made me type it.

John I.

    Can someone tell how you can look at the list of names of cost center
    ZB9?   Thank you.
    
    Rick
    

	Re .17

>>    Can someone tell how you can look at the list of names of cost center
      ZB9?   Thank you.

		I think it probably has just that one name - ZB9

		Jim



		:-)

    I was wondering if there was a way to look at the list of people who
    were TFSO'd this time around.
    
    
    Thanks,
    Rick
    

    This is getting to be a real need. It is getting to the point that it
    is becoming extremely difficult to do business in this organization.
    The number of times I have sent mail to people in the last month, only
    to find, after not getting an answer back, after a while, that they
    have been transitioned, is infuriating. In some cases, they have been
    gone for 3-4 months, their nodes are still receiving mail, (which isn't
    being forwarded) and they are still in elf.
    
    

    re: .20
    
    I've seen the same thing time and time again. I get told that so
    and so is a good reference for something I'm working on. Try to
    get in touch with them only to find out they are gone. 
    
    If a TFSO'd account is DISUSERED it ought to be DISMAIL'd and/or
    DISNEWMAIL'd as well. The inference would be there and one wouldn't
    have to wait for no reply.
    
    Jim C.
    
    

    Re:  last two.......AMEN!!
    
    It's difficult enough doing one's job these days without wasting
    countless amounts of time tracking down people who are history.
    
    K
    

    If such a list exists (and I doubt that) I don't think the general DEC
    population will be allowed to see it.
    
    Ken

    So, one wonders how dear old Don's "special projects" turned out.  I do
    hope he completed them before the end of the year.
    
    Dnb

    Wonder if he got a $200 bonus for completing his special projects?

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VNS COMPUTER NEWS:                            [Tracy Talcott, VNS Computer Desk]
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 Data General - Names former Digital executive as VP
	{The Boston Globe, 13-Oct-93, p. 38}
   Data General named Donald P. Zereski, a longtime Digital executive, as VP of
 its systems integration business unit.  Zereski said DG appealed to him
 because the $1.1 billion company has "very, very cleverly moved into open
 systems architecture and has really dedicated themselves to providing open
 systems, hardware, software and now total solutions.  My job is to help
 customers integrate that."  For the past year Zereski has been running his own
 consulting firm, advising Eastern European countries on information
 technology.  Before that, he worked 30 years at Digital, most recently as VP
 of US area operations.  He was the only Digital employee to work in all of its
 three international areas, and said that experience understanding different
 international customs, training and cultural diversity will serve him well at
 Data General.

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From today's Boston Globe:

Groupe Bull said that Donald P. Zereski has been named president and chief
executive of Bull North & South America, a new position.  Zereski will be
responsible for all of Bull's business operations in these regions.  He
will also serve as a director.