Conference 7.286::digital

	I believe that personnel has to do audits regularly. For one thing
	they have to make sure the EEOC information is there. The various
	government people want to look at that from time to time.

			Alfred

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    I think you should be highly suspect and completely paranoid of this.

    I would. I get paranoid and start shacking just passing by the personal 
    dept. 

    back to your audit, if it comes out to nothing, and hopefully it will, 
    all what you've done is got an early start of the practice of being 
    paranoid if the real thing does happen, then you can help your 
    other colleagues who were not wise enough to practice early like you 
    did, but either way you wont lose anything by starting it right
    now.

    good luck,

    /nasser

    
    Moments like this make me want to give you a big wet kiss, Nasser. 
    
    ;-)
    
    -Ed
    

    re .0
    
    don't be paranoid. It's an incompetent, in the first place, personel
    organization, now trying to justify their existence, by looking busy...
    
    q
    

On the other hand,
regardless of the audit, the way thhings stand,
being paranoid is a perfectly reasonable response.
Kevin

    
    Don't worry, Ed, but if they ask you to fill out an applicationDEC,
    then you can start worrying. 

    paranoia is the norm in DEC these days....

    Ed,
    
    Ok, the audit shows there was no application form.  At the time you
    applied for work in Digital, you had no access to Digital files nor
    could you have misfiled the information.  Send a request for action by
    the responsible psa and/or your hiring manager because you found out
    (independently of their audit which you conveniently ignore) that this
    document was removed from your file and are highly incensed at this
    irregularity.  Put them on the defensive.  
    
    In the meantime, update your resum�, just in case.
    
    (just fooling)
    
    Dick

I seems to me that you have a concern that should be expressed to your manager or
to your personnel rep. You need more information. Direct your questions to the
people chartered to answer them. Being paranoid is a result of a guessing whats
going to happen...find out for certain.

norm

    During my first year with DEC, personnel requested additional copies of
    my resum� twice and at least one extra application.  They kept syaing
    they couldn't find them.
    
    Somewhere around my 2nd anniversary, I got a call from a recruiter in
    DEC personnel asking if I was "still interested in working for
    Digital".  It seems that all those resum�s and apps. were being filed
    in the "applicant" file instead of the "employee" file, and this guy
    had been assigned to follow up on old applications to see if he could
    find some candidates (without paying an agency fee).
    
    \dave

    
    No application you say,......
    
    
    
    Are you sure you have been going to work at the right place all 
    this time?  Maybe you don't really work for Digital!!!
    
    

    No need to be paranoid, as long as you fill in the application
    correctly. 
    
    I recall some wording on the application to the effect of
    'misrepresentation of information provided could be grounds for
    dismissal'.
    
    As long as what you what you write on the application matches 100% of
    what you would have written on it 3 years ago, I'd say you're golden!
    
    hth,
    
    Kevin

    One can only wonder what would happen if the "missing" application
    turned up and there were significant differences with the "replacement"
    application ...
    
    Steve

    RE: the last few
    
    A year or so ago, NYC personnel sent out request to many of us "old
    timers" who'd been with DEC 15 years or so. What they wanted was for us
    to fill out job applications cause they "lost track" of the
    originals!!!
    
    Needless to say, I don't think anyone did anything other than what
    I did with it - put it in the circular file!!!
    
    Marc

I doubt there is any legal basis for someone to again fill out a job
application.

In light of current layoffs, if your performance warrants your retention
I hardly see the point of having an application.

I'd prefer a signed statement in my file from someone in personnel saying that
they screwed up and lost it...

Lee

    In the meantime, you might want to check your passport file...
    
    ...and your mothers passport file ;^}
    

    I seem to recall some new regulations which went into effect 4-5 years
    ago.  I think they were designed to prevent illegal aliens from 
    getting jobs.  One of the requirements for employment was proof of
    citizenship.  The company was subject to inspections and heavy fines
    if they didn't have these records on file.  I remember that several of
    the people who worked for me were required to produce proof of
    citizenship.  There was also some sort of "grandfather"  (should that 
    now read grandperson?) clause for those hired before the effective date
    of the regulations.
    
    Who knows?  This might be the cause of the "audit" of your records.  In
    any event, the advice is correct:  first go to your manager.  If not
    satisfied with the answer, then go to your PSA.
    
    Chet

    
    That form is referred to as an I9, and is not part of the job
    application per se, just an addendum. I recently had to fill one out
    for a place that I moonlight at, I've been there on-and-off for over 2
    years and I never remember even *filling out* an *application*, let
    alone any other paperwork....

    Don't worry - lost employment applications/audits occurred long before
    "TFSO" became a dreaded acronym at Digital.  People who think it is a
    seedy plot by Personnel to look busy when they're not haven't looked
    recently at how few people there really are in Personnel and how
    overworked those few are doing work that we really need to have them
    doing.  I'm certain the audits would not be done without some legal
    requirement that forces them.
    
    Of course, you *should* worry if you recall falsifying your original
    employment application but cannot remember exact details of *how* you
    falsified it :-}

    I know I've never filled out an application for employment at 
    Digital. I don't think it is that uncommon.
    
                                 Steve J.