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Conference 7.286::digital

Title:The Digital way of working
Moderator:QUARK::LIONELON
Created:Fri Feb 14 1986
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:5321
Total number of notes:139771

2194.0. "missed opportunity?" by TOOHOT::ROCHA () Mon Nov 02 1992 18:47

    My customer is hiring, approximately 50 positions.  Digital is
    down-sizing.  I see an opportunity for the customer, Digital and those
    TSFOed (I am not after those still employed). 

    It has taken 3+ years to get this customer to base it's future on
    Digital technology.  Now that we have, it would help to have ex-DECies
    on this, and other, customers staffs.  It would help the customer
    quickly establish a highly skilled staff in new technology.  It would
    help Digital with the integration of our technology with that of the
    customer.  It would help place good but unfortunate talent back to
    work.

    What I do not see is a method for doing just this.  Who do I notify
    about just such and opportunity?

    Ed Rocha 
    566-4774
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2194.1Not official but...DELNI::SUMNERMon Nov 02 1992 22:239
    	 Try posting a note in the {OASS,WARIOR}::JOBS notes file.
    	If you give some requirements, positions or contacts I bet
    	you'll have responses up the wazoo. I don't think the
    	conference is considered "official" but it has become an
    	active and trusted method for exchanging information about
    	jobs and talent.
    
    
    	Glenn
2194.2TSFOed only methodTOOHOT::ROCHATue Nov 03 1992 10:4812
    .1,  I had that same idea too.  But, I figured the entry would be set
    hidden or removed.  I don't thing that conference allows recruiting for 
    outside positions.  Mater of fact, I once asked a moderator of that
    conference and was told no.  The idea is to reach the TSFOed.  
    
    I have an entry in the JOBS conference about a temporary assignment and
    have received two calls from outside firms who are placing ex-DECies. 
    I'd like to find these same people without the placement fees
    associated with these outside firms...
    
    
    /ed
2194.3NOTIME::SACKSGerald Sacks ZKO2-3/N30 DTN:381-2085Tue Nov 03 1992 10:522
Doesn't DEC contract with an outside firm for outplacement services?
I think you could inform this firm of your customer's needs with DEC's blessing.
2194.4Make some calls WFOV12::MOKRAYTue Nov 03 1992 11:043
    Drake Beam Morin is the outside contract agency.  Phone is
    508-480-3892.  Someone there could probably help.  I'd also contact
    Personnel/US Employment at MSO and tell them about the opportunity.  
2194.5SWAM1::PEDERSON_PABuy Bespeckled-Bovine brandTue Nov 03 1992 11:516
    Ed,
    
    Call Lynn Kraft for the DBM outplacement service in our
    area (I'm assuming you're in TFO, too).
    
    pat
2194.6DBM = no fee!TOOHOT::ROCHATue Nov 03 1992 12:338
    .4, Thanks!  Drake Beam Morin is the correct "no fee" source for TSFOed
    ex-DECies.  Their free number is 1-800-359-6525.  Note that they have
    offices in most states and a global database.  But, with the current
    level of activity, local databases do exist.  Therefore, you might want
    to have your customer notify numerous sites where the skills they need
    or more likely to reside...
    
    /ed
2194.7OXNARD::KOLLINGKaren/Sweetie/Holly/Little Bit Ca.Wed Nov 04 1992 18:323
    The Jobs conference seems to have relaxed its rules a bit lately.
    I've seen "customer slots" posted there.
    
2194.8OK - I'll try itTOOHOT::ROCHAThu Nov 05 1992 12:234
    re -1,: I'll give it a try.  The worst that happens is it gets hidden
    or removed.
    
    /ed
2194.94334 - 4336, JOBSTOOHOT::ROCHAThu Nov 05 1992 17:364
    I have entered notes 4334, 4335 and 4336 in the JOBS notes
    conference...
    
    /ed
2194.10They're goneMYCKEY::ROMANSummer's my 2nd favorite thingFri Nov 06 1992 10:263
I just checked the JOBS notesfile and 4334, 4335 and 4336 are missing.

Try something else. 
2194.11equal application of the rules?TOOHOT::ROCHAFri Nov 06 1992 18:266
    I just check too, and they are GONE!.  Interesting, 4192 is still
    there - it is for positions at Litton...
    
    ;^(
    
    /ed
2194.12No company would do this (and survive :-)MAY21::PSMITHPeter H. Smith,MLO5-5/E71,223-4663,ESBMon Nov 23 1992 11:4210
    I would guess that it would not be acceptable to advertise job openings
    which are of interest to people Digital _wants_ to keep to those people.
    So, you need to find methods which advertise only to the TFSO pool, in
    order to get the word out.

    For example, if those 50 positions were for people who had skills which
    Digital still values, it would not be in Digital's interest to have all
    employees know about them.  At best, it would result in renegotiation of
    salaries, since a "hot" company looking to ramp up fast would make some
    "above average" offers.  At worst, it would result in a brain drain...