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2153.1 | This is in LIVEWIRE as well | CVG::THOMPSON | Radical Centralist | Fri Oct 09 1992 12:45 | 4 |
| The LIVEWIRE article is almost word for word the same as the
memo in .0.
Alfred
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2153.2 | | UTROP1::SIMPSON_D | $SH QUO: You have -1 miracles left! | Mon Oct 12 1992 13:02 | 1 |
| Dick Poulson is no Pierre Carlo Falotti.
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2153.3 | Delighted for Strecker as well | IW::WARING | Silicon,*Software*,Services | Mon Oct 12 1992 13:48 | 4 |
| Dick used to be Field Service Manager in Europe (and Bobby was Tony James'
boss in the late '70s early '80s). He's certainly got a reputation for
being impatient with slow progress...
- Ian W.
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2153.4 | | ULYSSE::WADE | | Mon Oct 12 1992 14:38 | 8 |
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<<< Note 2153.2 by UTROP1::SIMPSON_D "$SH QUO: You have -1 miracles left!" >>>
Dick Poulson is no Pierre Carlo Falotti.
I think you meant to refer to Pierre-Carleau?
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2153.5 | similar persona's as BP | CTHQ::COADY | | Mon Oct 12 1992 15:15 | 7 |
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I hear that both the European and GIA VP's are competant, bottom line
numbers ( $$$$) people. Maybe they will help the company establish a
successful 'present' state, while Strecker et al, work for future
goals.
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2153.6 | | WR1FOR::LEZAMA_RO | | Mon Oct 12 1992 18:17 | 14 |
| When my account had some problems in the GIA geography I called on Dick
Poulsen for assistance. He flew to California to meet with his
counterpart and conducted himself with a high degree of credibility and
professionalism. He left with several action items which he followed
up on immediately on his return east.
He responded to me and he responded to my customer.
We were both impressed.
One thing that surprised me was that he came here alone. I expected
him to have several of his entourage with him but he was a one man
show.
I personally think this is GIA's loss and Eurpoe's gain.
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2153.7 | | UTROP1::SIMPSON_D | $SH QUO: You have -1 miracles left! | Tue Oct 13 1992 06:57 | 5 |
| Having worked in GIA for some years my impression of Poulson is exactly
the opposite. AS far as I'm concerned he's a typical Digital VP hack.
Falotti, on the other hand, had a vision. You don't have to agree with
visionaries but you have to respect their achievements. Falotti made
things happen for Europe. Poulson presided over GIA's decline.
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2153.8 | I find it discouraging | LGP30::FLEISCHER | without vision the people perish (381-0899 ZKO3-2/T63) | Wed Oct 14 1992 00:05 | 12 |
| re Note 2153.0:
> BILL STRECKER TO HEAD ENGINEERING,
I read this as a vote of confidence for engineering as it has
been conducted (in general) over the past few years.
I know that, in conversations with colleagues recently, none
of use even considered Strecker a likely candidate for
Engineering VP.
Bob
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2153.9 | | SUBURB::THOMASH | The Devon Dumpling | Mon Oct 19 1992 09:00 | 10 |
| > Falotti, on the other hand, had a vision. You don't have to agree with
> visionaries
Oh yes, and the vision
"we don't need women on the board because we all have one at home"
You're right, I don't agree with him.
Heather
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2153.10 | | BONNET::BONNET::SIREN | | Mon Oct 19 1992 09:08 | 7 |
| re .9
...but lots of managers in Europe seem to agree...
--Ritva
Btw. I don't.
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2153.11 | Please don't make sweeping generalisations ! | CHEFS::HEELAN | Arbol�, arbol�... seco y verde | Mon Oct 19 1992 11:11 | 7 |
| re .9
......but lots of managers in Europe (also) seem (not) to agree...
- John
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2153.12 | | SUBURB::THOMASH | The Devon Dumpling | Mon Oct 19 1992 12:02 | 15 |
| > <<< Note 2153.11 by CHEFS::HEELAN "Arbol�, arbol�... seco y verde" >>>
> -< Please don't make sweeping generalisations ! >-
>
> re .9
This was not a sweeping generalisation,
it was a direct quote from Pierre Carlo
Which, not only did I disagree with, but I thought showed a great
lack of judgement.
It is definately specific.
Heather
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2153.13 | | BONNET::BONNET::SIREN | | Mon Oct 19 1992 13:05 | 8 |
| re .11
My comment was a generalization. On the other hand, I have looked
around and not seen very many female managers in Europe. It is
what people are doing that counts, not what they say.
--Ritva
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2153.14 | An interesting relationship... | MLNOIS::HARBIG | Riempendo di vuoto il nulla. | Mon Oct 19 1992 13:06 | 4 |
| Since the owner and founder of ASK is a woman he'll probably
have to revise his philosophy :-).
Max
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2153.15 | Ooops ! | CHEFS::HEELAN | Arbol�, arbol�... seco y verde | Mon Oct 19 1992 13:39 | 10 |
| re Heather
Sorry, finger problems replied to .9 and not .10
re Ritva
Check out the UK: there are many managers and supervisors who are
female.
John
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2153.17 | | CHEFS::HEELAN | Arbol�, arbol�... seco y verde | Mon Oct 19 1992 14:49 | 1 |
| Q.E.D.
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2153.16 | | ASICS::LESLIE | See ASICS""::andyleslie.gif | Mon Oct 19 1992 18:14 | 1 |
| Heather is a Manager in the UK...........
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2153.18 | There are exceptions | BONNET::BONNET::SIREN | | Mon Oct 19 1992 19:09 | 8 |
| Just to clarify the situation ;^). I was a female manager too. I changed to
international consultancy on my own free will. As a consultant I have
a good change to make observations. I still don't see women very often in
management positions whatever is the reason.
--Ritva
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2153.19 | | SUBURB::THOMASH | The Devon Dumpling | Tue Oct 20 1992 05:38 | 16 |
| I'm an IT consultant, and part of a management team, I am no longer a
manger of people, but manage an area of business, and also deliver IT
consultancy in that area.
The others in the management team manage people as well as an area of
the business and delivery, 3 are female, two are male, and our manager
is female.
So, of a management team of 7, 5 are female and 2 are male.
I don't think that this is the norm, however in my time in Digital, it's
not that rare either.
End of rathole, back to normal service.
Heather
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2153.20 | | ULYSSE::WADE | | Tue Oct 27 1992 09:44 | 44 |
|
This list might be a little out of date, but
I think it is accurate enough to show the
situation at the top in Europe. According
to the list, there are 34 functional and
country managers in Europe, all men.
Just FYI. Jim.
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Dick Poulsen
Giorgio Corsi GEC @GEO
Peter Smith GEC @GEO
Dick Esten GEO @GEO
Sergio Giacoletto GEO @GEO
Werner Oppliger GEC @GEO
Jack Schweizer GEO @GEO
Stan Smits VBE @VBE
Beat Stiefel GEC @GEO
Hans Dirkmann Villingen @KBO
Michel Ferreboeuf EVO @EVO
Alberto Fresco GEC @GEO
Wolfgang Jaeger GEC @GEO
Joerg Rieder MUNICH @RTO
Geoff Shingles READING @RES
Beat Stiefel GEO @GEO
Constantine Aloupis ATHENS @HEL
Antonio Almeida LISBON @XIP
Semih Arslanoglu ISTANBUL @TWI
Ferenc Bati BUDAPEST @BPS
Antti Halila COPENHAGEN @DMO
Mario Bonzano MILAN @MLN
Bo Dimert STOCKLHOLM @SOO
Michel Ferreboeuf EVRY @EVO
Bob van Randeraat UTRECHT @UTO
Hans Jarnik VIENNA @VNO
Henry Keller ZURICH @ZUO
Birger Kvaavik OSLO @NWO
Derek MacHugh DUBLIN @DBO
Pekka Roine HELSINKI @FNO
Gianni Messora EVRY @EVO
Paul Van der Spiegel BRUSSELS @BRO
Gil Weiser TEL AVIV @ISO
David Cooper GENEVA @GEO
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