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2125.1 | | BIGUN::ANDERSON | The Unbearable Fuzziness of Marketing | Wed Sep 23 1992 05:52 | 26 |
| Jan
I think David Stone and Charlie Christ are negotiating with Bob Palmer
et al, and negotiations are not done. That means no one can really
answer your questions definitively. I heard that there was a Woods
meeting in early Sept and I've heard nought about what happened there.
We are doing software in areas of operating systems, networks, CASE,
database, DECtp, and Office. Its just hard to say exactly what we'll
develop, what we'll sell to someone else (eg Trellis?, like we did VAX
COBOL Generator), what we'll buy off someone else, what we'll
productise from non-product rather than develop from scratch (eg
Objectworks instead a new Teamlinks for Ultrix?), and so on. In some
ways its a great shame that software is still split across VPs. I see
benefits longer term if Office and CASE (for example) are in same
group (means we may get CASE tools that help do Office applications).
Look at the way Notes interfaces popped up everywhere except from the
Notes developers....needs driven but not managed.
I'm in Software Marketing and I'm excited and optimistic about the
changes that might happen from Bob Palmer etc,, and I too need to know
ASAP what software we're doing. In the Office space alone we could lose
a couple of millions in sales just due to delays in making decisions in
Charlie Christ's area about products and inability to offer solutions.
Today, sell what exists not what might exist one day.
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2125.2 | Software as a market for Digital | SCAACT::RESENDE | | Wed Sep 23 1992 13:09 | 37 |
| re: .0
> I am looking forward to see Digital moving to Sofware
> and Services.
>
> What I would like to know is "what sofware".
>
> Yesterdays TeamLinks press announcement, which quotes
> VP Charles Christ contains a big commitment
> to the PC / Office Software market.
>
> This fully contradicts with the non-messages given
> during the European End-User Experts meeting in Brussels last week.
I'd be interested in what was said in this European meeting. If some can
elaborate for us all.
Like the author of .1, I'm also in the software marketing organization and we
are excited about making Digital a bigger player in this arena. However, as the
author of .1 alluded, we are seeing a lot of paralysis awaiting decisions from
high management levels (Christ, Stone, and who knows who else) regarding what
products we will have to market in the future and what the corporate visions are
and what the corporate infrastructure will be to support marketing activities -
contrary to popular belief, good marketing does not take place in a vacuum.
Walking the aisles in the local computer stores (Computer City, CompUSA, and
Comp-U-ADD), I find it extremely depressing to consider our position in the
end-user shrink-wrapped software market. The few products we do have that could
be on the shelves (Vivace, DECwrite/Windows, eXcursion ...) aren't to be seen
anywhere.
We certainly have a job to do. We need decisions made to free us up to act
with more empowerment. Currently, we're doing the best we can, in a near vacuum
that pervades this company.
Fix the paralysis, Mr. Palmer. Move forward with your plan 9/30/92 and let's
get Digital moving forward.
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2125.3 | | UTROP1::SIMPSON_D | $SH QUO: You have 0 miracles left! | Thu Sep 24 1992 06:53 | 29 |
| I was in Brussels for that conference. It is clear that Digital is
rapidly losing its way due to management indecision.
The number of engineering groups without funding is horrifying. The
number of 'products' in their bottom drawers is appalling. The lack of
commitment and direction from senior management is unforgivable.
One thing I find hard to reconcile are statements like 'Digital is
committed to the <mumble> market' with the reality of too few products
too late, fewer engineers and engineering groups, and the *OBVIOUS*
lack of communication between groups. For example, our Windows
products don't even look like they came from the same company (DEC
Mailworks looks and feels nothing like Teamlinks, which is different
again from Pathworkslinks, etc.).
Steve Martin tried to address the issue of Teamlinks v Objectworks by
saying that we should focus less on code and more on the strategy, ie.,
it doesn't matter what the code is or where it comes from as long as
fits the strategy. Sounds good in principle, but frankly it sounds far
too much like 'trust us', and I, for one, don't anymore, and I know
more than a few colleagues who feel the same. We've only been
promising Teamlinks-like functionality for about five years.
My impression after five days of the EUEN was that Digital doesn't have
a strategy worth squat, we don't know where we're going or how we're
going to get there. There's still a lot of talented and dedicated
people making products - many of which, as I said, are buried in bottom
drawers because of lack of funding - but our senior management have
shown themselves utterly incapable of running the company.
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2125.4 | We're expecting a lot - and hope we get it! | IW::WARING | Silicon,*Software*,Services | Thu Sep 24 1992 14:49 | 17 |
| I manage a Digital Software Marketing Group. We too get frustrated by the
inaction of Christ/Stone on the Office Strategy and indeed this was fed
back through Jack Smith a couple of weeks back. We're not so concerned about
the final result; we'd prefer a decision than none at all! Having said that,
we probably haven't got the whole picture to make a judgement call.
Similarly, the amount of engineering $$$ on OSF/1 when all our market
research - from customers and prospects - says that Windows NT will blow it
out of the water. Similarly David Stone's fixation on the role of NT in
our portfolio. Similarly Engineering adding (unwanted) functionality to a
future UNIX Office Product when the rest of us are saying that the priorities
are "time to market" then "V2.0"...
We too are eagerly awaiting the strike of lightning that will bring focus
and meaningful (JP&R) goals right down the organisation... I only hope that
one man can bring this about as quickly as we need it!
- Ian W.
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2125.5 | | TLE::FELDMAN | Larix decidua, var. decify | Fri Sep 25 1992 19:01 | 16 |
| re: .4
Could you please clarify this paragraph:
>Similarly, the amount of engineering $$$ on OSF/1 when all our market
>research - from customers and prospects - says that Windows NT will blow it
>out of the water. Similarly David Stone's fixation on the role of NT in
>our portfolio. Similarly Engineering adding (unwanted) functionality to a
>future UNIX Office Product when the rest of us are saying that the priorities
>are "time to market" then "V2.0"...
Each of these fragments seems to have an implied sentence completion, but I'm
not sure what it is. I'd prefer to have you finish the sentences than for
me to guess.
Gary
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2125.6 | Sentences added - now waiting to be shot down! | IW::WARING | Silicon,*Software*,Services | Sat Sep 26 1992 17:09 | 18 |
| Our market research says that NT will outship any flavour of UNIX by a factor
of minimum 10:1, maximum 50:1. David Stone has a fixation that NT is only
good for being a PC server operating system, and most engineering $$$ is
being channelled into VMS or OSF/1 layered products.
Here in Europe, we have a UNIX based Office System codenamed "Objectworks"
that every major account who've seen it - want it now. It's ready, it's got
servers on ULTRIX, AIX and SunOS, which serve either Windows 3.x or MOTIF
clients. Despite 9 months of sitting on the fence and major local competitors
now coming to market with competitive products, we still have no formal
decision - other than to add functionality to help users dip into an ALL-IN-1
file cabinet. I don't personally know of a single customer that wants this
functionality yet - it can wait!
As a software company, we still have a need to go for volume markets and to
make profit as quickly as we can. Current internal politics are denying us
this opportunity.
- Ian W.
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2125.7 | | TLE::FELDMAN | Larix decidua, var. decify | Mon Sep 28 1992 11:51 | 8 |
| Thanks, now I understand.
I can only hope that our current priorities are strongly influenced by timing,
i. e., the available market for NT will still be less than OpenVMS and OSF during
the rest of FY93, even though NT will overtake the others fairly soon thereafter.
There seems to be a strong sense of urgency about making money in FY93.
Gary
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2125.8 | a far-off and hazy target | LGP30::FLEISCHER | without vision the people perish (381-0899 ZKO3-2/T63) | Mon Sep 28 1992 12:51 | 22 |
| re Note 2125.7 by TLE::FELDMAN:
> I can only hope that our current priorities are strongly influenced by timing,
> i. e., the available market for NT will still be less than OpenVMS and OSF during
> the rest of FY93, even though NT will overtake the others fairly soon thereafter.
Unfortunately, we still don't seem to be able to turn around
software from concept to shipment in under 18 months -- the
more novel and "interesting" software seems to take much
longer.
Thus the software starts that we are undertaking now must aim
at a very ill-defined target: the market and the Digital of
FY95.
In the mean time, we certainly must work to get the most
bucks for our current efforts.
Perhaps we will even learn how to make profit on software in
under 18 months.
Bob
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2125.9 | | SQM::MACDONALD | | Mon Sep 28 1992 13:13 | 18 |
|
Re: .6
> David Stone has a fixation that NT is only good for being a PC
> server operating system, and most engineering $$$ is being channelled
> into VMS or OSF/1 layered products.
A summary I received of a presentation made by Stone last week at
ZKO would disagree with this statement. True many engineering
dollars are being channeled in VMS, OSF/1, UNIX, etc. but not
because NT is being perceived as not important. Our customers have
been demanding more from us with respect to UNIX and in the short
term we have to respond to that. Addressing NT will be a more long term
issue, and is important in that context.
fwiw,
Steve
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2125.10 | At last! | IW::WARING | Silicon,*Software*,Services | Tue Sep 29 1992 07:33 | 14 |
| Re: .9
We documented the likely market(s) share of -NT in June 1991. I'm glad that
someone's showing signs of aligning with our view... but it's still taken
far, far too long.
On running a software business and getting to profit, there are a myriad of
things we do (from a field angle) that would help boost revenue on the
products we have today. Most of my time today is spent bashing against
frustration after frustration in an attempt to change things for the better.
We're getting there slowly. My ambition is to still be here when all the
brakes are released...
- Ian W.
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2125.11 | Time-to-Market must be a First Priority | PCAENG::ILUVVT::COBURN | | Tue Sep 29 1992 10:52 | 16 |
|
As .8 notes, Digital software engineering is a protracted,
agonizing endeavor, generally resulting in products which
have been leap-frogged by the competition, in terms of
market-penetration. I.E., I'd love to get my hands on a
decent, integrated CASE environment for Windows 3.x. Why
don't we have ours there?
But .8 isn't totally correct. There are groups within the
company which are capable of, and have produced software
products in less than 18 months. Even released version 2's
in that amount of time. But it can't be done with the way
most of our groups are currently organized and operated!
Vaughn
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2125.12 | Full scale of horror available on request! | IW::WARING | Silicon,*Software*,Services | Tue Sep 29 1992 12:17 | 3 |
| Selling what we have today is our first priority. That's the piece that's
poorly executed.
- Ian W.
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2125.13 | You have to have something worthwhile first... | COOKIE::WITHERS | Bob Withers - In search of a quiet moment | Tue Sep 29 1992 14:16 | 25 |
| >================================================================================
>Note 2125.11 Digital in Software ? 11 of 12
>PCAENG::ILUVVT::COBURN 16 lines 29-SEP-1992 09:52
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>
This is pure, unadulterated bullcrap and is how we got into this mess.
Microsoft has just announced a delay in WNT so that more features and higher
quality could be availabe - due to market demand! Is anybody upset? No, the
general reaction is that this shows Microsoft's commitment to its customers.
Intel's P5 was recently pushed back a quarter. Same reason. Same reaction.
Yet, yesterday, I composed a memo using DECwrite. Then, I rendered it to text
using the arcane menu structure of DECwrite. I then had to take LSE and clean
up the text output because DECwrite's text output was so badly misformatted
that I would have been ashamed to send it to my three-year old daughter. While
I was doing this, counting lines so my footers would stay in place, I was truly
ashamed of our software products.
Rdb/VMS 3.0, 3.0a, 3.0b, 3.1, 3.1a, 3.1b, 4.0, 4.0a, and 3.0c (if I remember
correctly) all came out reasonably on time.
Sadly,
BobW
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2125.14 | fast junk is still junk | CVG::THOMPSON | Radical Centralist | Tue Sep 29 1992 14:31 | 8 |
| > Time-to-Market must be a First Priority
More important then shipping a product that works? I would agree
that sometimes we spend too much time adding bells and whistles that
could wait until the next release. However, we all to often seem
unconcerned about a product that really works the way we say it will.
Alfred
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2125.15 | | GIAMEM::LEFEBVRE | I brake for tailgaters | Tue Sep 29 1992 16:58 | 7 |
| >Intel's P5 was recently pushed back a quarter. Same reason. Same reaction.
Not entirely. Intel delayed P5 largely due to the huge demand for the
various flavors of the 486. Why should Intel prematurely kill a huge
profit maker?
Mark.
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2125.16 | I'm sure it's there somewhere | MRKTNG::SILVERBERG | Mark Silverberg DTN 264-2269 TTB1-5/B3 | Wed Sep 30 1992 15:26 | 16 |
| I was in a customer visit today where one of the DEC folks told the
customer about the "new" businesses Digital is in (the new business
model):
- Microprocesors
- Commodity Products
- Multi-Vendor System integration and support
- Industry Applications
Nowhere did the terms "Digital is in the software business" or
anything remotely close, enter into the almost 1-hour presentation.
Interesting.
Mark
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2125.17 | it's in there | LGP30::FLEISCHER | without vision the people perish (381-0899 ZKO3-2/T63) | Wed Sep 30 1992 18:40 | 7 |
| re Note 2125.16 by MRKTNG::SILVERBERG:
Well, in his DVN talk today, Bob Palmer made it clear that
our competencies were software, services, networking, and
silicon.
Bob
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2125.18 | Ask the account mgr, not this conference.. | GUCCI::HERB | Al is the *first* name | Thu Oct 01 1992 00:10 | 7 |
| Re. :16
Mark: Did you think of asking the account person that did the
presentation why he/she "left something out"? I doubt this conference
knows any more than that person.
Team: T*E*A*M (everyone working towards a common goal?)
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2125.19 | | PLAYER::BROWNL | with key in hand | Thu Oct 01 1992 07:13 | 8 |
| RE: <<< Note 2125.15 by GIAMEM::LEFEBVRE "I brake for tailgaters" >>>
� Why should Intel prematurely kill a huge
� profit maker?
Can you say "PDP"?
Laurie.
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2125.20 | | ASICS::LESLIE | Hey, Bob a job? | Thu Oct 01 1992 08:31 | 1 |
| We still haven't killed the PDP.
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2125.21 | | PLAYER::BROWNL | with key in hand | Thu Oct 01 1992 11:44 | 3 |
| Not for the want of trying though...
Laurie.
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2125.22 | | PCAENG::ILUVVT::COBURN | | Thu Oct 01 1992 13:52 | 27 |
|
re: .13, .14
Now that I've been stomped all over, I feel better.
Sorry for the use of that 'Time-to-Market' phrase. It
is a rather meaningless phrase.
My concern is our inability to ship quality software
products which are competitive with our competitor's
offerings. To me, this implies time-critical issues,
as well as functional issues. Microsoft Windows has
had many releases over the years, as has MS-DOS. By
'our' standards, I would not consider those products
'functionally' rich. Yet, Microsoft is laughing all
the way to the bank. And yes, they give the customers
what they ask for, not much more.
I think we really need to revamp how we do things, and
when. I know we have the talent. But if we can't
get competitive products out the door, and even are
ashamed of what we get out the door, maybe Mr. Palmer
should consider removing the 'software' from his list
of core competencies.
Vaughn
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2125.23 | | WHOS01::BOWERS | Dave Bowers @WHO | Thu Oct 01 1992 14:46 | 6 |
| >> And yes, they give the customers what they ask for, not much more.
Could it be that the "much more" we pride ourselves on is of little or
no value to real cutomers?
\dave
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2125.24 | Problem is a 2nd-order effect of a larger one | SMOP::GLOSSOP | Kent Glossop | Thu Oct 01 1992 16:55 | 64 |
| > As .8 notes, Digital software engineering is a protracted,
> agonizing endeavor, generally resulting in products which
> have been leap-frogged by the competition, in terms of
> market-penetration. I.E., I'd love to get my hands on a
> decent, integrated CASE environment for Windows 3.x. Why
> don't we have ours there?
As long as hardware was/is going for margins rather than market penetration,
our software is going to continue to lag. There's simply no way you can
afford the same level of resources for software development to ship 1,000
or 10,000 units as 1,000,000. Add to this that we have had constant flux
of strategic direction since 2 years before PRISM was cancelled, and our
current situation is perfectly predictable.
CASE is a particularly good example:
- Developed some relatively good V1 "back end" tools ~1984/5
(LSE/SCA/PCA/screen mode debug). Maybe not strictly leadership,
but they were at least competitive at the time.
- Invested in UIS interfaces - redirected to XUI, then Motif
- Invested in some ramp-up in porting to U*x. Response: "we don't
want 'proprietary' tools". Only VAX FORTRAN/Ultrix delivered.
- Invested in PRISM, redirected at least twice, cancelled - no ROI
at all, though some work was salvaged
- CASE shifted some investment toward non-"back end" case, but given
the overall strategy, the software investment was primarily limited
to DEC hardware, which placed a bound on penetration/competitiveness
- Invested in MIPS: FORTRAN, Ada, Bliss, some of DECset delivered,
products are ramping down (at least in practise)
- Started investing in PCs
- Invested in 3 different operating systems for Alpha (so far - and
the systems haven't even shipped yet...)
Using the existing VAX+MIPS bases for sizing, we currently have a FAR
smaller installed base than PCs, and we have a LOT of different platforms
that we're doing software development for (including Alpha-VMS/OSF/NT).
That dilutes both our own software investment, and 3rd parties' willingness
to port to any individual one of the platforms. (Note that companies
persuing a single software strategy maximize their software investment,
even if the underlying hardware platforms sometimes change, since the
software being used is basically the same. Contrast that with DEC with
a hardware-driven strategy with several operating systems on multiple
hardware platforms, moving over time to a single hardware platform.)
During the last 8 years, not a single year has gone by without a
"strategic redirection for long-term efforts". Our current situation
in at least some areas of software *DIRECTLY* reflects this lack of
long-term focus. This has put us in a situation from a software
perspective that is at a MAJOR disadvantage compared to: Sun, Apple,
Microsoft/Intel, NeXT and even HP, all of which are persuing a SINGLE
long-term software base platform. Even if Alpha becomes the primary
corporate hardware platform - in addition to Intel-based systems -
we will still have 3 distinct software "platforms" with 2 incompatible
UIs (Windows/Motif) compared to the major competitors I listed that
are focusing on one.
Anyway, this probably belongs in the MARKETING conference...
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2125.25 | "software" is too broad | LGP30::FLEISCHER | without vision the people perish (381-0899 ZKO3-2/T63) | Thu Oct 01 1992 18:19 | 19 |
| re Note 2125.22 by PCAENG::ILUVVT::COBURN:
> maybe Mr. Palmer
> should consider removing the 'software' from his list
> of core competencies.
Well, "software" is indeed too broad to be a "core
competency".
Notice we don't have "hardware" on the list, instead we do
have the far more specific "silicon" (and Palmer made it
clear that this meant microprocessors, not silicon in
general).
So I think that "software" in the list really needs to be
replaced with the specific types of software that we will
compete with. Probably the same thing applies to "services".
Bob
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2125.26 | SOFTWARE ENGINEERING COMMUNICATIONS | UTRTSC::SCHOLLAERT | AJAX beats Feyenoord again and again | Thu Nov 19 1992 06:12 | 560 |
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November 18, 1992, Attached
November 23-27, 1992, Next Communication
Given the changes occuring within Digital, it is more important than ever that
our customers know that Digital will continue to support their needs under the
new, lean Digital organization. Software Engineering will support the field
and drive the process of creating and relaying this message to our customers.
In a series of communications, we will deliver to you one unified message
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Workgroup Systems. Engineering, marketing and the field have been investing in
the products and infrastructure to aggressively pursue workgroup computing,
and we are committed to continuing that investment and establishing leadership
market position.
Some of our current products may be de-emphasized; these are difficult
decisions that are being evaluated right now. Our focus on the Workgroup
Systems Business, on providing the core framework for building Workgroup
Systems, is being strengthened. We are committed to supporting the Customer
Business Units in their pursuit of this lucrative market. Where Digital will
not have product in this space, we will continue to align with partners to
meet customers needs, distribute other people's products as appropriate, and
use systems integration to deliver the best multi-vendor workgroup systems to
our customers.
You should continue to sell our Workgroup Systems product family, and know
that our product strategy will enhance these with focus on information
sharing, messaging, workflow, document management, and imaging. We will
continue to communicate to you on a regular basis as changes are implemented.
The ENTRY-LEVEL PRODUCTION SYSTEMS GROUP, Appledorn, The Netherlands, will
continue to support the full strength of our offering of fully integrated
networked solutions for the commercial applications environment.
The emphasis will continue to be in the areas of:
- Client-server solution platforms of networking and systems management
software for SCO-UNIX servers and MS-Windows clients with emphasis on the
functionality required by distributed organizations such as retail banks
and for the SME market. The platform solution package is marketed under
the name DECadvantage.
- Document management/imaging and workflow solutions
- MS-Windows desktop organizer and userfriendly application integration
In light of the renewed corporate strategy we will continue to evolve the
functionality as described above towards use in a distributed environment
based upon NT. Appropriate migration and implementation products will be
put in place in order to serve the specialized market channels which are
depending on these Open Systems solutions.
In light of the refocusing of corporate strategic focus and Digital's
current condition, a number of current products will be transitioned out
of SOFTWARE DEVELOPMENT TECHNOLOGIES (SDT). There is an ongoing decision
process on the future engineering and support of these products. Options
under evaluation include transition to an existing or new third party,
and transition to a Digital organization(s) other than central
engineering.
Through-out this transition, SDT remains committed to providing the key
components of COHESION and in supporting vital programs such as the CASE
Partners program.
In addition, SDT's primary goal during the transition is continuity of
customer commitments. This means no interruption in service to our
customers in terms of product availability, and product support. As a
result, the movement of products will be transparent to our customers and
need not be discussed with customers unless the customer raises the
topic.
Our request of you is to continue to sell any and all of Digital's
software products wherever they meet your customer's needs. We will keep
you informed as more details become available.
As Digital continues to re-evaluate its priorities and refocus its resources,
we want to assure you and our customers that we remain 100% committed to the
products represented within the CORPORATE INFORMATION SYSTEMS arena. In fact,
the more narrow product focus that Digital will pursue will have the effect
of INCREASED focus in the CIS domain. All of our key strategies in this space
will be carried forward:
- We will continue our focus on ACMS as a premier transaction
processing facility. We will maintain and enhance our leadership
in desktop client support for ACMS and in interoperability. Our
plans to introduce an NT client coincident with Microsoft's
announcement of NT remain unchanged. Our plans to introduce a
graphical development workbench for ACMS in early 1993 remain in
place. And our plans to expand ACMS to Alpha, OSF and NT, and to
support open TP standards will be carried forward with renewed
vigor. In addition, our plans for DECADMIRE, a production-class
application code generator for ACMS and non-ACMS enviroments that
has enjoyed an enthusiastic customer and field response since its
introduction in August, will continue, unabated.
- We have an aggressive development underway in the FORMS area which
we intend to maintain. The Forms set of products, led by our
flagship DECforms products, continues to be one of the highest
revenue and profit generators among Digital's software products.
Products for Alpha, OSF, and PC clients will continue as part of
our 1993 development plans.
- Digital has a unique and leadership technology for truly distributed
fault tolerant computing in a product called RTR (Reliable Transaction
Router). RTR development will continue and will be enhanced
in order to capitalize on the unique opportunity which this
technology provides.
- Our investment in MUMPS technology will continue with great
enthusiasm, as we enhance our leadership position in the
MUMPS market. Like the Forms products, Digital's MUMPS products
(DSM) continue to be one of the highest profit generators among
Digital's software products. We will continue to expand our MUMPS
technology offerings in 1993. We will begin shipping DSM for
OpenVMS AXP early in 1993, being the first MUMPS product on the
Alpha AXP platform. Our plans to port DSM to the OSF/1 platform are
underway. We are moving forward with our plans for a client/server
DSM implementation beginning with a PC client.
The CONCURRENT ENGINEERING/CALS BUSINESS UNIT will continue to address the
following key issues and areas:
o Our customers must be able to change rapidly, maintain product
quality, and shorten design cycles to be competitive in
today's market.
o The EDCS/STEP/EXPRESS product sets manage data related to
product development and are deemed strategic agents for our
customer's and Digital's mutual success.
o Our service organization provides the knowledge and expertise
to implement these agents and the specific changes required to
be competitive in today's environment.
Within the PC APPLICATIONS -- DEVELOPER SUPPORT AND DISTRIBUTION area, the
emphasis is on improved service and greater efficiency. As Digital Equipment
Corporation has been re-evaluating its corporate strategic focus, working
partnerships with third party software providers has been an important part of
our recent strategy. This is likely to become increasingly so in the future.
However, we fully expect that there will be consolidation and internal
re-structuring of some of the myriad third party developer support activities
with an aim towards improved service and improved efficiency.
In the interim period there is a clear committment to continuity in our
committments to both customers and to third party partners. The large number
of PC Applications from third parties will continue to be available via Digital
channels. Digital will continue to expand our offerings in the U.S. through
our recently acquired subsidiary, 800-Software, Inc. Program activities to
provide similar capabilities on a worldwide basis are also planned to
continue.
The PC Developer Support Program, which has championed the use of PATHWORKS
over the past few years, also is planned to continue. As part of the
consolidation process it is likely to go beyond just PATHWORKS and provide
support for a variety of emerging Digital APIs and technologies such as
NT/Alpha-AXP.
Our request of you is that you continue to actively sell any and all of the
software products that we distribute, both Digital-built and Third Party-
provided. Your customers should be assured that we are committed to meet their
PC application needs.
Digital has re-evaluated its strategic focus, and is moving
quickly to re-gain our leadership in the market. This means change, in our
organizations and in our product strategy. All of these changes are aimed at
securing a strong future for our company and for our customers. These new
areas of focus are in the most exciting parts of the growth area of our
industry and represent great opportunity for all of us. Software
engineering is committed to delivering the information necessary to
assist you in answering questions from our customers.
*** NEXT COMMUNICATION FROM SOFTWARE ENGINEERING -- FRIDAY, NOVEMBER 23-27 ***
CONTACT INFORMATION --- FOR QUESTIONS FROM THE FIELD
Software Engineering Public Directory
-------------------------------------
Overview SLIDE, "Digital's Software Strategy", .PS file - copy from
$ copy ssgv01::disk$user11:[osc$public]SOFTWARE_STRATEGY_SLIDE.PS *
This message and future SOFTWARE ENGINEERING COMMUNICATIONS will be
stored in this directory, as well.
Software Development Technologies
---------------------------------
If you have questions, please contact the CASE Partner in your area.
If you do not know who your CASE Partner is or need additional information,
feel free to contact Van Smick (SDTMKT:: or @ZKO).
For Press inquiries, contact: SSGV01::PUGLIANO, LINDA PUGLIANO @ZKO,
DTN 381-0811.
Concurrent Engineering/CALS Business Unit
-----------------------------------------
Vern Poulter, DTN 297-2071, CALS::POULTER, VERN POULTER @MRO
NAS Integrated Products and Program
------------------------------------------
If you have more questions about the status of the NAS
program, please contact your local NAS Partner. If you do not
know who your local NAS partner is please contact Bruce Dishman
(DTN 264-5184 or MRKTNG::DISHMAN). If you have questions that
the NAS Partners cannot answer please contact Rick Forberg (DTN
264-0896 or MRKTNG::FORBERG), Dennis Phelan (DTN 264-2030 of
MRKTNG::PHELAN), or Craig Jones (381-1220 or NASZKO::JONES).
Office Products
---------------
For questions from Digital employees (sales, sales support, etc.) and
customers, please direct the person to the following for the products
noted:
Product Contact Telephone Node
ALL-IN-1/ Steve Martin DTN: 264-1817 MRKTNG::MARTIN
TeamLinks EXTL: (603)884-1817
Mail Audrey Augun DTN: 381-0491 A1VAX::AUGUN
EXTL: (603)881-0491
DECquery/ Howard Dresner DTN: 264-0522 MRKTNG::DRESNER
DECreport EXTL: (603)884-0522
VTX/VaxNotes Ken Walker DTN: 264-3711 MRKTNG::WALKER_K
EXTL: (603)884-3711
Teamdata/ Steve Martin DTN: 264-1817 MRKTNG::MARTIN
DECdecision EXTL: (603)884-1817
DECwrite Bob Lehmenkuler DTN: 264-2060 MRKTNG::LEHMENKULER
EXTL: (603)884-2060
DECpresent Lindsay MacFarlane DTN: 381-2248 EPIK::MACFARLANE
EXTL: (603)881-2248
WPS+ Cathy St. Martin DTN: 264-5304 MRKTNG::STMARTIN
EXTL: (603)884-5304
For any questions from consultants, analysts or the press for any of our
products please refer them to:
Ken McDonnell DTN: 264-3765 EXTL: (603)884-3765
PC Applications
---------------
PC Applications Group -- Developer Support and Distribution
MAIL ACCOUNT to which the field can direct questions.
To be monitored daily and responded to by one of the managers
in the group. Includes 3rd party ISV and PCAE DEC-built applications.
From VAXMAIL --- CREATV::PCAPPS
From All-In-1 --- PCAPPS @LTN
GIA Software Business Group
----------------------------
David Hughes @AKO or HUGHES::AKOCOA.
International Systems Engineering (ISE)
---------------------------------------
If you have any questions concerning the status of a localization
effort for a particular product, please contact one of the following
people, depending on your geography:
Name Location Node Telephone (DTN)
==== ======== ==== ===============
Mimi Chen Hong Kong HGRD01::MChen 662-2375
Yoshinori Ishii Japan JRDV04::Ishii 686-5356
Jean-Jacques Creux Valbonne Ulysse::Creux 828-5435
Aharon Goldman Israel Taveng::Goldman 882-3236
Sonja Israel US Akocoa::Israel 244-6238
Mohammed Siddiqui US Akocoa::MSiddiqui 244-6401
Tony Viola US Akocoa::AViola 244-6405
John Bruce US Akocoa::JBruce 244-6270
Alternatively, you can send a note to AKOCOA::Hotline
*** Please note: requests for information about the company and its employees
received from newspapers, television, radio, industry publications,
magazines and local community officials must be directed to Corporate
Public Relations. Please direct all media contacts to Chuck Malkiel,
Public/Analyst Relations Manager, DTN 381-0684.
If you have read the list of contacts and cannot find the appropriate
person, call Pat Carney, Sales & Customer Communications Manager,
DTN 381-0438.
From: BUFFER::KEILLOR "13-Nov-1992 2135" 13-NOV-1992 21:44:03.36
To: @SAK_STAFF,@DIST
CC: KEILLOR
Subj: COMMUNICATIONS FROM SOFTWARE ENGINEERING
FROM: Sharon A. Keillor
TO: Digital Sales Force, Internal Partners Program members,
Geography Managers
DATE: November 13, 1992
COMMUNICATIONS FROM SOFTWARE ENGINEERING
As you know, many changes are underway within Digital. Like you, I want to
be informed as to what the changes are and their impact.
Over the next few days you will be receiving a number of communications
from me that will assist in supporting our field people who deal with
customer questions and concerns. Work is in process in many of these areas
and results will be communicated to you as they become available. The schedule
for these communications is as follows:
o by Monday, November 16 -- Initial statements of direction from
all Software Engineering Expertise Centers
o by the end of November -- Statements of direction from the Expertise
Centers, areas of investment, plans, and support requirements
o Future -- Dissemination of all Bill Strecker and Dennis Roberson
statements relating to the sofware product portfolio and its
support for company-wide initiatives.
It is imperative and for the good of Digital, that you support our efforts
in stopping the distribution of any unfocused, misleading, possibly incorrect
information. I will do my best to support your need for timely, accurate
information on the future of our software products and services.
While it is true that engineering is evaluating and trying to provide clarity
and focus around products that meet customer needs, it is important that you
do not make statements based on non-verified information. You should use this
office to verify the accuracy of information that you receive.
Digital has both an intention and an obligation to stand behind its products.
To that end, we will continue to provide customers with support and service.
Our present focus should be on meeting customer needs using current products
and on supporting the previously-stated company directions.
Please distribute this message widely.
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2125.27 | | GENIE::MORRIS | | Thu Nov 19 1992 08:43 | 22 |
| I really can't remember when I have read an official Digital
communication that used so many words to say so little.
I think what everybody is asking for, is simplicity and clarity.
The communication did not achieve that. Talking about
intent,comittement,gestures of faith,hopes etc when asked directly
whats happening ? is as good as as saying we don't know yet.
Perhaps it was best assumed but not confirmed.
This is not a negative criticism of Software Engineering, I am sure,
above all others, they to wish to know the detail behind the
words.
We need data,facts,decisions,clarity.. In that way we may all serve
Digital in a clear,concise,consistent manner... With that comes
credibility. With credibilty we have again, a chance, but not a right
for success.
Chris
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2125.28 | Babble, babble, babble | CGOOA::DTHOMPSON | Don, of Don's ACT | Thu Nov 19 1992 15:19 | 17 |
| re: .27 Right on!!
re: .26 A precis... "Look, look, look. Look at me.
Boss, Boss Boss. Look at me!
I am doing 'right things'.
Right things, boss. Right things.
But I don't do any actual things.
Make me a VP!!"
Sorry for the sarcasm, but... which products will live,
which will die. What were the criteria in SIMPLE ENGLISH?
Who do we kiss/kill for the decisions?
Sorry, but amount of communications = volume of large words.
NOT!!
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2125.29 | How's that for succinct?? | GUIDUK::EVANS_BR | Bruce Evans, CASE Consultant | Thu Nov 19 1992 18:43 | 4 |
| Too bad Sharon Keillor won't get the "short is sweet" or KISS
message...
Bruce
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2125.30 | What dies ?! | MSDOA::SECRIST | RETE & Roll ! | Thu Nov 19 1992 23:48 | 6 |
|
So are they going to toast a bunch of software or what ?
Regards,
rcs
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2125.31 | The floggings will continue... | STAR::DIPIRRO | | Fri Nov 20 1992 11:25 | 8 |
| It's probably not appropriate to name projects here. However, it
looks like approximately 20% of software engineering will be gone on
December 7th. Kind of an interesting way to break into the software
world. In some areas, actual work is going away. In others, the work
remains. In fact, we're being asked to do even more work after they
hack away at us. Not to worry though... Engineering is going to be fun
again starting next year. I can hardly wait...assuming I'm here to
party with everyone.
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2125.32 | Work, I tell you, Work! | CORPRL::RALTO | It's all part of the show! | Fri Nov 20 1992 13:16 | 20 |
| >> In fact, we're being asked to do even more work after they
>> hack away at us
When I read the above line, for some reason the following line
from an old "Star Trek" episode popped into my head:
"No doubt you will reassemble after I have hacked you to bits!"
- A Famous Klingon Manager, I mean Commander
As for the Software News Tome, I stopped reading it less than
halfway through, in fact probably less than a quarter of the way
through. I couldn't stand it anymore. And it's my own organization.
For all I know, my name is in there on a "chop" list. :-)
Well, let 'em tell me in twenty-five words or less...
Chris
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2125.33 | things are getting better | UTRTSC::SCHOLLAERT | Jan | Mon Jul 31 1995 07:49 | 209 |
| Hi,
Almost two years ago I started this string about digitals (lack of)
software stategy, especially in the Messaging/Office/Workgroup area.
Looks like things start to change.
Hereby BP's announcement of a seperate Software Business Group
and the announcement of ONE Mail server.
Regards,
Jan
================================================================================
Software Business Group Announcement
In today's competitive computer market the need for a strong software
focus is paramount. To address this priority the Software Business
Group, previously part of the SBU, will become a separate business
group within CSD reporting directly to me.
Bill Strecker has agreed to be the acting head of the Software
Business Group reporting to me. He will continue to advance the
excellent work initiated over the past year by Bill Demmer and his
strong software management team as they collectively work toward the
rollout of our software strategy.
Bill Strecker has been the company's most visible advocate of a strong
software presence for Digital. His experience and knowledge will
add value to the work of this group. Bill will continue in
his role as Digital's Chief Technical Officer and head of Digital's
Advanced Technology Group reporting to Bob Palmer.
I appreciate Bill taking on this added role and look forward to
his participation as a member of the CSD staff and the important work
of the software team.
================================================================================
Digital's Electronic Mail and Office Products Strategy
Steve Jenkins Meg Lustig
Vice President, Director,
Commercial Software Products Segment Enterprise Groupware Products
Summary
-------
For the past 15 years Digital has provided leadership products for electronic
mail and integrated office systems. In that time Digital has successfully
delivered and implemented reliable and scalable enterprise messaging systems
for thousands of customers world-wide, providing over 7,000,000 mailbox
connections. Digital's record of delivering dependable electronic mail products
is undisputed. The technology used in these products is modern, complies with
international standards, and is based on true client/server implementations.
Digital currently offers several electronic mail products, each of which is
designed to meet different requirements. The MailWorks products (on OpenVMS
and UNIX) are designed as high-throughput electronic mail servers offering a
range of PC (TeamLinks, Lotus cc:Mail, and Microsoft Mail) as well as
traditional (VT and workstation) clients. ALL-IN-1 (for OpenVMS) offers
massively scalable mail server capabilities along with additional
functionality in terms of a suite of workgroup applications, enhanced
electronic messaging, a distributed, networked, and shareable file cabinet and
well-integrated system management. Each of these servers share a common
messaging backbone in the MAILbus product set.
Digital has decided that the next generation of office servers will be built as
a single integrated product for multiple platforms and will offer a graceful
evolution from today's ALL-IN-1 and MailWorks base. A single server,
codenamed "OfficeServer", is being designed and built to operate on multiple
platforms, serving Digital's own clients as well as many of the industry's
leading desktop electronic mail applications. The OfficeServer platforms are:
* OpenVMS (Alpha)
* Digital UNIX (Alpha)
* Windows NT (Intel and Alpha)
Clients include:
* TeamLinks for Windows, Windows 95, Windows NT, OS/2, and Apple Macintosh
* Microsoft Mail
* Microsoft Windows 95 and NT client
* Lotus cc:Mail
* Lotus Notes
* Motif
The target market for the new server is the customer who needs to go beyond a
LAN mail solution to a large scale enterprise mail/messaging solution. Most
of these target customers are struggling to sort out how to control the
proliferation of different mail clients and servers. The OfficeServer is
designed to extend the customer's existing capabilities by immediately
allowing existing mail clients the ability to use our mail services as well
continuing to be able to correspond with (send/receive mail) from non-Digital
mail servers.
The OfficeServer will have MAPI (Microsoft's Messaging Application Programming
interface) support built in. This means that a MAPI compliant client or
desktop application will be able to connect to any OfficeServer and utilize
the full range of services available to clients.
Page: 1
Revision: 1.0 Date: 14-Jul-1995
Digital's Electronic Mail and Office Products Strategy
In designing and building the OfficeServer Digital is utilizing the many years
of experience embodied in our current products. Parts of the technology base
will be used as a platform for the new server and all of the existing features
and functionality that have proven popular with our customer base will be
preserved. In addition, many new innovative capabilities necessary to achieve
leadership in today's market place will be built into the OfficeServer.
OfficeServer will ship on Windows NT first, followed by an OpenVMS release
shortly afterwards and then a UNIX version shortly after that. When
OfficeServer is available, existing ALL-IN-1 and MailWorks customers will have
an option to move to OfficeServer or continue using their current product. A
comprehensive set of migration tools will be provided to existing ALL-IN-1 and
MailWorks customers who want to move to OfficeServer. Those who want to stay
with the current ALL-IN-1 and MailWorks servers(2) may do so, as these
products will be maintained over the long term.
Customer Benefits
-----------------
Customers will benefit from the OfficeServer program by:
* Being able to upgrade existing different Digital and non-Digital messaging
systems to a single, unified environment available on the platform of their
choice.
* Being able to upgrade LAN-based PC mail systems that have outgrown their
capabilities.
* Being able to plan for growth from workgroup level systems serving tens
of users up to campus-wide clusters serving thousands of users, and all
based on a single integrated architecture.
* Being able to establish a reliable, secure, and scalable messaging
backbone, one capable of delivering messages world-wide within minutes
rather than hours.
* Protecting existing customer investment in Digital messaging systems by
offering a graceful evolution to OfficeServer.
* Complying with the important international and de facto messaging standards
and interfaces and be able to integrate desktop applications of choice
without worrying about interoperability with the enterprise messaging
system
OfficeServer delivers on Digital's commitment to provide enterprise-quality
messaging systems to our customers and partners.
Features and Capabilities of OfficeServer
-----------------------------------------
The major subsystems of the OfficeServer are:
* Mail Server, a full X.400 (1992) compliant server that also supports
MAPI, allowing a wide range of clients. The mail server also supports
Internet access with SMTP, MIME, and POP functionality.
* File Cabinet Server, allows users to share information on a personal,
group, or public basis. The File Cabinet Server is able to manage any type of
information (file format) generated in the form of documents or messages(1)
* X.500 Directory Services.
* Personal Services including nicknames (personal address book) and
distribution lists.
In addition to out-of-the-box functionality the OfficeServer will be created on
a set of callable interfaces designed to allow easy integration. The overall
goal is to create the most robust, reliable, and scalable mail server in the
industry, offering customers the lowest cost of ownership in the industry.
Channel-readiness
-----------------
OfficeServers will be designed to be channel-ready. The installation goal is
to have the server up and running in many customer environments in under five
minutes. Digital business partners, VARs, and resellers will be equipped to
support OfficeServer when the products are introduced, and Digital SI and MCS
organizations will be ready to provide the same level of consulting and support
for OfficeServer as available for ALL-IN-1 and MailWorks today.
Ease of management
------------------
A separate Windows-based management utility will be used to manage one or more
systems. All user account and profile management, system housekeeping, and
setup and maintenance of the mail and file cabinet servers can be carried out
through the management utility.
Unified messaging environment
-----------------------------
OfficeServer will use Digital's MAILbus 400 as its messaging backbone, and
Digital X.500 for shared directory services. MAILbus 400 allows all
OfficeServer systems to dispatch and receive messages between each other as
well as other systems via a wide range of gateways such as SNADS, SMTP, and
PROFS. ALL-IN-1 and MailWorks systems using the Message Router technology can
communicate with MAILbus 400 via the Message Router XMR gateway. All
OfficeServer users are registered in the X.500 directory and entries can be
queried and viewed from any client.
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2125.34 | EP | HDLITE::SCHNEIDER | whatever # of VPs it takes | Mon Jul 31 1995 08:49 | 5 |
| A nit, perhaps: the announcement of the Software Business Group comes
from Enrico Pesatori. (.33 said "BP's announcement")
Cheers,
Chuck
|
2125.35 | it sounded like Bob... | UTRTSC::SCHOLLAERT | Jan | Mon Jul 31 1995 08:56 | 12 |
|
>A nit, perhaps: the announcement of the Software Business Group comes
>from Enrico Pesatori. (.33 said "BP's announcement")
When I receive these kinds of announcements, they have been
edited / forwarded / compiled a zillion times, so I
had to make a guess about the author.
Regards,
Jan
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2125.36 | | MBALDY::LANGSTON | our middle name is 'Equipment' | Fri Aug 04 1995 18:51 | 14 |
| re:
� ...The OfficeServer platforms are:
�
�* OpenVMS (Alpha)
�* Digital UNIX (Alpha)
�* Windows NT (Intel and Alpha)
Why are we limiting the server market into which this product can be sold?
I don't believe that we're serious about a software business with an
announcement liek this. How about the top three UNIX vendors' platforms,
where (I'm guessing) 60% of the sales go?
Bruce
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2125.37 | | BBRDGE::LOVELL | � l'eau; c'est l'heure | Fri Aug 04 1995 19:24 | 14 |
| I agree about the "not serious" comment. As a recent field
practitioner I was asked for marketing input prior to this
announcement and I specifically discussed the multiple-UNIX platform
issue. The point does not seem to have got through.
Add to this the poor manner in which the organization has been
announced and the potential for conflict (with our new partner
Microsoft) of our first declared product family
on our first declared OS (WNT) and I reckon its looking shaky.
I would dearly love to be proved wrong on this and have asked
Bob Palmer in 4031.6 to clarify it for us.
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2125.38 | Strategy (Ex)changed | UTRTSC::SCHOLLAERT | OfficeServer: graceful evolution | Mon Sep 04 1995 08:50 | 18 |
|
> Add to this the poor manner in which the organization has been
> announced and the potential for conflict (with our new partner
> Microsoft) of our first declared product family
> on our first declared OS (WNT) and I reckon its looking shaky.
This problem has been solved. Officeserver on NT is replaced by
Exchange.
The strategy history lookes like
31-JUL-1995 : Announcement: OfficeServer (will ship on Windows NT first)
9-AUG-1995 : Clarification : one product / full range (OVMS, NT, and Unix)
30-AUG-1995 : Update : OfficeServer OpenVMS and Digital UNIX . NT : Exchange
Now I understand why we MCS support specialists are send you
a Change Forum program. No one can cope we this speed of change
without proper training.
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