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| 2094.1 | | COOKIE::EGGERS | Anybody can fly with an engine. | Wed Sep 09 1992 20:07 | 3 |
| I strongly suspect the National Rifle Assciation will be offended,
unless you tell us you intended NRA to stand for something else, like
National Retirees Association.
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| 2094.2 | whjat are the real stages? | VINO::TBOYLE | | Thu Sep 10 1992 02:05 | 7 |
| could someone post the documented stages rather than the joke in .0
I've been thinking about this recently and don't remember the stages
there are 5 I think which starts with denial and ends with
acceptance
Tom
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| 2094.3 | Grow Up | JUPITR::HILDEBRANT | I'm the NRA | Thu Sep 10 1992 09:02 | 7 |
| Item number 10...NRA was a stupid joke. The idea that those that join
the NRA do so to shoot people/violent types smacks of the typical
knee-jerk reactions the media has to the NRA.
Learn about the organization before you start making stupid comments.
Marc H.
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| 2094.4 | not overly offended, just question basenoter's intentions | STOKES::BURT | | Thu Sep 10 1992 09:05 | 7 |
| seeing as how I'm the NRA, I'm guessing that .0's joke means when this
DEC experience finally hits me and I progress through the stages
(whether real ones or joked ones), I'm ready to take up arms against
my fellow man for no good reason? Thanks, and I'm sure 3 million other
Americans feel the same way- NOT!
Reg.
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| 2094.5 | Violence has many masks | OAXCEL::DOYLE | It's a long distance to Camino Real | Thu Sep 10 1992 09:30 | 18 |
| RE:
<<< Note 2094.3 by JUPITR::HILDEBRANT "I'm the NRA" >>>
-< Grow Up >-
� Learn about the organization before you start making stupid comments.
Well, I'm trying. I read recently about one of your lobbyists. I
don't remember his name, but I sure do remember what he said.
Anent NRA efforts towards getting the New Jersey gun control law
repealed:
"We killed Florio." And that's a direct quote.
By their metaphors and images ye shall know them.
Popeye
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| 2094.6 | | JUPITR::HILDEBRANT | I'm the NRA | Thu Sep 10 1992 09:59 | 14 |
| RE: .5
Popeye, my comments still stand. You are stereotyping a lot of good,
decent people who's only "fault", in your eyes, is that they enjoy
shooting.
This isn't the best place to continue the discussion, read some info,
get the NRA mag. "american rifleman"....if you want a copy, let
me know. In short, learn about the organization before you spout
out the usual media crap.
I'm done....
Marc H.
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| 2094.7 | | VERGA::WELLCOME | Steve Wellcome PKO3-1/D30 | Thu Sep 10 1992 10:08 | 10 |
| Re: .5
I am also a member of the NRA. I was a member of my college rifle team.
To me, a firearm is something to punch holes in paper with.
The NRA conducts countless training sessions to teach firearm safety.
They give hunter safety courses. They have courses for law enforcement
personnel. They help train the members of the olympic shooting team.
And on and on. To me, *THAT* is the NRA.
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| 2094.8 | | SCAACT::AINSLEY | Less than 150 kts is TOO slow | Thu Sep 10 1992 10:12 | 3 |
| The NRA discussion is inappropriate for this conference. Please stop.
Bob - Co-moderator DIGITAL
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| 2094.9 | Some real ones... | WMOIS::MACK_J | | Thu Sep 10 1992 13:13 | 15 |
| RE: .2
I believe the (real) stages go something like,
Denial
Anger
Depression
Acceptance
Growth
or something like that. Not sure though but at least
that's some of them that I recall from some class or
the other.
-- J --
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| 2094.10 | DABDA | WR1FOR::BOYNTON_CA | | Thu Sep 10 1992 13:21 | 17 |
| What is appropriate is the five stages of reaction to a trauma...like
being TFSO'd!
My S.O., the nurse says it's DABDA.
Now if I can just remember what DABDA means!
From memory:
Denial...this can't be happening
Anger...why is this happening to me?
Bargaining...I promise I'll do thus-and-so if you'll save me from this
Depression...my life will never be the same
Acceptance...time to get on with it, whatever it is!
Corrections?
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| 2094.11 | Palindrome | TRADE::SHAPIRO | Steve - Will consult for food! | Thu Sep 10 1992 15:32 | 19 |
| <<< Note 2094.10 by WR1FOR::BOYNTON_CA >>>
-< DABDA >-
>> From memory:
>>
>> Denial...this can't be happening
>> Anger...why is this happening to me?
>> Bargaining...I promise I'll do thus-and-so if you'll save me from this
>> Depression...my life will never be the same
>> Acceptance...time to get on with it, whatever it is!
>>
>> Corrections?
Hmmm, it's been about 14 years since my psych class, but I seem to remember it
as ANGER then DENIAL (I remembered that it is a palindrome: ADBDA).
Regards,
Steve.
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| 2094.12 | I thought Anger was first | VINO::MCARLETON | Reality; what a concept! | Thu Sep 10 1992 15:39 | 22 |
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> Corrections?
I had the same 5 phases in mind by my order is different.
Anger
Denial
Bargaining
Depression
Acceptance
These come from Elizabeth Kubera Ross's book "On Death and Dieing" if
anyone want's to look it up.
Whenever I have a major loss, I try to figure out what phase I'm in
so that I can try to facilitate it and move on to the next phase.
I think most people around here are between the Bargaining and
Depression phases at this point. We might start over if and when
we finally take our hit.
MJC
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| 2094.13 | OK, you can write-lock it now | SHALOT::ANDERSON | I'm the Cultural Elite | Thu Sep 10 1992 16:00 | 1 |
| Hey, what's an assault rifle for anyway, huh?
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| 2094.14 | | JUPITR::HILDEBRANT | I'm the NRA | Thu Sep 10 1992 16:16 | 5 |
| RE: .13
Seems like the mods should remove this reply.
Marc H.
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| 2094.15 | are we comparing apples and oranges in here? | STAR::ABBASI | Spell checking is a family value | Thu Sep 10 1992 16:19 | 18 |
| I really don't understand this note.
I think this note tries to compare business settings and reflections
in business environments with those carried inside the house hold
vicinity, all this denial/feelings/psychoses/depressions etc.. are
non-business attributes and hence the whole analogy must break down.
in business it is all bottom line based methodology, and just the
facts please, and trying to address business/technological
environments with same emotional and directions borrowed from
the household and relationships type feelings will lead us to
no where.
this is just my personal opinions, and Iam under no distress to
say this.
/Nasser
I spell checked
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| 2094.16 | To all, NRA or not... | ODIXIE::SILVERS | Dave, have POQET will travel | Thu Sep 10 1992 16:57 | 1 |
| Lighten Up!
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| 2094.17 | | MU::PORTER | No more new notes | Thu Sep 10 1992 17:03 | 2 |
| One reason I'm against the NRA is that they seem to get
so huffy so quickly, even when armed with only a keyboard.
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| 2094.18 | outa here | MIMS::DUCAT_D | | Thu Sep 10 1992 17:38 | 7 |
| YIKES!
I'm gettin out of this note before I end up like Geraldo Rivera
Some people just shouldn't be put on the same stage.
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| 2094.19 | Write-locked | SCAACT::AINSLEY | Less than 150 kts is TOO slow | Thu Sep 10 1992 18:26 | 4 |
| If someone wants to discuss something relevent to the topic, send one
of the moderators mail, otherwise this will stay write-locked.
Bob - Co-moderator DIGITAL
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