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Conference 7.286::digital

Title:The Digital way of working
Moderator:QUARK::LIONELON
Created:Fri Feb 14 1986
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:5321
Total number of notes:139771

2041.0. "The Chinese way of TQM?!" by UTROP1::GROOTW () Fri Aug 07 1992 09:56

    
    excerpt from THE WALL STREET JOURNAL 
    
    
                18 CHINESE MANAGERS EXECUTED FOR SHODDY QUALITY
    
    BEIJING - Eighteen factory managers were executed for poor product 
    quality at Chien Bien Refrigerator Factory on the outskirts of the 
    Chinese capital. The managers - 12 men and 6 women - were taken to a 
    rice paddy outside the factory and unceremoniously shot to death as 500 
    plant workers looked on. Ministry of Economic Reform spokesman, Xi Ten 
    Haun, said the action was required for committing unpardonable crimes 
    against the people of China. He blamed the managers for ignoring 
    quality and forcing shoddy work, saying the factory's output of 
    refrigerators had a reputation for failure. For years factory workers 
    complained that many component parts did not meet specification and the 
    end product did not function as required. Compressors were cracked, 
    leaked freon and the electrical components were sub-standard. 
    Complaining workers quoted the Plant Manager as saying, "Ship it. 
    "Customers, who waited up to five years for their appliances, were 
    outraged, he says. "It is understandable our citizens would express 
    shock and outrage when managers are careless in their attitudes toward 
    the welfare of others."Refrigerators are among the most sought after 
    consumer items in Communist China.  "Managers in charge of production 
    and engineering failed to perform any useful corrections to the quality 
    problems for the last 20 years." Haun said.  "Our soldiers are 
    justified in wishing to bring proper justice to these errant managers."  
    The executed included the Plant Manager, the Quality Control Manager, 
    the Engineering Managers and their top staff.
    
    
    
    
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2041.1reorgBOOKS::HAMILTONAll models are false; some are useful - Dr. G. BoxFri Aug 07 1992 10:278
    re: .1
    
    Um, didn't we just get a contract with a big manufacturer
    in China?  Hope we perform well.
    
    Now *that's* a reorganization.
    
    Glenn
2041.2ECAD2::SHERMANECADSR::Sherman DTN 223-3326Fri Aug 07 1992 10:397
    Hmmm.  Wonder what kind of ads they'll place for the new positions.
    
    "WANTED: Quality-minded Plant Manager for refrigerator manufacturing 
    facility.  Lifetime position.  Dedicated staff.  Aggressive benefits
    and training programs."
    
    Steve
2041.3reality checkSGOUTL::BELDIN_RD-Day: 237 days and countingFri Aug 07 1992 10:396
    Is this a repeat of the article I heard about a year ago?  No date was
    included, so I can't tell.
    
    Or is it bogus?
    
    Dick
2041.4UTROP1::SIMPSON_Djust call me LazarusFri Aug 07 1992 10:533
    .0 is an Urban Legend.  It has been around the net so many times, and
    put in so many conferences, that I'm surprised there's anybody left who
    takes it seriously.
2041.5repeat, but worht notingGUCCI::RWARRENFELTZFri Aug 07 1992 10:547
    RE.3
    
    DICK:
    
    This must be a repeat since I heard about it several months ago also.
    
    Ron
2041.6Best in Class?MARX::BAIRDNot bad, 4 out of 6Fri Aug 07 1992 11:364
    
    True, false or embelished...that's WORLD CLASS reorganization.
    
    and no restructuring charges, either.
2041.7OLDTMR::FOXFri Aug 07 1992 12:083
    re -1
    
    bullets.
2041.8Complaint dept.DENVER::DAVISGBGil Davis in AlbuquerqueFri Aug 07 1992 12:134
    Rented Sharpshooters....
    
    of course, they could have hastily trained some customers....
    who I am sure donated their time...
2041.9WMOIS::CHAPLAIN_FTempus Omnia VincitFri Aug 07 1992 13:327
    
    The story is true, but it happened during the Cultural Revolution of
    the 1960s.
    
    Not exactly up-to-date stuff.
    
    
2041.10TFSO - The Firing Squad Olympics?MARX::BAIRDNot bad, 4 out of 6Fri Aug 07 1992 14:0211
    
    re .7
    
     Ammo is an expensed item - no need for charges.
    
    re .8
    
     Sell lottery tickets with winners on the 'Termination Team.'
     Income covers the costs of ammo.
    
     Sell rights food/souvenir concessions to make a profit from the event!
2041.11they know how to keep expenses down too ... CUPTAY::BAILEYSeason of the WinchFri Aug 07 1992 14:296
    Actually, the cost of the bullet is billed to the family of the person
    who was executed ... I read this shortly after the Tieneman (sp?) Square
    incident.
    
    ... Bob
    
2041.12ULYSSE::WADEFri Aug 07 1992 17:579
	Re .9
    
>>  	The story is true .........

	How do you know?  Prove it.
    
	Jim
    

2041.13WMOIS::CHAPLAIN_FTempus Omnia VincitMon Aug 10 1992 13:2017
    
    re .12
    
     The story was reported ten or more years ago in the local press.
    I accepted those reports as true.  
    
     After all, why would I question it?  Any political regime that had
    no compunctions about killing thousands or hundreds of thousands of
    perceived enemies among their own people would doubtless not hesitate 
    to commit such an act.
    
     Or do you expect me to prove the atrocities of the Cultural Revolution
    too?
    
    Frank
    
    
2041.14CARTUN::MISTOVICHMon Aug 10 1992 14:414
    Remember, this is the same government that we saw drive tanks over
    student activists.
    
    Mary
2041.15repeatVAXUUM::FONTAINEMon Aug 10 1992 15:219
    
    Don't know if it's true or not, but like .3 and others said, it's been
    around the block a few times on the net.  I saw it over a year or
    so ago.
    
    Old material.
    
    NF
    
2041.16WRKSYS::GOLDBERGMarshall R.Mon Aug 10 1992 19:348
    
    I was in a shopping mall once that was blocked off while security
    looked for a kidnapped little boy. While waiting, I was charged $200 for
    the Mrs. Fields cookie recipe! After that outrage, a boil on my face I
    got while on vacation in Tarongananga broke and little spiders crawled
    out! Sheez. Finally, security announced they found the little boy in the 
    ladies room dressed up like a little girl and we were allowed to go home. 
    
2041.17Urbane legends galoreSTAR::BECKPaul BeckMon Aug 10 1992 19:396
    re .16

    ... an the whole thing was a hallucination induced by LSD in the form of
    blue stick-on stars, right? So now you can send that postcard to that
    sick boy who's trying to get into the Guiness book, and then pick up the
    ghost of a little girl hichhiking home ...
2041.18ULYSSE::WADETue Aug 11 1992 03:486
	Re .17
>>	-< Urbane legends galore >-

	        Right.  And lots of urban legends, too.
		Some of which are far from urbane.  
		Sort of suburbane?  :-)
2041.19just to finish it offVAXUUM::FONTAINETue Aug 11 1992 10:176
    
    re. 16, 
    
    And I'll bet the kidnappers had/or were in the process of dying the
    little boy's hair too!
    
2041.20VOGON::LIUTue Aug 11 1992 10:5010
    .9:
    >The story is true, but it happened during the Cultural Revolution of
    >the 1960s
    
    I think this is a false news. I had been living in Beijing until 1989. 
    I have never heard of it. Another doubt is that in 1960s Chinese people
    don't have refrigerators at homes. There was hardly any refrigerator
    industry in China in 1960's.
    
    Xiangdong   
2041.21Topic write-lockedSCAACT::AINSLEYLess than 150 kts is TOO slowTue Aug 11 1992 11:1710
    O.K., now that this thing has been reasonably debunked, and the
    information content is fast approaching zero, I'm going to write-lock
    this topic.
    
    As usual, if someone has a good reason to reopen this topic, send any
    of the moderators mail and we will consider the request.
    
    Thanks,
    
    Bob - Co-moderator DIGITAL