| T.R | Title | User | Personal
Name | Date | Lines |
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| 1888.1 | Guess I have a LEADER | ALAMOS::ADAMS | Visualize Whirled Peas | Fri May 08 1992 01:55 | 4 |
| Mine is a LEADER in 13 out of 14. The one 'BOSS' quality is a matter
of circumstance. Just lucky I guess.
--- Gavin
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| 1888.2 | Thanks for typing in that base note! | CADSYS::HECTOR::RICHARDSON | | Fri May 08 1992 10:31 | 3 |
| I just forwarded the base note to my LEADER!
/Charlotte
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| 1888.3 | Strange, I have at least 3 leaders | STAR::PARKE | True Engineers Combat Obfuscation | Fri May 08 1992 10:47 | 1 |
| Straight up my leg of the ladder are at least three that "pass" with colors.
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| 1888.4 | LUCKY | MSDOA::MCCLOUD | BIG fish eat little fish | Fri May 08 1992 10:53 | 1 |
| Mine is a LEADER also..
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| 1888.5 | | FIGS::BANKS | This was | Fri May 08 1992 11:10 | 4 |
| .3:
Huh. I gotta go up to #3 to get a "pass". Seems like we see at least one
person differently...
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| 1888.6 | Sure would like to know who the previous repliers work for! | XNTRIK::MAGOON | | Fri May 08 1992 11:19 | 2 |
| I only know of one leader, and that person isn't even close to my chain of
command. I haven't known any in this company in the past, either.
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| 1888.7 | A very useful tool for finding non-productive management | SYORPD::DEEP | Bob Deep - SYO, DTN 256-5708 | Fri May 08 1992 12:05 | 4 |
| This would make a great company-wide survey. It would certainly help in the
next TFSO.
Bob
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| 1888.8 | | MCIS5::BOURGAULT | | Fri May 08 1992 12:56 | 3 |
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I worked previously for a "leader". He's taking the SERP.
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| 1888.9 | | INDUCE::SHERMAN | ECADSR::Sherman DTN 223-3326 | Fri May 08 1992 12:58 | 5 |
| I am lucky. In my organization the management passes .0's test admirably
for at least three levels above me. That's one of the main things that
drew me to this group and why I have chosen to remain with Digital.
Steve
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| 1888.10 | | FORTSC::CHABAN | Make *PRODUCTS* not consortia!! | Fri May 08 1992 13:32 | 5 |
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Re: .8
Ditto here! bummer.....
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| 1888.11 | a daffy-nition. | BTOVT::CACCIA_S | the REAL steve | Fri May 08 1992 13:41 | 28 |
|
What is a boss???? In many cases, not all, a boss is.....
a double S.O.B. spelled backwards.
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| 1888.12 | | COOKIE::WITHERS | Bob Withers - In search of a quiet moment | Fri May 08 1992 14:17 | 15 |
| My view, from the top down:
Leader
Boss
Boss
Leader
Bossy Leader
Leader
Leader
Me
I think there's a problem somewhere between the top leader and the next leader
down.
BobW
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| 1888.13 | Do bosses read notes? | NEADEV::HANDLOFF | NOTARY SOJAC | Fri May 08 1992 15:43 | 4 |
| It's interesting that a number of people feel free to criticize their
managers in this conference. Is there a conclusion to be drawn here?
Hillel
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| 1888.14 | I'd never be critical of my boss in here | MEMORY::BROWER | | Fri May 08 1992 16:43 | 9 |
| Re:-1 I'd never make a derogatory comment about my boss in here.
Our structure is: VP Good leader
VP no comment
Bosses boss no comment
Boss no comment
Project Engineer very good leader
Me grunt
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| 1888.15 | | JMPSRV::MICKOL | Winning with Xerox in '92 | Sat May 09 1992 00:30 | 7 |
| My boss is a leader. Hmmmm, not sure what that means, but he has most, if not
all, of the attributes stated on the right side of the base note (.0).
Regards,
Jim
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| 1888.16 | There are also leaders | FNOPST::MAINST::RAJALA | The Wonder Child of Technique | Sat May 09 1992 18:02 | 5 |
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Mine is a leader, his is near leader, his is very much leader and after
that I don't say anything, because I haven't even seen them.
They are somewhere in other countries.
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| 1888.17 | | SLOVAX::THOMSON | , Mark DTN 544-3195 | Mon May 11 1992 02:15 | 5 |
| Observation about commenting on our respective managers in this forum:
Leaders may participate in notes conferences,
Boss's probably won't.
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| 1888.19 | n | ELMAGO::SMAYNARD | a call from my soul | Mon May 11 1992 10:15 | 3 |
|
.....all bosses here!!!!!!
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| 1888.20 | | MEMIT::CANSLER | | Tue May 12 1992 16:33 | 2 |
| mine is a LEADER also..
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| 1888.21 | formula for TFSO | CSC32::K_BOUCHARD | Ken Bouchard CXO3-2 | Tue May 12 1992 18:04 | 4 |
|
TFSO=(criticize your boss in Digital notes)+(boss reads Digital notes)
Ken
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| 1888.22 | If thats all it takes .................... | TRAM::PUSSERY | Born a rebel ; dyed a rebel...RIIIIIIPP | Tue May 12 1992 18:19 | 8 |
|
If I could only show mine how to access notes , much less reply...
It can't be this easy....
Paul
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| 1888.23 | | EJOVAX::JFARLEY | | Tue May 12 1992 21:05 | 1 |
| My Boss is a GIRLIE MAN
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| 1888.24 | re .23 | RDVAX::KALIKOW | This is your Brain on VACATION! | Wed May 13 1992 08:18 | 4 |
| Go to an "Understanding the Dynamics of Difference" Program.
Go directly to an "Understanding the Dynamics of Difference" Program.
Do not pass GO.
Do not collect $200.
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| 1888.25 | Its either a he or a she | ZPOVC::MICHAELLEE | | Wed May 13 1992 09:00 | 5 |
|
re: .23
Does that mean "he" is a "1/2 she"....???
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| 1888.26 | Humor | SCAACT::AINSLEY | Less than 150 kts. is TOO slow | Wed May 13 1992 09:58 | 3 |
| re: .24, I took .23 to be a joke based upon .21 and .22.
Bob
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| 1888.27 | | BEING::EDP | Always mount a scratch monkey. | Wed May 13 1992 10:58 | 7 |
| Re .24:
Yes, that is doubleplusgood rightthinking. Everything should
rightthink; it is goodness.
-- edp
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| 1888.28 | if .26 is true, .23 is imho a bad joke... | RDVAX::KALIKOW | Partially sage, and rarely on time | Wed May 13 1992 10:59 | 1 |
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| 1888.29 | A Different View | HOCUS::SEARL | | Wed May 13 1992 11:44 | 20 |
| I think the base note really misses the mark. What it describes are
many of the qualities that define an effective manager; someone who can
get the job done with the fewest resources, at the lowest cost, in the
shortest time, with the greatest satisfaction to the organization. A
compamy as complex as DEC needs lots of good managers. But good
managers can't thrive without leadership.
A leader can be characterized by three qualities, all of which must be
present----
1. A leader has a vision.
2. A leader is able to communicate to and share the vision with
the organization.
3. A leader inspires action to achieve the vision.
A company can't afford to have too many leaders, else anarchy will be the
result. On the other hand, if it doesn't have any leaders, chaos will be
the result. Which condition applies to DEC?
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| 1888.30 | | WLDBIL::KILGORE | ...57 channels, and nothin' on... | Wed May 13 1992 17:08 | 8 |
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.29> A company can't afford to have too many leaders, else anarchy will be the
.29> result. On the other hand, if it doesn't have any leaders, chaos will be
.29> the result. Which condition applies to DEC?
old DEC -- the former
new Digital -- the latter
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| 1888.31 | We all need to be leaders | RIPPLE::KOTTERRI | | Thu May 14 1992 13:28 | 26 |
| Re: Note 1888.29 by HOCUS::SEARL
I liked your analysis of the qualities of a leader. However, I don't
agree with this statement:
> A company can't afford to have too many leaders, else anarchy will be the
> result. On the other hand, if it doesn't have any leaders, chaos will be
> the result.
My view of this is that we each need to be a leader within our own
sphere of influence. That is, we must first be a leader to our own
personal self, with the vision of what kind of a person we want and
choose to be. Then, we each need to be a leader to the things that are
within our own personal stewardship, such our job assignment, whatever
it might be, or within our own family, if we have one.
When you look at it this way, there does not have to be anarchy, if
each person is being a leader over the things that belong to them to
lead. As they succeed in doing this, their sphere of influence will
grow, and they will generally be given more things to be a leader of,
perhaps in the form of a promotion, perhaps in less formal ways as they
assist their co-workers. If they do a poor job of leading, their
effective sphere of influence will generally get smaller.
I think every person should strive to be a leader, in the sense that I
have discussed it.
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| 1888.32 | | SALSA::MOELLER | snarling NETcrank | Thu May 14 1992 19:53 | 5 |
| Mine took SERP.
bye, Sandy !
karl
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| 1888.33 | "wimp", as in "person who can't hack VAX Notes" | LGP30::FLEISCHER | without vision the people perish (381-0899 ZKO3-2/T63) | Fri May 15 1992 14:04 | 14 |
| re Note 1888.28 by RDVAX::KALIKOW:
> -< if .26 is true, .23 is imho a bad joke... >-
To understand .23 as it was intended, you have to have been a
follower of the "Saturday Night Live" TV show for the past
few years.
Otherwise, you will take it in a very different light, and
probably be offended.
To get more of the original intention, substitute "wimp".
Bob
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| 1888.34 | Only 13 ? | DENVER::SHAWS | | Mon May 18 1992 01:46 | 3 |
| re .1
Gavin, which on did I miss on ?
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