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1675.1 | Amen!!!!! | SQM::MACDONALD | | Mon Nov 18 1991 13:53 | 16 |
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An excellent example of what we have been preaching with the
Total Quality Management program and specifically with Six Sigma.
Having the right product at the right price isn't enough. There
are more companies competing now for less business so having the
right product at the right price is going to be a given. Getting
the small stuff right and never leaving the customer concerned or
exposed in any way is going to be the competitive difference that
gets business.
For now and the future, the game is *never* dissatisfy the customer
about *anything*.
Steve
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1675.2 | Is it is easy to nitpick, or harder to do it right? | CUPMK::SLOANE | Communication is the key | Mon Nov 18 1991 16:11 | 13 |
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The title of this note is a good example of what you say we should not be doing.
If you are truly interested in getting the details right, I suggest you start
with the base note.
Or did you put that mistake in here to see if we are paying attention?
Bruce
PS -- Here is the original title (included here so that if it is corrected, you
can read the original).
"Details that can't swept under the rug"
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1675.3 | re -1 | WOTVAX::MACKENZIER | | Tue Nov 19 1991 09:40 | 11 |
| My, what a positive and helpful reply to the base note. We all have a
little finger trouble at times and I don't think "nitpicking" about a minor
typo should detract from what is a salutory lesson in what really counts
out there just now.
- Power to mice in the company of elephants (surely there's a film in there
somewhere!).
R
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1675.4 | | CUPMK::SLOANE | Communication is the key | Tue Nov 19 1991 10:41 | 7 |
| It may look like a nitpick, but two of the common complaints of customers
that the basenoter pointed out was 1. lack of attention to details, and 2.
typos and mistakes in print. The basenoter did the very thing that he is
complaining about! He certainly proved his point!
Bruce
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1675.5 | about .3 and glass houses | ALIEN::MCCULLEY | RSX Pro | Tue Nov 19 1991 10:47 | 37 |
| .3> My, what a positive and helpful reply to the base note. We all have a
.3> little finger trouble at times and I don't think "nitpicking" about a minor
.3> typo should detract from what is a salutory lesson in what really counts
.3> out there just now.
hmm. A "salutory lesson" eh?
about what? QUALITY???
the occurance of typos impacts quality. yep, we all have a little
finger trouble at times, in a post to a notesfile it just provides a
nice object lesson in consistency - in my source code it inserts bugs
which may well not be found in testing. Thus I must proofread what I
really typed, and correct errors when I'm working on source. Why is it
ok to tolerate errors (poor quality) in human-readable typing when they
are not tolerable in machine-readable source code?
It seems to me that the message of programs such as Six Sigma is that
we should all cultivate quality as a habit, all the time.
I think the typo was a nice object lesson. I don't think pointing it
out was useless "nitpicking" but rather an attempt to emphasize the
same basic message. I do think that sarcasm ("My, what a positive...")
both missed the point and committed the same error that it was intended
to criticize.
Incidentally, I recently read a book that got off on the wrong foot
with me over minor errors just like the title typo. The last straw was
a discussion about the importance of details to quality that included
the injunction to look at the book cover to see the shade of blue that
IBM had chosen for their corporate image after careful research into
subjective reactions to color - and the book cover was purple! After
that, it was difficult to take anything else that was said very
seriously.
Details count. That was the message in .0, the title contradicted the
basic statement. Did that help or hurt the message?
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1675.6 | re .5 | WOTVAX::MACKENZIER | | Tue Nov 19 1991 12:59 | 13 |
| Oops, nice one .5. Shot myself in the foot with .3's boob! If you're going
to attempt a bit of sarcasm in a notesfile always spell check it first!
For what it's worth, I enjoyed the article in the base note as reminder of
what I need to do to keep my customers happy, and very often it is a brief
read like .0 which is most effective at re-focussing on what I should be
doing. The finger slip in the title didn't detract from the value of its
content to me.
Just my opinion,
R
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1675.7 | There is no error in this title | SDSVAX::SWEENEY | Truth, Justice, and Flames | Tue Nov 19 1991 21:40 | 3 |
| The error was deliberate on my part.
Pat Sweeney
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1675.8 | Mistake? what mistake? | STUDIO::HAMER | complexity=technical immaturity | Wed Nov 20 1991 09:25 | 7 |
| >> -< There is no error in this title >-
>>The error was deliberate on my part.
That's not a bug, that's a feature! :-)
John H.
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1675.9 | 99.9% ... Good Enough? | CSCOA1::BAINE_K | | Fri Nov 22 1991 14:18 | 22 |
| Here is further commentary on why attention to details and
follow-through are critical.
"Why isn't 99.9% defect-free good enough?"
To show why it isn't, Jeff Dewar, QCI International, Red Bluff,
California, came up with some examples of how some things would be if
they were done only 99.9% of the time.
We'd have to live with:
o 1 hour of unsafe drinking water every month;
o 2 unsafe plan landings per day at O'Hare;
o 16,000 pieces of mail lost by the U.S. Post Office every hour;
o 22,000 checks deducted from the wrong bank accounts each hour;
o 20,000 incorrect drug prescriptions per year;
o 500 incorrect surgical operations each week.
From Kathleen Baine
(Who gets crazy when she sees "it's" when "its" is the proper usage.)
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1675.10 | I'm sure medicine is worse than 99.9%, for example | MINAR::BISHOP | | Fri Nov 22 1991 15:00 | 7 |
| re .9, list of things like lost mail
I bet we already do live with those things, and worse.
Don't assume any current system is 99.99+% defect-free.
-John Bishop
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1675.11 | thr grouch responds | PULPO::BELDIN_R | Pull us together, not apart | Fri Nov 22 1991 15:14 | 12 |
| re .9, .10
>I bet we already do live with those things, and worse.
You'd win, John. Why do you think the frustration level expressed here
and in every "letters to the editor" page in every newspaper in the
country is so high? Because you can't count on many things to even be
90% right, let alone 99.9%.
fwiw,
Dick
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1675.12 | A bad plan* | SANFAN::ALSTON_JO | | Fri Nov 22 1991 16:30 | 6 |
| RE .9
Kathleen, with one misspelled word in the text of your note,(see plan*)
you accuracy works out to be 99.9991% I'd say you just made it.
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1675.13 | | SQM::MACDONALD | | Mon Nov 25 1991 17:31 | 17 |
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Re: .9
I've seen that data and use some of it in my Six Sigma class.
The version I've seen says that the surgical procedure data is
5000 per week not 500. Can you confirm which is correct?
Re: .12
> Kathleen, with one misspelled word in the text of your note,(see plan*)
> you accuracy works out to be 99.9991% I'd say you just made it.
^^^^
You do know the story about glass houses I assume?
Steve
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1675.14 | 99% is ok by me. | SANFAN::ALSTON_JO | | Mon Nov 25 1991 20:57 | 5 |
| re 13
I thought that was the king in the glass castle that shouldn't stow
thrones??
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1675.15 | What Xerox said about 99.9% | STUDIO::HAMER | complexity=technical immaturity | Tue Nov 26 1991 09:41 | 15 |
| >>I've seen that data and use some of it in my Six Sigma class.
>>The version I've seen says that the surgical procedure data is
>>5000 per week not 500. Can you confirm which is correct?
A presentation from Xerox I have, "Xerox Quest for Quality and the
National Quality Award," gives the following factoids:
a 99.9% yield would result in 18 plane crashes a day;
17,000 lost pieces of mail per hour;
3,700 incorrectly filled prescriptions per day;
10 newborn babies dropped each day in the delivery room;
$24.8M wrongfully deducted from our bank accounts each hour;
500 (five-hundred) botched surgeries per week.
John H.
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1675.16 | Remember Worsing? | MR4DEC::CURRIE | That's my soul up there | Tue Nov 26 1991 10:05 | 5 |
| Is it about time for 'Worsing's speech to IBM' to make another
appearance? I have a copy to post if it isn't already available in
another note. It has great relevance to this discussion.7
jim
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1675.17 | Clarification request | TRUCKS::WINWOOD | Pick up the phone - Press execute | Fri Nov 29 1991 11:24 | 8 |
| One must be very careful in this note to spell everything correctly
so this entry should not be a problem.
However, try as I might, I cannot see the problem with the topic
title. Would any reader care to elucidate the problem described?
Calvin
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1675.18 | | LAVETA::CONLON | Dreams happen!! | Fri Nov 29 1991 11:56 | 8 |
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The title of the article reprinted in the basenote is:
"Details that can't be swept under the rug."
^^
Now check the topic title again.
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1675.19 | The Point | SDSVAX::SWEENEY | Honey, I iconified the kids | Fri Nov 29 1991 22:26 | 6 |
| The point is that the best plan, whether it's "empowerment" or "six
sigma" or whatever the quality scheme de jour is, is useless without
basic respect for the customer in details: answering the phone,
following up, and correct spelling in correspondence with customers.
Good customer service is getting the details right consistently.
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1675.20 | That's so Bl**ding obvious! | TRUCKS::WINWOOD | Pick up the phone - Press execute | Sun Dec 01 1991 12:18 | 7 |
| Thanks for that. I guess the phenomena is rather like the Investment
in Excellence (aka New Age thinking) and Lou Tice's 6 F's
demonstration.
Calvin (Feeling embarrassed at at such a simple problem/fix)
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1675.21 | I'd scribble a note, if this Digital pen would write... | ASD::DIGRAZIA | | Thu Dec 05 1991 14:35 | 16 |
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From .0: "Those who act on the knowledge that details make the
difference will be well set. "
Some months ago a group of us visited Stow to see what the Customer
Support people do all day. I was impressed. The nice people in
charge at Stow gave us a handout with a notepad, some brochures, and
a ballpoint pen. I've lost the brochures and the notepad. The
ballpoint pen, bearing the "Digital" logo, lingers on to remind me
often that Digital is the company whose name appears on cheap
ballpoint pens that require unseemly scratching to get them started...
Well, _of course_ it's silly. But I wonder what kind of ballpoiont
IBM gives away...
Regards, Robert.
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1675.22 | It's obvious... | QETOO::FERREIRA | | Sun Dec 08 1991 23:13 | 3 |
| re -1: "But I wonder what kind of ballpoint IBM gives away..."
...a Big, Blue one, of course!
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