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Conference 7.286::digital

Title:The Digital way of working
Moderator:QUARK::LIONELON
Created:Fri Feb 14 1986
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:5321
Total number of notes:139771

1508.0. "SUPPORT GROUP" by WMOIS::STYVES_A () Tue Jun 25 1991 08:21

    I recently received a call from a friend that informed me
    that he and some of his friends were thinking of forming
    a support group comprised of former DIGITAL employees. The
    question came up as to weather or not the word digital could
    be used in the title of the group i.e. Former Digital Employees
    Association or any other name that would identify or be associated
    with the DIGITAL EQUIPMENT CORPORATION.  A comment was made by
    someone that none of them worked for digital.  The name of their
    former employer was DIGITAL EQUIPMENT CORPORATION not digital.
    
    The question simply put is, can they use the word digital in the
    title of their group without getting involved with legal hassles?
    
    They want it to be clearly understood that they are strictly a
    support group and have no intention of or desire to be cast in an
    adversary role.
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1508.1Interest in Support GroupPIPPER::HOHMANTue Jun 25 1991 09:178
    Art,
    
    I know someone that would be interested in such a group. Could you
    keep me informed as to when and where this group may be meeting. Will
    it communicate via modem? 
    
    Roger
    
1508.2SMOOT::ROTHFrom little acorns mighty oaks grow.Tue Jun 25 1991 11:1312
This is opinion, not legal advice.

There are many companies with the word 'Digital' in the title. If I
wanted to create a company called "Digital Diaper Service" I doubt there
would be a problem with it. If I started a computer company called
"Digital Electronics Corporation" it may be in a bit of a gray area if
customers began to confuse it with Digital Equipment Corporation.

However, 'DEC' is property of Digital Equipment Corporation thus any name
you come up with would/should avoid the use of the word 'DEC'.

Lee
1508.3I'll suggest a nameSMOOT::ROTHFrom little acorns mighty oaks grow.Tue Jun 25 1991 11:215
Here's a name that should do... with no legal worries:



Discarded Digits
1508.4SWAM2::HOMEYER_CHNo, but you can see it from hereTue Jun 25 1991 14:245
    and another
    
    
       XDECie
    
1508.5DigitalDiscards? FRYE::CASEYTue Jun 25 1991 16:480
1508.6"Gone With the Wan!"ABACUS::CLOUDWed Jun 26 1991 14:212
    "U_NIXED"...?
    
1508.7COOKIE::LENNARDRush Limbaugh, I Luv Ya GuyWed Jun 26 1991 14:301
    DECDUMP??
1508.8MAMTS3::WFIGANIAKYEAH..GET THE RED ONEWed Jun 26 1991 14:361
    DROPED BITS
1508.9Ah, another acronym!SENIOR::HAMBURGERCarvers are on the cutting edgeWed Jun 26 1991 15:2612
    D igits
    I n
    G reat
    I nternal
    T urmoil
    A bout
    L eaving

    	Wish them well for all of us.....

    	Vic 
1508.10SNOBRD::CONLIFFEout-of-the-closet ThespianWed Jun 26 1991 15:443
DECeased????


1508.11AQOPAS::ADRIFT::BURKEAndy � Wed Jun 26 1991 15:512
    DECimated ???
    
1508.13let the slings and arrows beginCSC32::K_BOUCHARDKen Bouchard CXO3-2Wed Jun 26 1991 17:067
    If and when I get laid off I'll go out and look for another job not
    commiserate with others who share my fate. Remember,this is a
    job,nothing more nothing less. If it ever got to the point where I'd
    have to seek out such a "support group" to try and console myself,I'd
    hope someone would check me in to the "funny farm".
    
    Ken
1508.14One arrow coming up!COOKIE::LENNARDRush Limbaugh, I Luv Ya GuyWed Jun 26 1991 18:174
    I agree, Ken.  I'd make a deliberate effort to divorce myself forever
    from DEC, its products, and its people.  There's nothing special about
    DEC anymore...its just another struggling company, poorly led, offering
    routine jobs.
1508.15Forward-Looking Focus!AKOFAT::BIBEAULTBob, AKO1-3/N3 (DTN) 244-6136Wed Jun 26 1991 21:0811
    A support group should be forward-looking and be focused 
    on networking, achieving new goals and providing mutual support and 
    assistance in achieving them.
    
    Many such groups already exist and some are affiliated with local
    church groups.
    
    Of course, there is no reason why a group of ex-DECies could not form
    such a support group and perhaps they may...
    
    Bob
1508.16Acronyms--- cont.GENRAL::SHERWOODYEA! ** CAMPING SEASON IS HERE!!**Thu Jun 27 1991 11:342
    
    DECumsized
1508.17and anotherHSOMAI::CREBERThu Jun 27 1991 12:2413
    how about 
    
    
    			Decasualites
    
    
    
    and from the dictionary:
    
    decasualization -  the process eliminating the employment of casual 
                       workers in order to stabilize the workforce.
    
    
1508.18smilin' in your faceBTOVT::CACCIA_Sthe REAL steveThu Jun 27 1991 13:0314


    I can see it now. A "support group" of ex Deccies all crying about how
    bad they feel and their woes since losing job instead of getting out
    and actually doing something constructive like trying to find another
    job.  But wait, they all tell each other about this great new job they 
    heard about at BLTZVCK corp. and how great the other one would do at it.




    (snicker - snicker . I went there yesterday and got the job.)

1508.19Essential InformationTOOK::DMCLUREWork to build the netThu Jun 27 1991 14:0916
re: .15,

    	There is a similar idea being proposed/discussed in note #300
    of the TOOK::UU conference called "worknet" (Press KP7 to add).
    Also, why limit such a program to ex-DECies?  There is a program
    in place in some 80 different cities across the U.S. known as the
    "Time Dollar" or "Service Credit" program, which allows (primarily
    retirees, but increasingly intergenerational) groups of people to
    network their skills and support each other based loosely on a
    system of exchanging one's time for "Service Credits" which can
    later be "spent" on other services.  For more information, write
    to the following non-profit organization founded by Ralph Nader:

    			   Essential Information
    			      P.O. Box 19405
			  Washington, D.C. 20036
1508.20otro vezRMDSRV::EIDSONCelibacy is it's own punishment.Thu Jun 27 1991 14:333
    
    DEX-CESSED!!
    
1508.21DEXmatesBREAKR::MIKKELSONBo knows avascular necrosis.Thu Jun 27 1991 15:181
    
1508.22"Support" ? which one ?BEAGLE::BREICHNERFri Jun 28 1991 04:5320
    I tried to reply earlier, but got the unfamous: "Cannot ...."
    
    By that time I thought "support group" meant ex DEC'ies to
    run some sort of customer support business. E.g RT11, RSTS, MUMPS,...
    "mature technology support", where I believe that there are
    true business opportunities, once you got the sources.
    
    In that case the name becomes REALLY important, also legally,
    (where I don't know anything).
    If I'd do such a business, I'd call it something like:
    "Real Time Support..." 
    The hint: "we are ex-DEC'ies knowing that stuff" is important
    in the startup, but would fade over time and if you are successfull,
    hinder you to pick up other ex-whatsoever "mature" support business that
    starts to pile up on "strategic" junk-yards here and there.
    
    I guess I misunderstood the notion of "support" in the base note,
    but just in case.....
    /fred
    
1508.23MRKTNG::SILVERBERGMark Silverberg DTN 264-2269 TTB1-5/B3Fri Jun 28 1991 08:422
    DECdrops
    
1508.24KOALA::RYANOne of these days, one of these daysFri Jun 28 1991 10:2011
	Well, it's clear that DEC employees have the skill necessary
	to open a dictionary to the words beginning with "dec":-).

	re .0: As the replies have made abundantly clear, this conference
	is not the place to get useful legal advice. Even if anyone
	had offered any, you'd have to take it with a grain of salt.
	If you want a definitive answer, ask the Legal Department.
	Even if it turns out that there might be grounds for "legal
	hassles", you might be able to get permission anyway.

	Mike
1508.25Getting beck to businessRANGER::MINOWThe best lack all conviction, while the worstFri Jun 28 1991 14:063
Dexcrement

Martin.
1508.26Should be the other way around.MR4DEC::KHARPERThis is not my movie.Fri Jun 28 1991 23:599
    Considering the mess this company is in, and its incompetent
    management, seems like the employees who stay are the ones who need a
    support group. Those who leave are escaping the zoo.
    
    Katherine
    
    
    
    
1508.27Creme DECreme (...I know, it's a stretch)SFCPMO::GREENECASE: No pain, no gain! Sun Jun 30 1991 13:181
    
1508.28TILTS::JAMESJust a player in a rock-n-roll worldMon Jul 08 1991 21:174
	DECNixed

    

1508.29I TOTALLY agree!CECV03::BEANAttila the Hun was a LIBERAL!Tue Jul 09 1991 08:5516
re:         <<< Note 1508.26 by MR4DEC::KHARPER "This is not my movie." >>>
<                      -< Should be the other way around. >-
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<    Considering the mess this company is in, and its incompetent
<    management, seems like the employees who stay are the ones who need a
<    support group. Those who leave are escaping the zoo.
<    
<    Katherine
    
    
    
    
    
    

    
1508.30"You've been selected to attend. . . .DECapathon"GLDOA::MCMULLENTue Jul 09 1991 12:356
    <SET SARCASM ON>
    
    Latest SALES organization group function - "DECapathon"
    
    <SET SARCASM OFF>