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1432.1 | MM => mgmt memo newletter | SDSVAX::SWEENEY | Patrick Sweeney in New York | Wed Apr 10 1991 12:01 | 4 |
| In VTX, "MM" is the name of the infobase. It has online copies of mgmt
memo.
There you'll get the official definitions.
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1432.2 | My definitions | GENRAL::CRANE | Barbara Crane --- dtn 522-2299 | Mon Apr 15 1991 15:56 | 41 |
| For those who don't want to go look elsewhere:
(Info courtesy of Larry White presentation.)
ABU: Account business unit. Worldwide entity which encompasses
an entire corporate account, buying anywhere from one product
per year from Digital to many products, from many sites, in
many nations, etc. There are app. 284 ABU's which make up
more than 90% of DEC's revenue. Also known as CABU's, Customer
Account Business Units. Includes direct selling, sales support,
loan & demo, account admin., system integration and negotiation
of customer allowances and discounts.
IBU: Integration Business unit. Manages the space between DEC
/third party hw, sw, service and Customer performance result.
No one admits to this, but it sounds sort of like a chunk
of the old (product lines). Includes applic. dev, acq and mgmt,
sales training, advertising, product reqm'ts, sales support,
segment strategies, consulting, etc. ~100 or so of these??
PCU: Product creation unit. Handles product/component design and
development, mfg., service delivery, base product mktg, sales
support, r & d, technology strategy and technical training.
~ 25 of these?
SCU: Same as PCU, except for service.
All of these entities must be independently profitable, and are
are accountable. How the needs of all these groups get merged
together is the tough problem--there were no good answers at the
presentation I attended.
Also, as these groups are measured on their own "pseudo P
and L's", and they are supposed to be able to choose what they
want to pay for, the merging of corporate vs. unit values should
be an exciting problem. For instance, will there be a corporate
"tax" to the P&L for activities such as the company
outing, or will each group independently decide if they will
fund ANY such activity in a given year? (please don't go down
a rathole--I just use that as an example of "corporate values"
that could be held differently at the unit level.)
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1432.3 | | KYOA::MIANO | John - NY Retail Banking Resource Cntr | Mon Apr 15 1991 22:56 | 3 |
| RE: .2
O.K., but recently I've heard of MBUs. What are they?
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1432.4 | | LESLIE::LESLIE | Andy Leslie | Tue Apr 16 1991 02:51 | 3 |
| Manufacturing Business Unit, at a guess.
- andy
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1432.5 | Managing By the Uninitiated? | SMEGIT::ARNOLD | Some assembly required | Tue Apr 16 1991 08:59 | 1 |
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1432.6 | Mfg Businees Unit | SALEM::MCWILLIAMS | | Tue Apr 16 1991 09:13 | 5 |
| Yes MBU refers to Mfg Business Unit which in days of old (aka last
year) was the partner of the PBU Product Business Unit. Now the MBU is
effectively under the PCU.
/jim
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1432.7 | | SQM::MACDONALD | | Tue Apr 16 1991 09:48 | 12 |
|
OK, thanks, but then what is an ABU meaning Applications Business
Unit? I had never heard of Account Business Unit. Seems we're
going to have our acronyms confused here.
And referring to the last one, what is the difference between
Applications Business Unit and Product Business Unit. The "creation"
units seem clear enough to me, but the lines defining one business
unit from another are more fuzzy.
Steve
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1432.8 | An ABU is not an ABU it is an IBU | SMAUG::GARROD | An Englishman's mind works best when it is almost too late | Tue Apr 16 1991 18:33 | 11 |
| The way I understand it the old ABUs (Application Business Units) are
now IBUs (Integration Business Units). The new ABUs (Account Business
Units) are new. What used to to be a PBU (Product Business Unit) is now
a PCU (Product Creation Unit).
So if you hear the term ABU you need to ask if the speaker means old
ABU or new ABU.
This is all meant to make Digital more profitable. We shall see...
Dave
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1432.9 | Me? A Pessimist? | SMAUG::GUNN | MAILbus Conductor | Tue Apr 16 1991 18:44 | 10 |
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NEW MANAGEMENT SYSTEM = STOVEPIPES FOR THE NINETIES!
There is a definite risk that our esteemed management may transfer some
of their parochial skills into the "New Management System". The
negotiations between business units hasn't really started yet; they're
all working off some rudimentary transfer pricing formulas so far.
Given that there are more than thirty Product and Service Creation and
Integration Business Units (and not counting all the Account Business
Units) the "fun" will really begin next fiscal year.
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1432.10 | 989 stovepipes, each looking for a profit. | JAWJA::GRESH | Subtle as a Brick | Tue Apr 16 1991 22:29 | 17 |
| re .9
>> Given that there are more than thirty Product and Service Creation
>> and Integration Business Units (and not counting all the Account
>> Business Units) the "fun" will really begin next fiscal year.
I may be wrong because the definition changes frequently(!), but by my
count there are approximately 89 PSCBU's and IBU's, plus 900 ABU's.
You're right, the fun(?) has just begun.
Don G.
PSCBU = Product and Service Creation Business Unit;
IBU = Integration Business Unit (Industry Mkt'g, EIS etc.);
ABU = Account Business Unit.
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1432.11 | MBU=MARKETING BUSINESS UNIT | CIMNET::MCCAIG | | Tue Apr 16 1991 23:53 | 25 |
| re; the last and a couple back...
An MBU is the new term for an Application Business Unit. It does NOT
stand for Mfg Business Unit.
The MBU is responsible for taking the budget that the corporation gives
to the unit, in my group this amounts to over twenty million dollars, and
turn a profit on that investment. This is where the MBU has to take off
its corporate hat and become more entreprenuerial(sp), use the budget it
has, to create product or offer services for a price that returns a
healthy profit to the company for their [approx] 20 million dollar
investment.
My group is also an IBU, what this means is that we put our corporate
hat back on and behave in ways that benefit the whole company, without
regard to the profit we must return for our operating budget. We still
are responsible for that ROI, mind you, but in the role of the IBU our
group must get very creative in how we spend the company's money.
Our group manager refers to this process as learning to walk and chew
gum at the same time. It is a new model, and a new way to conduct our
business. He refers to it as the New Management System. Much will be
written about the NMS according to what he has learned about it.
In any case, there you have a brief description of the MBU...
Regards,
Brian
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1432.12 | | SQM::MACDONALD | | Wed Apr 17 1991 12:28 | 7 |
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This topic is becoming muddier for me with each reply, but what
does come more clear is why I wrote .0 in the first place :^{
Steve
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1432.13 | what does it all mean from the customers' perspective | SAHQ::CARNELLD | DTN 385-2901 David Carnell @ALF | Wed Apr 17 1991 13:26 | 5 |
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And do all these ever changing names have any real impact on customers'
perceptions on how well we can satisfy their wants, solve their
problems and meet their expectations?
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1432.14 | | KYOA::MIANO | John - NY Retail Banking Resource Cntr | Wed Apr 17 1991 14:02 | 1 |
| Am I the only one who is confused?
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1432.15 | just wait a bit, it will change again | SMOOT::ROTH | From little acorns mighty oaks grow. | Wed Apr 17 1991 17:15 | 1 |
| Perhaps this can be refered to as the "organizational setup d' jour" ?
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1432.16 | | ESCROW::KILGORE | DECintact - the 'other' TP Monitor | Wed Apr 17 1991 17:20 | 3 |
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re .14: No.
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1432.17 | it was in MM - Jan??? | ANGLIN::BLACK | I always run out of time and space to finish .. | Thu Apr 18 1991 18:38 | 5 |
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The xBUs were explained in a Management Memo a few months ago, although
they might have realphabetized themselves by now. I recall that it was
a particularly confusing article even by MM's standards ... whoops
maybe I am getting NOTES crossed!
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1432.18 | supposedly the key to our return to profitability | JEKYLL::HYDE | From the laboratory of Dr. Jekyll | Fri Apr 19 1991 18:07 | 29 |
| We had a high muckity-muck type explain it locally in the following simplified
way.
The PCU/SCU creates a product or a service.
To create it incurs a certain cost, say $100.
The CU is told by the corporation that they will make a small,(10% for example),
profit on this product. So they create a 'transfer cost' of $110.
The IBU, or whatever they call the integration/value added group, is charged
with taking these various products/services and adding value to create a
'solution'. To create this solution they must 'buy' the products and services
from the creation group at the aforementioned transfer cost.
They then markup the 'solution' an additional amount based on the value they
add. They may not add more markup to the product or service itself, only the
value that they add plus a 'small' profit. We now have a 'solution' that has
a 'transfer cost', i.e. the dealer invoice cost. Let's say their final
solution now has a transfer cost of $1000.
The ABU, or the 'sales' organization, may now sell that solution to the
customer. An MLP price for said solution will exist, i.e. Manufacturers
Suggested Retail Price. So the salesy type can walk into Customer Shop
knowing that his organization has already paid $1000 for this solution and
that it has an MSRP of $10,000. So when the customer says, "It's great, but
I won't give you a dime over $8000 for it!", the salesy type can sit back with
furrowed brow, fiddle with calculator as if making a serious decision and then
look up, smile and say, "It's a deal. Sign right here." - instead of "I'll have
to get back to you on that."
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1432.19 | Ahh... you mean like a car dealership! | ESCROW::KILGORE | DECintact - the 'other' TP Monitor | Mon Apr 22 1991 08:59 | 1 |
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1432.20 | | SQM::MACDONALD | | Mon Apr 22 1991 11:07 | 12 |
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Re: .18
If ALL the things planned, implemented, etc. were explained
in such a simple, concrete way the rest of us who spend lots
of time scratching our heads about "what they're up to" would
be able to go on working to help make it successful instead of
having to figure out what it is that we should be doing next.
thanks,
Steve
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1432.21 | fold and mutilate until it makes sense! | NAC::SCHUCHARD | Al Bundy for Gov' | Wed Apr 24 1991 15:22 | 29 |
| re: .20 - It's been my experience that the folks at the top are
very good at giving simple explanations that make alot of sense and
are easily understood. The message gets mangled as it flows down thru
the ranks of wannabe's and needtofeelimportants that either details
get withheld(knowledge is power, right?) or the message gets
trumped up, or otherwise mangled in the name of power, politics, or vanity.
You can usually trust your instincts if you try and
reduce the information to simple, common sense terms. Almost always
you will come up with the same information as was uttered at the
company summit.
Maybe your manager or his/her manager or even your
local group manager or VP comes across as a real idiot, especially
when something emerges that was fondled by his/her staff, but I
think it is a generally true statement that these folks are anything
but. When they do come across that way, there is almost always some
group effort hidden from your perception that makes it seem so.
Such are the wonders of politics. Imagine how it must feel to
know you are looking like a total imbecile to people whom you
want admiration and respect from, when you know that the consequences
of revealing the wrong information might screw up a negotiation,
totally piss-off someone you cannot afford to pissoff, or otherwise
harm progress. Of course there are the times when idiot and imbecile
hit the mark square on, but then we all know what that feels like,
right?
bob
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1432.22 | Fold and mutilate just won't cut it | CADSE::HARDY | | Wed Apr 24 1991 17:40 | 27 |
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If I understand you correctly, what you're saying is that if I believe
that a communication from upper management is imbecilic or otherwise
nonsensical then I should presume that this imbecility is the value
added by intermediate managers. That's what I get out of your first
paragraph. Are you with me, so far?
I don't know what the point of your second paragraph is.
Then you go on to say that perhaps I should feel guilty for not having
the whole story: "almost always some group effort hidden from your
perception". In other words, I'm missing something; I'm the one who
doesn't understand, I'm the one with the problem. Is that right?
Then you want me to believe that this imbecility really masks an attempt
to save some critical negotiation, prevents offending some unknown player,
or otherwise is exhibited in the name of promoting progress.
If I have all the tenets of your communication down truly, I guess what
you're asking me to believe is that no matter how ignorant or misguided
I might think an upper-management decision might be, I should write it
off as being a misperception on my part.
If this is any kind of a facsimily accounting of the rationale going on
in this company, it's no wonder we're in a straight jacket.
Bill
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1432.23 | fold it anyway you like | PRIMES::ZIMMERMANN | @DCO, Landover MD, 341-2898 | Wed Apr 24 1991 20:50 | 9 |
| The way I read .21 is that I need be understanding of the poor sole who
is making a decision that 'appears' to be idiotic because of politics.
The problem I have is the politics itself. All the rest is just a
by-product.
FWIW,
Mark
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1432.24 | yes, you have it | NAC::SCHUCHARD | Al Bundy for Gov' | Tue Apr 30 1991 13:38 | 5 |
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i think both .22 and .23 understood me correctly.
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