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Conference 7.286::digital

Title:The Digital way of working
Moderator:QUARK::LIONELON
Created:Fri Feb 14 1986
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:5321
Total number of notes:139771

1392.0. "PCS - Prescription Benefit Program" by SCAACT::RESENDE (Digital, thriving on chaos?) Thu Mar 07 1991 21:07

    I'm surprised that there is no topic specifically on PCS, the medical
    benefit regarding prescription drugs, so I'll open one.

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    Interesting thing happened today, that is either an example of a
    unusually well-run organization or a very Orwellian bureaucracy.

    We were given a prescription for a mild antibiotic for our 13 month-old
    son that was supposed to last for a 6 week period.  A few weeks into
    it, he developed a minor ear infection, so our doctor told us to double
    the dosage for a week and then cut back, which we did.  As a result,
    the prescription didn't last for the full six weeks (this was
    complicated by our son's ability to dodge a medicine dropper of
    medicine as well, which increased our usage a small amount as well).

    Anyway, we asked to doctor to call in a refill prescription.  Today,
    the pharmacy called and said that PCS has turned down the prescription
    because the original prescription was for 6 weeks, and we would not be
    allowed to get a refill this soon.

    Now, this is an impressive administrative feat, PCS tracking an
    individual prescription so closely.

    Could this be a measure to control costs?

    Perhaps they think we are pushing Bactrim, a mild antibiotic, on the
    street corner?

    Perchance this is another way to annoy and make life a little more
    difficult for Digital employees?

    Needless to say, we are going to get the medicine for our son
    regardless.

    But it does raise a few questions to me about exactly what sort of
    information the PCS people have regarding prescriptions and how they
    manage this Digital employee benefit.

    Has anyone else run across such a situation?  Any thoughts?

    Steve
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1392.1ATPS::BLOTCKYFri Mar 08 1991 03:509
    I was in a similar situation with Harvard Community several years ago,
    when the doctor increased the dosage of my asmatha medication.  I the
    pharmacy's computer kept track of the refills, and it was the druggist
    who told me that a "too soon" refill would be rejected.  I solved the
    problem by asking the doctor to phone in a NEW perscription with
    revised dosage information.  The minor difference was between a REFILL
    and a NEW perscription for the same drug.
    
    Steve
1392.2Nit Picked to Death?SAHQ::STARIEI'd rather be skiing!Fri Mar 08 1991 09:2711
    I too have had a similar experience. My wif and I take the same med. We
    have to keep both perscriptions going evenly or we get rejections.
    
    On this same general subject I got a reject for $13.00 of Meds
    perscribed and furnished by a dentist. I would assume that the
    screening and rejection process must have cost at least $50.00. Perhaps
    there is some clue here to out of control medical costs.
    
    A simple " We will pay X% of ALL med costs regardless... plan would
    probably save money. The only question would be the value of X, and
    that could depend on the employee contribution...
1392.3TALLIS::KIRKMatt KirkFri Mar 08 1991 09:3812
I have a prescription for Retin-A that keeps getting bounced
too - apparently people over either 19 or 25 (depends on which person
I talk to) aren't supposed to have acne.  Each time I refill it
I have to get a letter from my doctor stating that the prescription is 
really being used for acne and not cosmetic purposes.  I then have
to send the letter and the paid bill to John Hancock, they forward
it to PCS, and then about 3 weeks later I get a check.

The first time this happened, last June, they claimed that most of the
prescriptions they were filling for Retin-A were for cosmetic purposes.

M
1392.4Trouble with NEW Rx's, not just refillsRHODES::GREENECatmax = Catmax + 1Fri Mar 08 1991 13:0333
    Here goes...again.  [sorry, but my John Hancock and PCS experiences
    have been nightmarish]
    
    Just about a month ago, I brought in a NEW prescription to the 
    pharmacy that I had been regularly taking each week's NEW
    prescription.  No refill issue here.  Well, the PCS computer
    link denied the cost with a notice that it was "too soon."
    One of the senior pharmacists said to the junior one, "No, no.
    This is a NEW prescription, not a refill.  Check it again; there
    must have been an error."  So they tried again:  "Too soon" was
    the response again.  I paid about $20 instead of the $6, because
    I *needed* the medicine now.  Each Rx was written for a 1 week
    supply, and I carefully filled them at one week intervals.
    
    I can't make use of the refill strategy, because sometimes I can't
    get to the pharmacy before it closes, so there is a second back-up
    pharmacy where I go instead in that case.  And my main pharmacy
    can't mail me the Rx (and bill me, like they used to do) because
    PCS *requires* my signature when the meds are dispensed.  No, I
    can't sign the book the next time I come in.
    
    Because I take several different medications for several different
    medical conditions, I don't like dealing with lots of different
    pharmacies.  I prefer getting to know the pharmacists, and having
    them know me and my medical situation, so that they, as well as
    I, am alert to possible drug interactions, etc.
    
    Last time I had to get reimbursed for over $100 for meds for one
    of my daughters, it took almost two years, and about 1 dozen
    repeat submissions of copies of the Rx and bill, and about 2 dozen
    phone calls.  My "earnings" per hour were, um, low.
    
    	Pennie
1392.5try Express Pharmacy SvcsMAMTS3::GTOPPINGFri Mar 08 1991 14:4011
    Actually, there is another prescription alternative to PCS.
    
    Digital has a deal with a company called Express Pharmacy Services in
    Atlanta, where you mail order your prescriptions and get 90 day's worth
    for $2. This is a real good deal if you need medecine for a chronic
    illness. I have had no "early refill" hassles with them.
    
    It takes a while for delivery, so you need to order well before you
    need it. You can get forms from Personnel.
    
    
1392.6Second vote for Express Pharmacy when availableRHODES::GREENECatmax = Catmax + 1Fri Mar 08 1991 16:1818
    re: .5 and the Express Pharmacy Services
    
    I second that suggestion!  They are great, but you do need to
    plan ahead.  Sometimes they are quick, and sometimes they take
    an extra couple of weeks.  At $2 per 3 month supply, it is much
    better for long term meds (even PCS would cost $18 per 3 months,
    and for those of us with several meds, well even that would add
    up).
    
    On my last Express Pharm shipment, they included a slip with the
    $$$value of my meds (do they always do this and I just missed it
    before, or is this new?), and there were 5 different meds (one
    of which the doctor had warned me was VERY expensive)...for $10,
    I received about $300 worth of medicine.
    
    But there are a small number of medications and/or uses that canNOT
    be filled via Express Pharmacy.  Alas.  (Maybe the Retin-A is another
    one of those.)
1392.7REGENT::GETTYSBob Gettys N1BRM 235-8285Fri Mar 08 1991 21:105
        I'm suprised at the PCS requirement to sign a book. I have NEVER
        had to sign anything on picking up a PCS prescription. And, yes,
        I have gotten prescriptions this year.
                
                /s/     Bob
1392.8ASABET::COHENSat Mar 09 1991 10:1313
    
    	I've had fairly good luck with PCS, but since I have had to
    	move my prescriptions to different pharmacies as I have had
    	to move, I've learned that the individual store's requirements
    	are different.  Some require signeing a book, some require
    	presenting the card, some say,"Nothing to sign.  We know you."
    
    	What does raise a question with me is seeing people from other
    	companies presenting a PCS card and who have their prescriptions
    	filled for $1.00 or $2.00.  Does anyone know if there is an
    	algorithm for these charges or is this strictly a business deal?
    	I'm not complaining -- I'd still prefer paying $12.00/month
    	versus the $100.00+ if I didn't have PCS.  
1392.9Just like any other benefit...SCAACT::AINSLEYLess than 150 kts. is TOO slowSat Mar 09 1991 11:3517
    >	What does raise a question with me is seeing people from other
    >	companies presenting a PCS card and who have their prescriptions
    >	filled for $1.00 or $2.00.  Does anyone know if there is an
    >	algorithm for these charges or is this strictly a business deal?
    
    It's like any other health benefit.  The amount the employee pays
    depends upon the ability/willingness of the company to pay.
    
    Some companies like American Airlines pay 100% of their pilots medical
    insurance premiums.  Other companies don't have anything like PCS.
    I have a friend who recently changed her insurance from an indemnity
    plan to a managed care plan to get a PCS card that has a $5 co-payment.
    She did this because she and her son are on a medication that has
    proven to be effective for their condition.  They will have to take
    it the rest of their lives.  The bad part is that it costs ~$400/month.
    
    Bob
1392.10I'm really iritated with PCSGIAMEM::TOLLESWed Sep 18 1991 15:428
    I'm having a big problem with PCS also.  I went to get a refill for
    Nicorette gum and the pharmacist got a "no refill" also.  My doctor and
    pharmacist both agree with me that this prescription can be refilled
    sooner than what PCS says.  Apparently PCS has made the decision on how
    soon this prescription can be refilled.  They're going against my
    doctor and pharmacist.  I'd like to know where they get the power to
    make this decision on how soon the prescription can be refilled. 
    grrrrrrrrrr