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1341.1 | | BUNYIP::QUODLING | Aussie Licensing Devo | Thu Jan 10 1991 14:24 | 4 |
| Someone has to process all of the "transitions"...
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1341.2 | \ | SONATA::ERVIN | Roots & Wings... | Thu Jan 10 1991 14:39 | 42 |
| Actually, the US Personnel organization is getting much smaller. Long
before the recent LIVEWIRE announcement, (like 18 months ago) the
entire US Personnel organization started the work of right-sizing.
In the old organization, personnel was made up of 3 separate
organizations with 3 vps of personnel reporting to John Sims. There
was a personnel vp for MEM, a personnel vp for the US field and a
personnel vp for SRCOFL (which means Strategic Resources, Corporate
Operations, Finance and Law). In this structure, there were
aproximately twenty some odd iterations of group, area and regional
personnel managers. Plus there were duplicates and redundancies across
the organizations for work being done in compensation, eeo/aa,
benefits, etc.
The 'new' personnel organization is merging the 3 separate personnel
organizations into 1 organization. Instead of having 3 veeps of
personnel reporting to Sims, there is now 1. Instead of having 20 some
odd group personnel managers for the US, there are now 8.
Because the personnel organization is being *totally* restructured, the
positions are being posted as new positions, not replacements. They
can't really be 'replacement' positions because none of the old
positions for the old organization exist anymore. There is a new
organization with newly defined positions. The new organization has
been planned with participation from all the 'old' organizations. This
change is very positive. It has reduced layers of management within
personnel, not added layers. It is unfortunate that the LIVEWIRE
announcement cannot convey all the hard work and planning that went
into this major change. Not only have layers of management been
eliminated, the organization has been engaging in right-sizing for the
past 18 months. Both attrition and TFSO have contributed to the
reduction in staff within US personnel. The total organization has
reviewed the work that they have been doing and have made some
decisions about what work should continue, what work should change, and
what work should cease. Based on this comprehensive evaluation,
decisions were made regarding what jobs would be consolidated or
eliminated.
Does this help to clarify things?
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1341.3 | feeling better now | CVG::THOMPSON | Does your manager know you read Notes? | Thu Jan 10 1991 14:49 | 5 |
| > Does this help to clarify things?
In a word, yes. Thanks. That sounds a lot better.
Alfred
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1341.4 | It LOOKED bad to me too! | VAILSE::MERTZ | | Thu Jan 10 1991 20:16 | 17 |
| Thanks for the explanation in .2.
I thought it very ironic that in addition to the announcement of the involuntary
layoffs there were several announcements for high level management appointments.
If you look at these announcements without any background information, it's
very easy to conclude that hiring, promotions, and empire building continues
unabated in the higher echelons while the bottom of the pyramid is getting
lopped off.
I suspect the situation with most of these announcements is similar to the
one with Personnel, where the jobs that are being filled exist through a
consolidation in the organization, or a re-structuring to enable the
organization to better satisfy its customers. I think it would be VERY helpful
if the LIVEWIRE announcements included some background information which
indicated why and how the new job assignment would benefit the company.
-John
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1341.5 | Where did they go? | GBMMKT::MCMAHON | Carolyn McMahon | Fri Jan 11 1991 08:30 | 11 |
| .2 Very interesting longer term view. Just a couple questions.
- With all that re-org, how did the TOTAL Personnel headcount change?
- If in right-sizing the group down-sized, where did those folks go? Did
the majority of them take the package?
- Did the other 2 VPs take a job level down, take the package or what?
I guess since the layoffs apply to the total company, I'm interested in
the total results of re-orgs, etc.
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1341.6 | most of them out of DEC | WJOUSM::DECAMP | | Fri Jan 11 1991 09:41 | 8 |
| re: .5
I don't have current headcount figures, but when Personnel started the
reorganization, we had approx. 2,500 employees worldwide. The folks
that I know who left the function have left the company and taken line
jobs. As for the number of VP's, I was only aware of 2 and one of them
left the company. The remaining VP is now the VP of Worldwide
Personnel.
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1341.7 | | SONATA::ERVIN | Roots & Wings... | Fri Jan 11 1991 11:41 | 9 |
| The third vp in personnel headed up SRCOFL. So, we used to have 1 vp
for MEM, 1 vp for US Field and 1 vp for SRCOFL. True, one of the
former veeps left the company, and the other sits on the new corporate
staff of the worldwide vp.
As for those in personnel in non-vp jobs, some did take line jobs, a
lot left the company either through TFSO or normal attrition (i.e.
finding a new job someplace else and resigning).
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1341.8 | Sense & No sense? | GBMMKT::MCMAHON | Carolyn McMahon | Sat Jan 12 1991 07:59 | 12 |
| .6 & .7 Thanks for the feedback. So putting it all together, when
Personnel "right-sized" 18 mos. ago, that group's timing was such that
internal jobs were more plentiful than today and the TSFO pkg. was the
best one offered. Guess they were one of the lucky groups compared to
the majority of the company.
But now I'm kind of confused. Since it seemed inevitable that we'd
have to reduce headcount (at least to most real inside and outside
experts), why would we first reduce the size of the group which would
have more work when we reduced headcount (like processing all these
folks out, finding transitions folk's jobs, etc.)??? Somehow this
doesn't make sense to me.
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1341.9 | | GRANPA::TDAVIS | | Sun Jan 13 1991 21:01 | 6 |
| I know of 5 personnel people that left under the second package
in December. All of these people were in the field.Personnel
has gone through a major reorg in the past year. Many of those
who left did not get the first package.
The point that gets me is when do the temps go? Does anyone know?
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