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1327.1 | | LESLIE::LESLIE | Andy Leslie | Tue Jan 01 1991 18:39 | 15 |
| Well, it's all our responsibility to ensure the right thing is done.
The problem that often arises, however, is defining what the right
thing actually is and sometimes understanding that the big picture may
require that there a small picture 'bad thing' may happen.
There is also the conflict of the "good thing" for Digital, your group,
cost centre or yourself, versus the "good thing" for Digital, your
group, cost centre or yourself.
So, in all good faith, we make judgement calls and only experience and
knowlege can assist the process of deciding precisely HOW to ensure
that the right thing is done.
- andy
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1327.2 | small rat-hole | AGENT::LYKENS | Manage business, Lead people | Tue Jan 01 1991 20:31 | 15 |
| Re .0
Another bash to "personnel" and what "they" should be doing.
"Personnel" or Human Resources is another one of those dreaded
"overhead" functions. In the Mid-Atlantic Southern States Region
they are in process of "downsizing" along with Facilities and
other non-revenue producing groups. Be prepared to get less and
less of support from these organizations in the future. My experience
has been nothing short of excellent with both of these groups. They
respond, as do we all, to a cooperative approach as opposed to the
demand approach.
Another point of view...
-Terry
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1327.3 | right intention/thing | PRIMES::ZIMMERMANN | @DCO, Landover MD, 341-2898 | Tue Jan 01 1991 21:23 | 11 |
| re .1
I don't wish to judge what is and what isn't the right thing. It
seems to me that on occasion, actions are taken that don't seem
to be in the best interest of the Corporation, Employee, and/or
Customer. It seems to me that an employee should be able to
determine the rationale used to justify an action. That's all.
Generally, my point is that 'employees' ought not ask others to do
what we ourselves ought to be doing.
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1327.4 | To empower the rest of us, tenderize the power structure | COUNT0::WELSH | What are the FACTS??? | Thu Jan 03 1991 04:10 | 74 |
| re .0:
Very interesting remarks. I couldn't agree more that our problem
is too much control - of a certain kind.
The philosopher Bertrand Russell once wrote that the flowering
of culture and civilization in Ancient Greece was "due to the
relative inefficiency of the police, which allowed a greater
proportion of decent people to escape" (my words). Granted that
Russell was indulging some personal bitterness after being
arrested at an anti-war rally, these words have stayed with me.
Something about the idea rings true.
Now there is certainly something special about Digital. Otherwise
Fortune would hardly have chosen Ken Olsen as the greatest American
entrepreneur ever... quite an accolade!
My perception is that Digital has adapted to changing business
conditions and to global markets - "due to the relative inefficiency
of the bureaucracy". In other words, all real progress and
achievement comes about through the efforts of exceptional
individuals and small teams ("skunkworks"); so the successful
company will be the one which is least successful in preventing
these small unofficial efforts. Because of the continual
disorganization and reorganization, the simmering battle for
credit and visibility among the executives, Digital seems to
"thrive on chaos". This is really the free enterprise credo:
like democracy, it is "absolutely the worst system, except for all
other systems".
However, there are different kinds of control. The control which
many of us would like to see more of is analogous to a forceful
headmaster who prevents teaching staff and older pupils from
bullying the younger pupils. It's little consolation to a victim
of bullying to say "We can't stop the bullies without being
unacceptably authoritarian."
There are many small pointers to be seen which together give me
a big picture: a seething mass of creative work on the part of
the rank-and-file, assisted by a some of the hierarchy of managers.
But on top of this, there is an elaborate structure being built
by other managers, whose real goals seem to have little in common
with the company's mission. Perhaps an appropriate metaphor would
be the court of the French kings at Versailles, in contrast to
the hunger, poverty and wretchedness of everyday life outside.
Indeed, some managers' attitudes seem remarkably close to Marie
Antoinette's famous "Let them eat cake". Like Marie Antoinette,
their dangerous detachment from reality seems to be founded
more or less equally on ignorance and uncaring.
Note 1321.20 (documenting the damaging effects of indiscriminate
headcount freezes on Engineering) among others, shows the sort
of top-level control that is UNDESIRABLE. However, top management
acknowledge this. They have emphasized all along that what we
should have is RIGHTsizing - i.e. dispassionately assessing what
we can and can't afford to do, and shutting down operations that
we can't afford, lock stock and barrel. However, because middle
management seem unable to implement this, we have had DOWNsizing
instead, with apparently random impact. It's been a bit like the
"decimation" the Romans used to punish a guilty legion: every
tenth man was killed. The result is that we have lost some poor,
a lot of average, and some good performers, and all functions
have been handicapped. In my view, if some groups that do not
contribute enought to the business had been disbanded altogether,
there would be enough resources to STRENGTHEN Engineering groups,
instead of weakening them.
When you diet to lose weight, the body gets rid of fat almost
exclusively. If it reacted like Digital, the dieter would shed
tissue from the brain, heart, lungs, arteries, nerves, and bones.
That person would not be my favourite to win either a 100 metre
sprint or a marathon!
/Tom
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1327.5 | the right control | SHIRE::GOLDBLATT | | Fri Jan 04 1991 02:24 | 24 |
| re. -.1
This company is not a country, and that which fosters a healthy country
does not necessarily benefit a private commercial entity.
The best control for a company is that one based on profitability. Within
the envelope of overall profitability, unprofitable activities can be
undertaken as long as they contribute to the overall commercial strategy ie.
profitability through breadth of market share, depth of market share,
ROI, etc.
The account management structure recently adopted by Digital Europe (it's not
clear to me that the U.S. CAM organization is the same), seems to be the
best one to attain the goal of profitability. With this structure in place,
a Digital "New Ventures" division could profitably fund the 'unprofitable'
new ideas. It would work like the banks and other investors that risk
'venture capital', which is the fuel of technical innovation.
The 'uncontrolled' activities of the 'old Digital' were profitable (at least
some of them) because the market was receptive, at that time. It's not
wise to assume that the market for data processing goods and services will
always be so.
David Goldblatt - Europe I.M.
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1327.6 | Good Points! | BOSACT::EARLY | Opportunity Of A Lifetime | Tue Jan 08 1991 22:09 | 52 |
| RE: .0
Some very interesting observations, Paul.
In general, I would like to believe that "the individual", or any group
of people close to a problem could affect change or "do the right
thing" for customers or the company. Despite the fact that I see all
kinds of managerial mouths flapping in the breeze saying "go forth and
be empowered", they don't really mean it.
Personal experiences lead me to believe that the individual or the
group close to the problem will recommend a solution, course of action,
or strategy which will have maximum impact. In the end, the solution or
course of action which gets adopted is, more often than not, the one
that appeases politics. This isn't always true, but the fact that it
happens to the extent I perceive it does does not represent goodness.
In some respects, politics is killing this company.
We invent metrics based on politics, we make decisions based on
politics, we make organizational changes based on politics, etc.
I suppose this shouldn't surprise me ... all big companies do a lot of
things based on politics.
Digital's problem is that we compete with a lot of smaller companies in
some areas (Apollo, Sun, HP, et al.), and that some of the larger
companies we compete with (specifically IBM) frequently make:
o More rational decisions despite politics OR
o Have less politics to deal with because of their small size OR
o Allow politics to exist for a while, but then a decision is
made and everyone "snaps to" (IBM's mode of operation)
I guess my point is that ... if politics didn't play such a major role
in our decision making process, if we made decisions at all levels
based on customer needs and satisfaction, then it wouldn't matter too
much if Ken made the decisions or you made the decisions. If both of
you were dealing with the same pile of information on what was needed,
I have to think that the solutions you would come up with would be
pretty similar. And, if they weren't, I have to believe that one of you
could easily convince the other that your decision was better based on
some additional work experience that the other did not have.
Of course, the other thing that we're missing is that whoever makes the
final decision becomes responsible for the outcome.
I guess it's all too much to hope for.
/se
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1327.7 | Partner | PRIMES::ZIMMERMANN | @DCO, Landover MD, 341-2898 | Tue Jan 08 1991 23:40 | 49 |
| I've let this sit long enough, as I really didn't expect much arguement
from my original note, but .6 makes the point, quite well, in my
opinion.
Doing the right thing is made much easier when the facts are known, when
discussion can be had, when questions are answered. In light of the
assorted comments about the open policy, and the debate as to it's
effectiveness, I have to ask, 'how hard can any "individual" be
expected to push back (or forward) on the system'.
The talk, in this conference, of:
phone calls not returned
real or imagined reprisal
accountability and lack there of
empowerment (?)
propose and do
makes it very difficult, if not impossible, in some instances, to
resolve a conflict.
Speaking for myself, I enjoy eating, I enjoy the prospect of career
advancement, and most importantly, I enjoy working 'with' Digital.
My interpretations of many of Ken's (and Jack's, and others) comments
is I should expect nothing less then satifaction when questioning any
aspect of my career, and maybe even Digital's method of doing business.
But in light of many of the comments in this conference, in light of
many of the discussions I've had with co-workers, and in light of my
own experiences, I feel an employee may have to accept less then
satifaction.
I believe I heard Ken state that 1 dedicated employee plus another
dedicated employee equal much more then 2 employees.
I've recently learned of organizations called partnerships, as they
relate to many of our products (VMS, Ultrix, Case, etc). I wonder if a
Digital Partnership might be an answer to the problem of effective
employee communication/satifaction/inquiry.
What if, a Digital Partnership, i.e. a committee, became an advocate for
an employee, ONLY to determine answers to the employees questions.
What if this could be done, while protecting the anonymity of the
employee. And, what if, this Digital Partnership had the support and
backing of senior management.
What if... any thoughts?
Mark
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