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1274.1 | [Nice] Equipment at home - a perk? | BIGJOE::DMCLURE | BEWARE of earthquakes on Dec. 3rd!!! | Fri Nov 16 1990 17:51 | 33 |
| As with most perks, they should be set up such that the longer you
stay with the company, the better the perks get (sort of like accruing
vacation time), and to really be effective, these perks would be things
that you could *only* get at DEC.
For example, many computer companies allow employees to take home
computer equipment (my wife works at Stratus, and they get their own
extra phone line and have been promised a NeXT personal computer).
Some groups at DEC apparently do allow workstations to go home, but
these cases are few and far between. Typically, the only equipment
you see going home are terminals, modems, and older [obsolete] DEC PCs
(such as the Pro 350 I currently have at home).
Anyway, most any computer company allows its employees to take
home workstations (or at least industry [defacto] standard PC's), so
allowing DEC's valued employees a workstation would simply be a catch-up
manuver to attempt to keep abreast with competitors. What DEC would
then need would be to offer those same valued employees something that
they couldn't likely get anywhere else.
So, what does DEC have that most other company's don't? You guessed
it, a fantastic networking technology! If DEC could just figure out a
way to bring the high speed network to the employee's home, it would
not only tempt the hard-core hackers to stay at DEC, but it would also
draw talented employees from other companies to DEC as well! Fortunately,
much of the ground work for such an idea has already been laid by Dave
Doucette in his "Computer Village" idea (see notes 944.40, 944.43, 944.46,
etc., or send mail to CADSE::DDOUCETTE for more details).
This is but one such idea to tempt talented individuals to stay at
DEC. How about others?
-davo
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1274.2 | simple perk | AGENT::LYKENS | Manage business, Lead people | Fri Nov 16 1990 23:28 | 8 |
| I have a very simple technique I employ as a manager. When someone
does something good I tell them and/or thank them for doing it. I
know it's somewhat simplistic but it sure works for me when someone
tells me once in a awhile, "hey, that was a great idea" or "you
really did good on that one". It also works with peers. If you catch
someone doing good work, tell them.
-Terry {the best perks in life are free}
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1274.3 | $$? | ODIXIE::SILVERS | Sales Support Ninja... | Sat Nov 17 1990 11:47 | 17 |
| How about paying for performance, like we used to... instead of only
offering lip-service to the idea.
Honestly, I like the equipment-at-home idea.. one of my former DM's
(when sales support was still in EIS) once made the comment that
'formal training was well and good, but people in Data Processing
[the software side of computers] are, or should be compulsive learners,
therefore we should give them terminals at home and make all of our
products available on local machines for people who want to learn on
their own time'
Well, he did so - and has since gotten fed up with the company and left
(years ago). Workstations and networking to some homes is just an
expansion of this idea. Also, having a WS at home gets the family
involved (gives the kids a head-start on computing, when the schools
are just now trying to get PC labs).
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1274.4 | good point | XANADU::FLEISCHER | without vision the people perish (381-0899 ZKO3-2/T63) | Mon Nov 19 1990 14:31 | 16 |
| re Note 1274.1 by BIGJOE::DMCLURE:
> So, what does DEC have that most other company's don't? You guessed
> it, a fantastic networking technology! If DEC could just figure out a
> way to bring the high speed network to the employee's home, it would
> not only tempt the hard-core hackers to stay at DEC, but it would also
> draw talented employees from other companies to DEC as well!
This is an important point. Whether for work, learning , or
"play", the computer environment that each of us uses in the
office includes not only the desktop device, but also a good
number of other resources on the network. For most of us, a
disconnected desktop device at home, no matter how
sophisticated, is an impoverished environment.
Bob
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1274.5 | | COOKIE::LENNARD | | Mon Nov 19 1990 17:00 | 6 |
| Any of you folks aware of Jack Smith's recent crackdown on IEG gear???
The situation's gonna get tighter, not better. There has gotta be
some less expensive choices. Like how about a six month sabattical
after 5 years (paid of course). Or how about a year after 10 years.
Now that would interest me!
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1274.6 | BRAVO on .2 and more... | FDCV09::CONLEY | Chuck Conley, DTN 223-9636 | Mon Nov 19 1990 19:28 | 27 |
| Re. (.2)
> I have a very simple technique I employ as a manager. When someone
> does something good I tell them and/or thank them for doing it.
Sometimes it is the little things that have the most impact. I'd
like to see a lot more people use Terry's approach.
On the other hand, it seems to me that some of the things that bug
people the most, could be fixed without great expense. My experience
has been that most professionals want to be productive, and things
that prevent them from being productive are sources of much frustration.
It might be having an office in a bad location, not having the right
hardware or software to do their job, having to deal with another group
that puts their requests at a low priority, not being able to get docu-
mentation when needed, not having the right office furniture, having to
work in an office that's too hot or too cold, or too many meetings!
Digital needs more managers who will listen to their employees, who
will go to bat for them, and will try to go the extra mile to make
life for their people a little more comfortable and make it possible
for them to be a little more productive.
I suggest that people who know that their work is genuinely appreciated,
are going to stay with Digital a lot longer than average!
FWIW,
Chuck
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1274.7 | Foster the Creative Process! | STAFF::ERICKSON | John Erickson, DTN 232-2590 | Tue Nov 20 1990 09:23 | 62 |
| >> I have a very simple technique I employ as a manager. When someone
>> does something good I tell them and/or thank them for doing it.
>
> Sometimes it is the little things that have the most impact. I'd
> like to see a lot more people use Terry's approach.
I second the motion!
> On the other hand, it seems to me that some of the things that bug
> people the most, could be fixed without great expense. My experience
> has been that most professionals want to be productive, and things
> that prevent them from being productive are sources of much
> frustration...
Significant contributors, regardless of position, are motivated
when they perceive that their work "makes a difference" --- when
they see that they are not just a number, but can actually have a
real, measurable impact on the business. The greater the talent,
the greater the requirement that this be so. This is why we have
seen many of our talented employess migrate towards smaller
companies over the years, sometimes even _starting_ these
companies.
This perception alone is _not_ enough. They must _know_ that
they will receive recognition for delivering. Forms of
recognition in my book include the opportunity to make even
_greater_ contributions --- greater exposure to "juicy" problems
--- as well as traditional forms of compensation. The worst
thing in the world is for talented employees to see their
significant contributions pass _without_ receiving recognition.
> It might be having an office in a bad location, not having the right
> hardware or software to do their job, having to deal with another
> group that puts their requests at a low priority, not being able to
> get documentation when needed, not having the right office furniture,
> having to work in an office that's too hot or too cold, or too many
> meetings! Digital needs more managers who will listen to their
> employees, who will go to bat for them, and will try to go the extra
> mile to make life for their people a little more comfortable and make
> it possible for them to be a little more productive.
I agree that the "little things add up", but I think that the
emphasis should be on the manager as a "facilitator." My
supervisor have helped me see that we have a partnership --- I do
the conceptualization, I create the development plans, but I work
_with_them_ to figure out how we'll make it happen. I identify
tools and resources that are required, and I work _with_them_ to
gain access. There are some things that _only_ a CC manager can
do, but there are a _lot_ of things an engineer can do that many
engineers think are Management's responsiblity.
Helping and supporting creative individuals as they strive to "do
the right thing" is one HUGE step that _each_one_ of us can take
towards retaining and inspiring quality employees. It must be
part of the working environment --- one must know that both
Management _and_ one's peers support support significant,
creative contributions.
Have a GREAT one!
John
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1274.8 | A perk should make good business sense | BIGJOE::DMCLURE | BEWARE of earthquakes on Dec. 3rd!!! | Tue Nov 20 1990 10:02 | 43 |
| Here are three good reasons for suggesting Digital Equipment be
installed in the home as a perk:
1. First of all, there is a personal computer revolution going
on made up of primarily of people who have access to high-quality
computing resources in their homes. DEC has yet to really cash in
on this "personal computer" revolution because we have never really
specialized in computers which are very "personal". By learning ways
of bringing our high-speed networks to homes, our network-based products
suddenly become extremely personal. The notion of bringing high-speed
networking capabilities to the home is a new trend in personal computing
that is just beginning - we should make sure we don't have to play
catch-up this time.
2. Secondly, my uncle works for American Airlines, and as such,
he gets a certain amount of free flying time every year for himself
and his immediate family as a perk. I imagine travel agents also get
free vacations, and hotel workers free stays at that hotel as perks also.
Digital Equipment Corporation, on the other hand, is not a travel agency,
nor is it an airline, nor does it own hotels or vacation resorts (although
you might think we did based on the sorts of perks Digital hands out
each year). Digital Equipment Corporation would do better to give away
surplus products that it itself produces as perks. Since Digital is in
the business of producing computer equipment, then Digital should also
give away computer equipment (or at least access to computer equipment)
as perks. There is no better way to sell a given line of products than
to promote the use of those products among ones employees; think of it
as a form of advertising.
3. There is an infinite pool of potential ideas, designs, programs,
and other such digital dreams just waiting to be tapped in our employee
base, but few of Digital's employees earn enough money to be able to
afford computing with Digital Equipment as a hobby. Not only would
employees be able to produce more with better computer equipment at
home, but they would also become much more adept and comfortable with
using computers in the first place if they were able to curl up to a
keyboard in their own home as well. The sooner we recognize the amount
of software (as well as hardware) that is designed and produced in the
study by the proverbial "midnight hacker", the sooner we might realize
the potential that can come from getting good computer equipment and
high-speed network links into the homes of employees.
-davo
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1274.9 | hear, hear!! | MR4DEC::THORGAN | go, lemmings, go | Tue Nov 20 1990 11:25 | 20 |
| re: -.1
Dave, I heartily agree. I've been told by Apple employees that they are
'required' to have 2 Apple computers at home for many of the reasons
you have mentioned. Given the stress and time required to do our daily
work many of us need resources at home where we can learn and push our
understanding of what is possible.
I'd suggest that it doesn't have to be DEC gear, as long as it can
connect to the network. I've learned a great deal playing with 'new'
technology (hypertext, multimedia, etc.) on a lowly Mac plus. I find
that these help push my knowledge of what is possible, as well as help
me communicate better at work. I've also found that being able to
connect to the systems at work creates a very powerful combination.
I second the proposal that DEC make it very easy for people to have
computers and network access from home!!
Tim
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1274.10 | Utilize,Respect,Reward (or Manage Well) | CIMNET::PSMITH | Peter H. Smith,MET-1/K2,291-7592 | Tue Nov 20 1990 23:57 | 16 |
| Well, I've been away from this conference too long. I forget where I put
it, but I had three ideas, related to engineers, and in particular to
engineers returning from the GEEP:
1. UTILIZE them.
2. RESPECT them.
3. REWARD them.
One of the reasons my current job is enjoyable is because my supervisor
goes way out of his way to ask me for my ideas, tell me that he values
my input, and verbally compliment my work. Since I am a bit of a crusty
young toad (not quite an old toad yet), I don't take compliments well, so
he has adapted by passing on compliments from others.
Hmm.. Maybe we can coalesce the three ideas into one: give them good
supervisors/managers...
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1274.11 | Oh yeah, AND DEFINITELY DO 1, 2, and 3 | NCDEL::PEREZ | Just one of the 4 samurai! | Sun Nov 25 1990 00:29 | 21 |
| re -.1:
>Well, I've been away from this conference too long. I forget where I put
>it, but I had three ideas, related to engineers, and in particular to
>engineers returning from the GEEP:
Could we perhaps broaden this a little... some of us out here in the
field didn't get our graduate degrees on GEEP (even though in some
cases we applied). Instead, I invested 3 years of my OWN time to
pursue studies at night and on weekends (for a Masters in Software not
an MBA). And incurred the significant expense of having Digital
consider the training taxable to boot.
> 1. UTILIZE them.
> 2. RESPECT them.
> 3. REWARD them.
I would also like to add one to your list - RIGHT AT THE BEGINNING:
0. RECOGNIZE that they finished.
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1274.12 | Before optimising use of employees, you have to understand them | COUNT0::WELSH | "Availability is not a skill" | Sun Nov 25 1990 07:51 | 74 |
| This could well be the most significant, best-titled topic in
the conference right now.
As I see it, the era of Open Systems spells a tighter, more
competitive market in the 1990s. That means that big, fat
companies like Digital are going to have to deliver much
better ROI (return on investment) - or, in more generic terms,
use their resources much better.
There are a number of ways this can be done. IMHO, the current
stress on trimming obvious expenditures (bottled water,
manufacturing plants, Wall St Journals, consultants with 15 years'
experience) is much too superficial. As many others have pointed
out, if you shave with a machete, you just might cut an artery.
Number one, for me, is FOCUS. We must identify what Digital does
really well, and focus on doing that. This implies sloughing off
whole lumps of the business which we don't do particularly well.
As a software/consultancy specialist, I am prone to wonder if
"manufacturing computers" might not be one of those lumps. Even
if it is most of the business at present.
Now Digital has always been a "product oriented" company. We
tend to start by saying "wouldn't it be neat if...?" ("...we
built a 32-bit computer", "...we had a relational database", etc)
Rather than "let's find out what the customers want", or "let's
find out what the market would like"). Also, we seem to be fairly
bad at saying "what skills do we actually have, and what could we
best do to exploit those skills?"
At least, I think we are bad at it, because as far as I can see
senior and even middle management does not even know what quality
employees we have. I keep on hearing that "our people are our
greatest resource", yet there are hardly any inventories or lists
of what people we have, which of them are good at what, etc. Instead,
this sort of thing is done ad hoc by Notes inquiries, informal
networks, etc.
Who are the top 10 UNIX experts in the region? How many people
know about databases and how to use PCs? Who has project experiences,
understands performance evaluation, and knows Ada? Who are our best
six public speakers? Who produces the best presentations?
It would make sense, wouldn't it, to find who is the presentation
king, and get him (or her) to run up some standard presentations -
and maintain them? It probably won't happen at the moment, because
any such work would be "moonlighting" and would impact his *official*
work. How many useful tools and materials do you know of that
started out as unofficial, unfunded "hacks"? (Well, Notes for a
start).
Maybe we need rather fewer people, rather better paid, better
supported with tools and equipment, and far better appreciated,
understood and borne in mind by management. We could begin to
accomplish this if managers took two simple steps to change their
way of working:
(1) Spend far less time in unproductive meetings trying to reach
consensus; this could be accomplished by some senior managers
taking responsibility for making decisions.
(2) Use some of the time thus released to "manage by walking about"
and SEE how our people are working. Which ones are doing far
more than required. Which ones are passengers or self-seeking.
Where there are bottlenecks which could strangle the successful
application of our resources to our business. Remove those
bottlenecks, whether they are bad managers, lack of equipment,
lack of car phones, lack of storage space or secretarial
support, intrusive telephones, not enough exposure to
customers, or whatever.
/Tom
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1274.13 | Digital doesn't "tax" you. | BABBLE::MEAGHER | | Sun Nov 25 1990 15:19 | 11 |
| From < Note 1274.11 >
>>> Instead, I invested 3 years of my OWN time to
>>> pursue studies at night and on weekends (for a Masters in Software not
>>> an MBA). And incurred the significant expense of having Digital
>>> consider the training taxable to boot.
Don't blame Digital for the additional taxes. Digital has to follow U.S. tax
law, which considers benefits like this taxable income.
Vicki Meagher
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1274.14 | Point was, don't just limit things to GEEP people | NCDEL::PEREZ | Just one of the 4 samurai! | Mon Nov 26 1990 00:42 | 19 |
| >Don't blame Digital for the additional taxes. Digital has to follow U.S. tax
>law, which considers benefits like this taxable income.
Well, its a tangent from the point I was attempting to make, but...
I'm not sure your statement is valid. Yes, Digital has to "follow
U.S. tax law", BUT that tax law appears VERY open to interpretation by
a company.
It appears that Digital made the decision that a software specialist
obtaining a graduate degree in Software that is immediately applicable
to the specialist's job, and most definitely does NOT provide training
for a job change to an unrelated job is career related and therefore
taxable. However, at the same time company X has a person with a
psychology undergraduate degree, working in PERSONNEL, that obtains a
graduate degree in Organizational Studies (note the relationship
between these three things is nebulous at BEST?) and FINDS THE GRADUATE
SCHOOL TO BE "HIGHLY JOB RELATED" and therefore NOT taxable...
Now what was that about "tax" law?
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1274.15 | How proud are you to wear the digital badge? | TOOK::DMCLURE | BEWARE of earthquakes on Dec. 3rd!!! | Fri Nov 30 1990 02:24 | 63 |
| Getting back to the original goal here of retaining quality people,
obviously, we could always offer bonuses (my wife works at Stratus and
recently recieved a $200 bonus for a "night out on the town" which we
used to purchase two three-day passes to Disneyworld last spring), but
bonuses cost money, and obviously Digital is a little short in that
department right now.
Handing out money is easy for a company that can afford to do so.
There are some things that can't always be bought though: pride for example.
There are things other than money which can instill pride in a person.
I know this sounds corny, but how many people were ever a boy or girl
scout? Do you recall ever spending alot of time and effort earning a
badge for anything? What about those in the military? Do any of those
badges mean anything to people? Of course they mean something to the
people who work hard to earn them. Here's a case where a little two
dollar badge might be worth more than a $200 "night out on the town"
(if people were to place some value in that badge).
Diplomas are based on the same principle - how much does it cost to
print a diploma? In ESDP they hand out engraved wooden plaques every
year for things (I think diplomas would be much much cheaper). The
problem with these sorts of awards however, is that people are usually
too modest to ever display such a thing voluntarily. Hell, I just spent
four years beating my head in at night school to earn a Harvard diploma
in Software Engineering, but after listening to some of the people in
this notesfile, I'm too embarrassed to display the damn thing in my office
like I thought I might do someday. The point being that unless there is
something to force you to display such an award, then it might instead
end up buried under a pile of paperwork (like my diploma), or collecting
dust on a shelf, etc.
On the other hand, badges work for people in scouting and/or the
military because they are a part of a uniform which everyone is forced
to wear, and since wearing the badge is not voluntary, then there is no
longer any room for such false modesty. One is expected to display such
a badge, and as such, it is easier for people to experience the pride
associated with that badge.
So, how does all of this effect us as Digital employees? How can
we instill pride in our workforce inexpensively? What about our klunky
old Digital badges? Think about your Digital badge for a minute: how many
years has it been since you had it issued to you? Now count how many
people actually display the things at work like we are all supposed to do?
Hardly anyone I know unless they are maybe visiting an unfamiliar site
and/or they want people to know their name or something. You can hardly
blame people for this, after all, no company in this industry ever has a
badge that's worth wearing, and that's why nobody ever wears their badges!
On the other hand, if people had a reason to show off their badge
(and perhaps if they were modernized a bit and made to be worn easier -
instead of klunking around), then I would bet that people might feel a
little bit better about displaying them. Couple this with a special new
Digital recognition program which could be put into place to "upgrade"
an employee's badge in return for putting in that extra effort at work.
There could be different types of badge upgrades for different types of
awards (Bronze, Silver, or Gold colored, etc.). There might even be a
special "Corporate" badge upgrade for those who do things that benefit
the whole corporation (as opposed to being cost center based - as are
most awards). It could be done fairly cheaply (compared to other existing
award recognition programs), and could even solve the problem of people
not displaying their badges at work.
-davo
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1274.16 | | LESLIE::LESLIE | Andy, NEW B1/2-5, DTN 774 6230 | Fri Nov 30 1990 03:12 | 1 |
| Brilliant idea! Send that to Jack asap!
|
1274.17 | Distinctive badges are an official non-goal | TLE::AMARTIN | Alan H. Martin | Fri Nov 30 1990 08:37 | 26 |
| Re .15,.16:
"
Employee Photo Identification Badge Policy Effective: 26-AUG-85
Section: 8.01
Practice
Requirements
Each employee will be issued one standard photo identification
badge unless otherwise defined by local law, customs or safety
standards. The badge may not be defaced in any manner, e.g., logos,
pictures, or drawings.
"
By '85 some groups had distributed small decorations to glue on badges. One
example is the sailboat logo that LCG employees received in Marlboro. Several
sites (e.g. Hudson Mass's semiconductor facility) issued their badges with
distinctive card stock containing the plant's logo. I think HL1 had a display
case with examples from a wide variety of sites.
It is likely that the above policy was enacted in '85 in full knowledge of the
fact that sites and groups were distinguishing their badges. What has changed
about the corporation since 1985 which will make it more desirous of building
morale by trading off of rock-solid uniformity of badges? (The stock price?)
/AHM
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1274.18 | Like a license plate with two stickers (Corporate & Group) | BIGJOE::DMCLURE | BEWARE of earthquakes on Dec. 3rd!!! | Fri Nov 30 1990 11:03 | 40 |
| re: .16,
Thanks, but as Alan pointed out in reply #1274.17, the idea will
first need a little polish in order to fall under corporate guidelines
(as well as to satisfy the stated goal). As such, an "upgraded" digital
badge would ideally need to satisfy a list of requirements such as:
1. The digital badge must be attractive and must be designed to
be easily worn/displayed on a wide variety of clothing without
"klunking" around and making a nuisance of itself, or otherwise
people will never bother to wear/display them.
2. The primary purpose of the digital badge must still be for
security/identification purposes complete with a photo id
and badge number prominantly displayed (perhaps the digital
badge could even be magnetically encoded to replace the "NCS"
card currently also carried by many people).
3. In an effort to instill pride in the workforce, a given portion
of the digital badge (perhaps the bottom extending downwards)
could also be designated for [standardized] award recognition
add-ons of some sort (this is where the creative ideas are needed
to elaborate on how this might work). An alternative to award
recognition add-ons would be to reissue a new digital badge for
each award, but this could prove to be more costly if new photos
and possibly even magnetic card info (if this were to ever be
added as well) would need to be recreated each time (not to
mention the logistics involved in reissuing badges for each and
every award given).
So, how might such a badge be designed? What sort of shape
would meet the above requirements? What other requirements might
be needed? What if a badge were treated like a license plate?
After all, you only get a new plate once in a blue moon, but you
get a new sticker for it each year. Perhaps each badge could have
room for two such stickers: one for Local group awards, and one for
Corporate awards (this is consistent with the "big bag, little bag"
idea I once learned in a quality course taught by our own Russ Doane).
-davo
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1274.19 | | SUPER::HENDRICKS | The only way out is through | Fri Nov 30 1990 15:18 | 2 |
| I bet if Jack Smith liked the idea, he has sufficient clout to get the
badge policy changed....;-)
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1274.20 | | XANADU::FLEISCHER | without vision the people perish (381-0899 ZKO3-2/T63) | Fri Nov 30 1990 16:55 | 11 |
| re Note 1274.17 by TLE::AMARTIN:
> The badge may not be defaced in any manner, e.g., logos,
> pictures, or drawings.
You mean like those silly embroidered stick-ons that look
like a broken pair of glasses?
(Which, ironically I realized later, meant "six sigma".)
Bob
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1274.21 | | MU::PORTER | 892,038,479 | Sun Dec 02 1990 22:51 | 12 |
| re .15
You're joking of course? Any pride or otherwise that I might
feel in my work or my employer has nothing whatsover to do with
the design of my badge. I tend to value a few other things
a little more highly, like the quality of software (I'm a software
engineer) that the company's producing, and the environment
in which I work.
In fact, I couldn't give a <expletive deleted> what the
badge looks like, 'cept I prefer one without my photo
on it, thank you very much.
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1274.22 | | TOTH::PREVIDI | | Mon Dec 03 1990 09:49 | 13 |
|
"I don` need no steenkin` bodge!"
;-)
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1274.23 | The "badge upgrade" is only a side effect of the proposal... | BIGJOE::DMCLURE | DEC is a notesfile | Mon Dec 03 1990 14:29 | 25 |
| re: .21,
You apparently missed the main point behind the badge proposal,
which was to provide a new *and inexpensive* type of award recognition
program based on a new employee badge which would be equipped with two
[empty] boxes along the bottom which could later be filled with both
a "Corporate", as well as a "Group" award sticker. Such a program
would cost next to nothing, yet it would provide managers, as well as
peers a means of rewarding their fellow employees for above-and-beyond
efforts, and would also hopefully ingender a new sense of pride in
the workplace, as well as a motivation to achieve.
Instead, you apparently picked-up on one of the two side effects of
the program: the "badge upgrade" (which would be neccesary to facilitate
the award stickers and which is needed anyway since most badges are
pretty worn out these days). The other side effect being that such
a program might tend to increase the amount of badges being worn/
displayed during work (and therefore improve security).
-davo
p.s. I've been working out the details of exactly how the award program
might work, and I will enter another, slightly more refined version of
the proposal at a later date. In the meantime, I would hope that all
of you quality folks out there keep the faith and stay with DEC! ;^)
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1274.24 | Even inexpensive awards can be worthless | NEWVAX::PAVLICEK | Zot, the Ethical Hacker | Mon Dec 03 1990 15:38 | 28 |
| The problem with "inexpensive" reward proposals is that even they can
be a waste of money if they are not administered appropriately.
We used to have a quarterly award program (administered by the Area,
selection made by Districts and Units) which included the following
items:
1. An off-site group lunch for the winners
2. A small plaque
3. A keyring
4. A pin
5. Your name and a write-up placed in a little newsletter which
was distributed to the Area.
The program was reasonably effective at first -- people felt they were
being recognized for good work. Unfortunately, this didn't last long.
By the time the program was discontinued, many people had developed an
attitude of "I guess this month was MY TURN to win". Many people
selected felt that they did nothing to deserve the award that month,
and found that the write-up cited successes of two quarters ago.
Recognition programs are valuable if and only if they are administered
properly. Be it a sticker on a badge or a trip to Hawaii, an award is
worthless if it is not administered correctly.
Just an observation.
-- Russ
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1274.25 | There must be a reward for degrees, eventually | WORDY::JONG | Steve | Tue Dec 04 1990 12:43 | 15 |
| I think DaveO's idea is excellent. I've seen similar things at Digital
and elsewhere. People add the little sticky things to their badges;
that's evidence enough for me that they appreciate them.
Returning to the subject of rewarding GEEP and other graduates: It's
only logical that if an employee earns a degree in a work-related
subject, that employee is going to do a better job in the long term.
It doesn't mean the employee should get an immediate raise, but over
time the work should improve and expand. Therefore, job plans and
salary plans should be adjusted accordingly.
You might not be getting the immediate feedback you expect, but you
certainly should be getting it two or three years later. If not, I
think something is broken. If employees who earn degrees are not more
valuable than those who don't, then why are we paying for the degrees?
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1274.26 | THE REAL REWARD IS A JOB | FSADMN::ELDRIDGE | | Tue Dec 04 1990 12:52 | 23 |
| I am not trying to knock the reward proposals but, I am a overall "2"
performer for the last 14 years, Saved Digital Millions in contract
dollars, Level 39 Manager, 20 Year Vet from the USAF, less than 6
months to retirement age of 55, and now on the Management Selected TFSO
list. I will be unemployed on Dec 14, 1990.
I have Key chains, 85 letters of commendation from Senior Digital
Managers, and awards hanging on the wall. Bottom Line for all of the
above outstanding performance is I will be unemployed on Dec 14, 1990.
At Age 55 what I really want is my JOB.... and not a bunch of tokens.
Does it sound like I am upset. You are right. When I leave the
building next Tuesday will I look back at all "2's" and above. Hell
No. And then I read in the Notes file about people complaining that
they didn't get a chance at TFSO. They can have my slot, I enjoy
working for Digital.
Regards
Frustrated
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1274.27 | Announcing the BIGJOE::ATTAJOB notesfile...(press KP7) | BIGJOE::DMCLURE | DEC is a notesfile | Tue Dec 04 1990 19:45 | 31 |
| The more I think about it, the more I must remind myself that
even though the badge sticker idea would ideally end up being far less
expensive than the typical "boondoggle" reward program, in its present
state, it would still unfortunately need to be categorized as being
a "cost-generating" measure (as opposed to a cost-saving measure). As
such, I doubt whether such a proposal would recieve too much attention
from the executive committee (in the immediate future anyway).
This leads me to wonder whether we couldn't proceed with a "free"
version of the program in the meantime which might merely consist of
collecting the various atta-boys and atta-girls (attajobs) which might
then be used in such a sticker program at a later date. What if people
were to enter their respective atta-boys and atta-girls into a dedicated
notesfile somewhere, and then at the end of the year next year, we could
then see if enough extra money existed to actually print-up the resulting
"attaward" stickers (and possibly also undergo an actual badge upgrade
as well if need be)?
Oh well, what the hell, I'll start a notesfile and post some rules
on how to enter your "attajob" notes, and then we'll worry about what
to do about awards later (if nothing else, the mere ability to post an
"attajob" in a notesfile somewhere might help boost a little moral).
Press KP7 to add BIGJOE::ATTAJOB to your notebook...
-davo
p.s. One positive side effect of using a public notesfile to store such
atta-boys/atta-girls (attajobs) would be that people might not feel
quite so free to take credit for the work of others (since each
"attajob" would be posted in a public forum).
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1274.28 | Like any other big impersonal corporate entity | SVBEV::VECRUMBA | Do the right thing! | Wed Dec 05 1990 21:41 | 32 |
|
re .26
Excuse me, but I think there is something seriously wrong (for Digital)
in this picture.
I know that the organizational pendulum has been decidedly swinging in
the "anti-central" direction. But aren't we starting to throw out babies
with the bath water?
Bob's right. All the trinkets in the world don't mean a thing if Digital
"isn't there" for an employee when the rubber hits the road, when the
employee's always "been there" for Digital. What was Pat Sweeney's note
from a few weeks ago? A "Crisis in Face-to-Face Communications?"
Down-sizing, right-sizing (a euphamism if I ever saw one), buy-outs
(suitably acronymed) , "where do I volunteer for a buy-out?"...
The crisis is that we've become impersonal. And when that happens,
politics -- with its self-protection and self-aggrandizement -- is
all that's left.
I just hope that when this "right-sizing" is over that there are enough
people left from when Digital was a "personal" and "personable" place to
work to pull us up out of the ashes. Bob, my sincerest wishes that come
Monday, December 17th, you'll still be at Digital. It certainly doesn't
look like ALF is a good location to be these days.
Best regards,
Peters
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1274.30 | Some Folks do care | CSCOAC::ELDRIDGE_B | | Thu Dec 06 1990 09:21 | 9 |
| Thanks Peters, I hope so too.
Regards
Bob
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1274.31 | All the more reason to display achievements on-line! | BIGJOE::DMCLURE | DEC is a notesfile | Thu Dec 06 1990 10:42 | 19 |
| re: .26,
Sounds like you're exactly the sort of employee we really need
to retain around here. The problem with all those awards on your
wall is that only someone who steps into your office will ever see
them. The problem with all those letters of recommendation is that
only you (and your filing cabinet) have access to them.
What you need is a place where you can display all of those
achievements where the whole corporation can see them; a place which
is on-line and easily accessible. What you need is to display those
achievements in the BIGJOE::ATTAJOB notesfile! Quick! Do not delay!
Press KP7, open the notesfile, write a basenote for yourself, and
start entering those letters as ATTAJOBs!
-davo
p.s. Who knows, maybe someone will recognize those talents in time to
offer you another job within Digital. It's worth a try eh?
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1274.32 | Good Idea | CSCOAC::ELDRIDGE_B | | Thu Dec 06 1990 11:13 | 9 |
| Thanks for the tip.
Regards
Bob
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1274.33 | No more trinkets, please | BOLT::MINOW | Cheap, fast, good; choose two | Fri Dec 07 1990 13:51 | 5 |
| Instead of certificates and trinkets, why not follow the suggestion
of the head of Bell Labs, who rewards folk with books and candy bars
(including 10 lb chocolate bars for extra-special rewards).
Martin.
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1274.34 | | MU::PORTER | MU is dead - long live MU! | Fri Dec 07 1990 17:54 | 4 |
| >who rewards folk with books and candy bars
Good idea. Can I have a one-year subscription to
the DEC Tech Journal instead of a book, though?
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1274.35 | | SUPER::HENDRICKS | The only way out is through | Sun Dec 09 1990 10:49 | 4 |
| Candy bars! A quick way to do in your diabetic, hypoglycemic, and
sugar sensitive employees. Ouch.
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1274.36 | | LESLIE::LESLIE | Andy Leslie | Sun Dec 09 1990 15:46 | 1 |
| The DTJ has far fewer calories....:-)
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1274.37 | | BLUMON::QUODLING | Another year older, and deeper in debt... | Sun Dec 09 1990 21:28 | 11 |
| re .36
And is far too chewy around the binding...
re .34/35
Yeah, and if we gave people flowers someone would say we were being unfair
to those with pollen allergies, and so on and so forth....
q
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1274.38 | | SUPER::HENDRICKS | The only way out is through | Sun Dec 09 1990 23:40 | 4 |
| Others may differ, but the certificates and awards on my office wall
feel much healthier to me ;-)
(I know it's the thought that counts.)
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