Conference 7.286::digital

    no review of management by subordinates

    
    NO DRUG ABUSE TOLERATED.

    
    C'mon people, all that stuff has _always_ been blacklisted. Lets's get
    some current, trendy taboos that we can look back on with amusement
    5 years from now...
    
    
    no bottled water
    
    no Wall Street Journal
    
    no business class international flights
    
    no single-sided, one-up copies
    
    no stovepipes
    
    no porches
    

    
    .....no serious attempt to deal with a bloated management structure.
    
    .....no willingness to admit we may have STB on the 9000.
    
    .....BTW we do have a form of commission system for the Sales Force.
         I believe they can get up to 18K a year in bonus'.
    
    .....No broad-based profit sharing or stock distribution plans.

    .. no real 'satisfaction surveys', instead we Dial For Tens
    
    karl

    OK, I give "what does STB on the 9000 mean" 
    
    -Ken

re: 1209.3
    
>    no porches

Make that Porsches

>    OK, I give "what does STB on the 9000 mean" 

Trust me, you don't want him to fully expand the acronym here.
				/AHM

    Re porches/porsches. Pity about the explanation. I was just enjoying
    the idea of an olde worlde porch, covered in honeysuckle, tastefully
    covering the consol on the 9000. Shame.
    
    Mike Day
    

    
    Not "Porsches". I really meant "porches".
    
    A while back we heard a lot of flap about stovepipes. Now there's a
    new memo floating about, complaining about engineering groups having
    porches. It seems that all the people who are supposed to be
    developing the products we sell, are really goofing off with home
    improvement projects. (Either that, or creating buzzwords for business
    inefficiencies.)
    

	... so what's "TB"???  "FB" I could see as "For Brains"! :>)  This is
a new TLA for those of us distanced from Engineering, obviously.

	Oh, to add to the taboos:

	No plants not nourished by mother earth itself!

    
    
    No "Good"  sales forecasts to manufacturing on hardware demand. The mix
    is off.
    
    Though there's a corporate goal of "ROI", There's no goal to win
    market-share.
    
    Rick
    

But why have we STB with the 9000? Please say it ain't so...

-Glenn-

    No mileage reimbursement on less than 50 miles a shot.
    
    (Whose idea was it to spread the "Home office" all over tarnation
    anyway!  Wasn't part of our agreement to scurry all around the
    countryside that we'd at least be reimbursed for the cost of it - ALL
    the cost for ALL the miles the tax laws would allow, anyway?)

    BTW, STB=Sunk_The_Boat, IMO. (but not w/ the 9000)

No writing operating systems in other than assembly languages.

Software not invented here is a toy.

Martin.

    Sorry about the "STB".  Guess most of you have figured it out by now.
    
    I was involved in one aspect of planning for the 9000, and was uncom-
    fortable from Day One with the super optimistic forecasts.  But, even
    then, it wasn't so much the forecasts that bothered me, as our
    publically placing such heavy reliance on the 9000 to turn things
    around financially for the Corporation.  I swear we'll never learn.
    
    We could not have understood the market or the competition and been
    so optimistic.

re Note 1209.17 by COOKIE::LENNARD:

>     then, it wasn't so much the forecasts that bothered me, as our
>     publicly placing such heavy reliance on the 9000 to turn things
>     around financially for the Corporation.  I swear we'll never learn.

        We are pushed towards heavy reliance on the 9000 by another
        set of our taboos:  we can't make money in the low end, we
        can't sell something for under $500, we can't sell products
        through retail, we can't advertise to the general public, we
        can't sell applications ....

        Hey, after all that, what's left but the really big systems
        and networks?

        Bob

RE: .16

>No writing operating systems in other than assembly languages.

This one is a couple of years old.  The error of that way has been seen and
the taboo is gone.


>Software not invented here is a toy.

On the VMS side of the house.  In OSG, the converse taboo exists:  nothing we
build ourselves can possibly be any good or succeed in the marketplace.

--PSW

    Re: .18
    
    >    Hey, after all that, what's left but the really big systems
    >    and networks?
    
    
    Software.  After all, that's where we're making money nowadays.
    
    But don't write off the 9000 so soon.  Given the activity I've seen
    on it from customers, it will be a serious contributor.
    
    					Steve
    

    Re: Porches
    
    This may refer to the Jack Smith speech about tearing down his porch,
    painful to do but necessary.

    Reply to .1
    
    >no review of management by subordinates
    
    This happens in only two forms of endeavor:
    
    	Education-(at the college level) where students have an opportunity
    	to evaluate the instructor.
    
    	Politics- where voters can respond at the polls on a periodic
    	basis.  
    
    	There is a third unstructured method- revolution, but that is in
    	the extreme.
    
    Regarding .3
    
    > no stove pipes.
    
    I just left an organization which has raised stovepiping to an art
    form:  the stovepipe is absolute, Digital a very different second,
    thought for the customer non-existent.
    
    Another taboo- criticism of Digital in the PC market.  Any good MBA
    would dump this loser.