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Conference 7.286::digital

Title:The Digital way of working
Moderator:QUARK::LIONELON
Created:Fri Feb 14 1986
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:5321
Total number of notes:139771

1194.0. "Early Retirement Plan???" by CIMAMT::ZEREGA () Thu Sep 20 1990 15:14

    	Well now, w/this new pkg, there has been no mention of an Early
    Retirement Plan.   The plan that has been rumored from time to time is
    one that would add 5 yrs to your service time and 5 yrs to your age for
    purposes of figuring benefits.   What is the feeling about the
    likelihood of such a plan or (a variation on that theme)  ever being
    offered at Digital (there are precedents in IBM,Polaroid, AT&T etc.)
        So whaddya think??  mebbe yes ,mebbe no, mebbe/mebbe??
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1194.1COOKIE::LENNARDMon Sep 24 1990 13:464
    I heard Smith comment a few months back that they had looked into it,
    but had determined that there weren't enough old farts to make such
    a plan effective.  I gotta believe him, but sure wish they'd do it
    anyhow.  I'd be first in line!
1194.2Digital Caribbean has it now!TROPIC::BELDINPull us together, not apartTue Sep 25 1990 08:2912
    We have used early retirement here in Caribbean Operations twice
    as part of the resizing effort.  Both times it was approximately
    as described in .0.  The difference is that our normal attrition
    rate in Puerto Rico is much lower than the U.S. average.  During
    the last round, of ~275 eligible, less than 150 accepted early
    retirement.   I decided I was enjoying work to much to give it up
    yet.  Others retired, and then quickly went looking for work somewhere
    else.
    
    Regards,
    
    Dick
1194.3Retire with PDP's ?BEAGLE::BREICHNERTue Sep 25 1990 11:2218
    People in DEC have matured, so have products.
    Neither want to be/ can be retired now.
    Assuming that the mature products need to run/be supported for
    another 10 to 15 years or so, so may a lot of old-timers be really
    ready for retirement in 10 to 15 years.
    Given that support of the mature products is costeffective when
    done by the right people AND there is now too many people
    in the "NEW" DEC, a solution might be to offer this kind of
    support business (which doesn't fit the "NEW" DEC) instead
    of monetary "packages".
    However, I really don't know which "employee profile" is
    the target for "packages". 
    So far, from the little I've found out, it seems that the
    unfamous packages are rather aimed at jobs and then hit
    the unfortunate (or fortunate) job-holder regardless of
    his/her actual or potential value to the company. 
    
    fred, a "mature" DECie (not yet an "old fart")
1194.4Formula & age make the differenceDONVAN::BWALKERTue Oct 02 1990 13:1916
    An Early Retirement from DEC requires that you be 55 years old with 
    10 years service.

    If you applied the .0 formula 5+5+$, anyone who is 50 with 5 years 
    would be eligible - makes them 55 w/10 years (on the books).

    Given that, I would think that they would come up with a big enough 
    number to be able to offer the package.  Even if 55% of those eligible 
    took it (like in Puerto Rico) it would probably still be a substantial 
    number. Here, state side there would probably be 80% takers.
     
    Say, ...3000 to 4000 thousand ???   But I am sure they got all the
    numbers and the possibilities figured out.