| T.R | Title | User | Personal
Name | Date | Lines |
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| 1158.1 | security is everyone's job | SA1794::CHARBONND | in the dark the innocent can't see | Thu Aug 16 1990 15:11 | 3 |
| Unless ZKO's Security is out to lunch, there are no unescorted
visitors in the plant to begin with. You *do* keep an eye on
*your* visitors, right ?
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| 1158.2 | Lips and ships | CSG002::MAKSIN | Joe Maksin 291-0378 PDM1-2/H4 | Fri Aug 17 1990 08:13 | 9 |
| Any substantiated instance where, for example, copies of Sales
Update, Competitive Update, ..., have shown up in the hands of
customers, competitors, ..., etc.?
What would happen if LRP, Yellow Book, ... Red Book information
were not closely controlled? I agree with Howard -- would Digital
become strategic damaged or even worst ...
Joe
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| 1158.3 | Security *IS* everyone's responsiblity | MEMORY::SLUZENSKI | | Fri Aug 17 1990 10:03 | 7 |
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Badges must be displayed by all employees entering the Shrewsbury
Research Library. The library is never left unattended. No visitor is
able to enter to the library (or anywhere else in DEC for that matter)
without being escorted by a DEC employee. *It is the responsibility of
the employee who is escorting the visitor to make sure that person is
not "running off with company secrets".*
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| 1158.4 | Not in ZKO | CHESS::KAIKOW | | Fri Aug 17 1990 15:34 | 8 |
| re: 1158.1
> Unless ZKO's Security is out to lunch, there are no unescorted
> visitors in the plant to begin with. You *do* keep an eye on
> *your* visitors, right ?
I guess you haven't been up to ZKO. Visitors are not watched here.
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| 1158.5 | | PSW::WINALSKI | Careful with that VAX, Eugene | Fri Aug 17 1990 17:59 | 10 |
| RE: .4
Not by everybody, perhaps. *I* always watch visitors that I bring in.
I don't see any need for new corporate policies in this area. I do see a need
for a complaint to ZKO Security and the ZKO Library about this particular
problem.
--PSW
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| 1158.6 | | RBW::WICKERT | MAA USIS Consultant | Fri Aug 17 1990 18:01 | 10 |
|
You guys would be amazed at how many Sales Updates (sometimes even
Competative Update!) end up in the customer's hands. Of course,
sometimes the Sales Reps will "white-out" the author's name...
Maybe it doesn't happen as much anymore but it certainly did several
years ago.
-Ray
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| 1158.7 | | MU::PORTER | EH? | Sat Aug 18 1990 23:52 | 9 |
| re .2
"What would happen if LRP [...] information were not closely
controlled?"
Oh, probably no more effect than publishing any other work
of fiction!
:-)
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| 1158.8 | | LESLIE::LESLIE | Eponymous VAX | Sun Aug 19 1990 14:12 | 7 |
| Any visitors hosted by my group in ZK are escoreted at all times. If
you know of instances when (non-DEC) visitors have gone unescorted
around ZK, notify the Facility Manager, COrporate Security and the host
group manager if you know their identity.
/andy/
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| 1158.9 | I already dood it | CHESS::KAIKOW | | Mon Aug 20 1990 12:08 | 9 |
| re: 1158.5
>I do see a need
>for a complaint to ZKO Security and the ZKO Library about this particular
>problem.
What me complain?
It was the first thing I did when I saw the situation.
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| 1158.10 | I don't think this is the "right" thing" | SALISH::EVANS_BR | | Mon Aug 20 1990 20:33 | 26 |
| re: "substantiated examples of Sales Updates in Customers hands..."
Hate to say this, but every project I've been on does this... mails
them straight into customer shops -- the mailing label usually shows
Employee name, and DEC address, but everyone at local office knows
employee is on-site for the next year (or whatever), and so forwards it
to the project secretary who then puts it into the mailbox for the
employee (or employee visits office, and collects mail, and takes it to
project, since they haven't a desk in the office!!!)
If lucky, they can lock it in their on-site desk. 80% of the time,
they cannot, since it's on site, and that would evoke mistrust to our
customer. Only one project did the unit manager actually say "bring
them to the office, and we will store them for you", but that lasted
about 2 months... Also, most on-sites are at least 1/2 hr drive
(one-way) between office and site. Which means one cannot just go get
mail just any-old-time...or take it back...
So, here you are, reading about confidential stuff, and the customer
has direct access to it all.... sigh.
Well, until either the employee has a DEC proprietary spot on-site, or
better access to the office, Digital can expect those confidential
things to all end up in customer hands...
Bruce Evans
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| 1158.11 | Home sweet home | CHESS::KAIKOW | | Tue Aug 21 1990 05:39 | 7 |
| re: 1158.10
Why not mail it to the employee's residence in the circumstances cited?
It would be grounds for divorce, if a spouse (or significant other) would open
the mail. Children would not open it as you would merely have to threaten to
take away TV, telephone and/or car privileges (depending upon their age group).
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