| T.R | Title | User | Personal Name
 | Date | Lines | 
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| 850.1 | Any blackout periods? | SVBEV::VECRUMBA | Infinitely deep bag of tricks | Mon Jul 03 1989 14:54 | 5 | 
|  | 
    Do any black-out periods apply to these new rates? The current (old)
    AVIS rate is blacked out in New York City starting at 1:00 pm on Fridays.
    /Peters
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| 850.2 | Who pays when I damage it on PERSONAL business? | HPSCAD::FORTMILLER | Ed Fortmiller, MRO1-3, 297-4160 | Wed Jul 05 1989 09:12 | 3 | 
|  |     So if I damage a vehicle while renting it for PERSONAL use and
    have taken the CDW who pays for the damage?  DEC, DEC's insurance
    company, the rental company?
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| 850.3 | Don't leave yourself uncovered | SVBEV::VECRUMBA | Infinitely deep bag of tricks | Wed Jul 05 1989 10:11 | 22 | 
|  | 
    re .2
    The only thing that's changed is that mileage is no longer unlimited.
    Digital always covered the "optional" (CDW, etc.) coverage. In fact, if
    you've rented from AVIS, you'll notice that all the "declined" boxes
    come up automatically when they punch in the corporate rate.
    If you are renting for personal use, Digital does not provide any optional
    insurance. You need your own. Best thing to do is rent with a credit card
    that provides the coverage for you.
    Also, and more important, if you smack up your personal car while on
    company business, you're on your own. Plus, your insurance company may
    not want to cover your loss if you've insured the car as "personal
    use only."
    In New York City, by the way, CDW is illegal; the renter's damage liability
    is limited to $100.
    /Peters
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| 850.4 |  | HPSCAD::FORTMILLER | Ed Fortmiller, MRO1-3, 297-4160 | Wed Jul 05 1989 11:09 | 6 | 
|  |     re .2: for personal use, Digital does not provide any optional
    insurance.
    
    According to .0:
    "Collision Damage Waiver is provided free and should be declined for
     both business and PERSONAL rentals at all locations."
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| 850.5 | Exceeding 125 mile limit/day | DELREY::WEYER_JI |  | Wed Jul 05 1989 11:43 | 10 | 
|  |     If I exceed the 125 mile limit now on my AVIS rental car on company
    business, will I be allowed to expense the $.20/mile that AVIS will
    charge me?  Here in Southern California, it is easy to exceed that
    mileage driving the freeways between Digital office sites.
    
    One more comment:  When renting for personal use, I've found the
    weekly package rates (including unlimited mileage) have been less
    expensive that the Digital *old* rates.  I've just used my gold
    Mastercard which included insurance coverage.
    
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| 850.6 |  | LESLIE::LESLIE | andy ��� leslie, csse | Wed Jul 05 1989 15:13 | 4 | 
|  |     If I exceed the mileage I claim it on expenses. For a business trip of
    course.
    
    - ���
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| 850.7 | confusing language | XANADU::FLEISCHER | without vision the people perish (381-0899 ZKO3-2/T63) | Wed Jul 05 1989 17:29 | 19 | 
|  | re Note 850.4 by HPSCAD::FORTMILLER:
>     According to .0:
>     "Collision Damage Waiver is provided free and should be declined for
>      both business and PERSONAL rentals at all locations."
        The language of .0 is obscure.  When one declines the CDW, is
        not one declining the coverage (with a subsequent reduction
        in cost)?  Which is the case:  is Digital self-insuring the
        risks that a CDW would cover (which is what I had always
        heard before this), or does our corporate rate include CDW
        coverage (from the rental company, not self-insurance) at no
        extra cost?
        It would seem that in the former case (self-insurance), a
        personal rental at the corporate rate would not have any CDW
        coverage except from the renter's personal resources.
        Bob
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| 850.8 | its not just the language that is confused | STAR::HUGHES |  | Wed Jul 05 1989 18:01 | 19 | 
|  |     It used to be that the rental car co provided the CDW at no extra
    charge, not that Digital was self insuring. This 'free CDW' is provided
    as an incentive to Digital to use the rental car services.
    
    There is a catch to this if you are involved in international travel.
    The 'free CDW' only covers employees of the country in which you are
    renting. I ran afoul of this several years ago as a US employee renting
    a car in the UK. The result was an incredible amount of paperwork and
    my then current cost center paid the deductible.
    
    Unless something has changed since then (about 4 years ago, and I have
    no reason to suspect that it has) I'd advise purchasing CDW when
    renting in a foreign country for personal use. I always purchased CDW
    when travelling for DEC in foreign countries after this particular
    episode. 
    
    Policy or not, it simply isn't worth the hassle.
    
    gary
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| 850.9 | for the record - US Livewire | WHIRL::HCROWTHER | HDCrowther|USIS|297-2379|MRO3-1/N17 | Fri Jul 07 1989 13:07 | 112 | 
|  |                New car rental rates for Avis and National 
 
    New car rental rates in the U. S. for both Avis and National will be 
    in effect July 1, 1989, through December 31, 1990.  Although there has 
    been a reduction in some of the rates, a mileage cap has been put in 
    effect with both Avis and National.  The following is information 
    regarding the rates and insurance applicable to each agreement.
    
    Under the Avis and National agreements, Collision Damage Waiver is 
    provided free and should be declined for both business and personal 
    rentals at all locations.  Digital employees should also decline 
    Personal Accident Insurance on business rentals because the company 
    provides adequate medical coverage.  However, Personal Accident 
    Insurance may be considered on personal rentals.
    
    National now provides $1 million Liability Insurance coverage at all 
    locations.  Avis provides $1 million Liability Insurance coverage at 
    most locations.
    Employees who are retirees renting vehicles for personal use will now 
    be offered the rates, terms, and conditions of both the Avis and 
    National agreements.
    
    The age requirement for employees who rent vehicles from both Avis and 
    National is eighteen (18) years of age.  However, National will rent 
    to employees between the age of eighteen (18) and twenty-one (21) only 
    if they are on Digital business.
    
    Under the National Agreement, in order to obtain the free Collision 
    Damage Waiver and $1 million Liability Insurance, renters must pay the 
    Digital contracted rates.
                       AVIS -- Corp. I. D. #A126200
    
                                DAILY           WEEKLY          MONTHLY
    CAR GROUP                   RATE            RATE            RATE    
    
    A - Sub-compact             $30.00          $150.00         $540.00
    B - Compact                  32.00           160.00          576.00
    C - Intermediate             33.00           165.00          594.00
    D - Full size (2-door)       34.50           172.50          621.00
    E - Full size (4-door)       34.50           172.50          621.00
    F - Wagon                    39.50           197.50          711.00
    G - Premium                  48.50           242.50          873.00
    
    *     Mileage in excess of 125 free miles per day will be charged at 
          $.20 per mile.
    
    *     For inter-city (one-way) rentals, a mileage charge of $.20 per 
          mile will be added to the daily rate. 
    *     One-way mileage fees do not apply to rentals between the 
          following locations:
    
                Boston/Greater Maynard,MA/Southern New Hampshire
                Denver/Colorado Springs,CO
                San Francisco/San Jose, CA
    
    *     There will be an additional $6.00 per day surcharge at the 
          following rental locations:
    
                Manhattan, NY
                JFK Airport
                LaGuardia Airport
                Newark, NJ Airport
    
    *     In Alaska, a 10% discount to normal time and mileage rates apply.
                      National -- Corp. I.D. #5202000
    
                                DAILY           WEEKLY          MONTHLY
    CAR GROUP                   RATE            RATE            RATE   
    
    E - Economy                 $31.00          $155.00         $558.00
    M - Mid-size                 33.00           165.00          594.00
    F - Full-size                35.00           175.00          630.00
    P - Premium                  41.00           205.00          738.00
    Y - Mini Van                 41.00           205.00          738.00
    
    *     Mileage in excess of 100 free miles per day will be charged at 
          $.20 per mile.
    
    *     For inter-city (one-way) rentals, a mileage charge of $.20 per 
          mile will be added to the daily rate.  Drop-off charges will be 
          waived when the inter-city rental is authorized at the time of 
          rental.  For unauthorized inter-city rentals, a drop-off charge 
          of $.25 per mile (to the renting location) or $35.00, whichever 
          is less, shall apply.
    
    *     One-way mileage fees do not apply to rentals between the 
          following locations:
    
                Boston, MA/Worcester, MA/Manchester, NH
                San Francisco, CA/San Jose/CA
          
    *     There will be an additional $8.00 per day surcharge at the 
          following rental locations:
    
                Manhattan, NY            LaGuardia Airport
                JFK Airport              Newark, NJ Airport
    *     Discounted DEC rates are available to employees in Florida and 
          Hawaii.
    
    *     While promotional rates may be available at some National 
          rental locations, Digital's terms and conditions only apply to 
          the Digital rate.  Therefore, leisure travellers must pay the 
          Digital rate in order to have Collision Damage Waiver and $1 
          million Liability Insurance coverage.
    
    If you have any questions, please contact Beverly Habeeb at DTN 234-4142.
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| 850.10 | Call! | SMOOT::ROTH | Have you seen 'Laughing Gravy'? | Fri Jul 07 1989 14:54 | 8 | 
|  | 
    Suggestion: Before renting a car for personal use, check with
    your personal auto insurance company. Some auto insurance
    company policies cover your use of a rental car, thus you may
    not need to pay additional amounts to rental company.
    
    Lee with_his_consumer_tip_for_today
    
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| 850.11 |  | LESLIE::LESLIE | andy ��� leslie | Fri Jul 07 1989 15:20 | 3 | 
|  |     re: .9 Why repost .0?
    
    - ���
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| 850.12 |  | WHIRL::HCROWTHER | HDCrowther|USIS|297-2379|MRO3-1/N17 | Fri Jul 07 1989 16:24 | 4 | 
|  |     re: .11 - Why repost?  At least one important difference between
    the two, a name+dtn to call for answers.  Other differences--I
    didn't DIF them.  Lastly, Livewire seems somehow more "official"
    --that's got to be worth something.
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| 850.13 |  | LESLIE::LESLIE | andy ��� leslie | Fri Jul 07 1989 16:54 | 3 | 
|  |     More official that what?
    
    - ���
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| 850.14 | probable problem for Mass. drivers | XANADU::FLEISCHER | without vision the people perish (381-0899 ZKO3-2/T63) | Mon Jul 10 1989 12:45 | 16 | 
|  | re Note 850.10 by SMOOT::ROTH:
>     Suggestion: Before renting a car for personal use, check with
>     your personal auto insurance company. Some auto insurance
>     company policies cover your use of a rental car, thus you may
>     not need to pay additional amounts to rental company.
  
        The standard Massachusetts state-mandated auto insurance
        policy form gives collision coverage to a rental vehicle, but
        fire & theft coverage is given only if the policyholder's
        vehicle in the shop for repairs.  (This information is
        current as of a year or two ago;  last year the state went
        through the exercise of "reforming" auto insurance yet
        another time, so this may have changed.)
        Bob
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| 850.15 | Watch out the DOWN-TIME charge | TIAMAT::ZOLFONOON |  | Mon Jul 10 1989 13:39 | 11 | 
|  | 
	Even if your insurance covers the rental cars, watch out for
	new "Down-time" charge. Most car rentals now charge you for 
	the bussiness they loose when you damage their cars. That is
	you pay as if you were using the car until it's out of the 
	repair shop and back in service.
	I know that most insurance companies do not cover the down-time
	expenses.
	Riaz
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| 850.16 | now in VTX | ERICG::ERICG | Eric Goldstein | Tue Jul 03 1990 02:30 | 3 | 
|  | Corporate VTX now includes pretty extensive information about business and
personal car rentals.  This includes the agreements posted in .0, and also
various useful hints.  At the DCL prompt, type VTX TRAVEL.
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