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828.1 | Monday Monday | MUSKIE::DICKS | FUBAR Band III: The Lost @ C Album | Sat Jun 03 1989 19:42 | 1 |
| Stay Tuned ... Directional Memo Due out on Monday
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828.2 | A tradition, not a policy | CALL::SWEENEY | Gotham City's Software Consultant | Sat Jun 03 1989 22:24 | 4 |
| Some new employees I spoke to last week were completely shocked that
decisions had been made but the company plays games with when, how, by
whom, and to whom the decisions are announced. Routine at Digital, I
replied.
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828.3 | | KYOA::MIANO | Who are the METS? | Sun Jun 04 1989 02:09 | 23 |
| RE: .2
> Some new employees I spoke to last week were completely shocked that
> decisions had been made but the company plays games with when, how, by
> whom, and to whom the decisions are announced. Routine at Digital, I
> replied.
What shocks me is that after the MGMT makes decisions and then playes
games about announcing them they are disturbed about people
spreading rumors. Some of the recent attacks on NOTES are
manifestations of this syndrome. One of the amazing things I've found
about DEC is that the rumors generally turn out to be true. What about
the rumor that the MGMT was going to take the cars away? How many people
want to bet that the rumor about a senior VP turns out to be true in
spite of an offical denial? The only rumors I don't believe are the
perenial ones: Early retirement and the AT&T takeover.
In our district there had been rumors about a district reorganization
going around for about two months. Whenever you asked a manager about
the rumors you got the line "no decision has been made". There was a
special district meeting a few weeks ago to dispell the rumors that were
going around. When the distric re-alignment was announced last week is
corresponded to the rumors exactly; right down to the precise numbers of
people involved and the names of the managers who were being moved.
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828.4 | RE: .3 More info please | MERIDN::JENNINGS | Just the VAX, please! | Sun Jun 04 1989 22:54 | 4 |
| could you be more specific about the district changes you mention,
perhaps something can be learned by this info.
Ed
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828.5 | | KYOA::MIANO | Who are the METS? | Sun Jun 04 1989 23:25 | 8 |
| RE: .4
The changes were all local and reflected the business conditions in our
area. The only thing that could become a trend elsewhere, since it
makes very good sense, is that the projects business is to be moved to
the area level.
John
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828.6 | | LESLIE::LESLIE | Andy ��� Leslie, CSSE/VMS Europe | Mon Jun 05 1989 07:58 | 9 |
|
Let's wait for the memo, rather than rumour-monger, please?
No doubt it'll get posted here dam' fast - everything else does!
:-)
Andy
Co-Moderator
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828.7 | RE: .5 Don't expect miracles from an Area-based projects team ... | YUPPIE::COLE | I'd rather be burned out than RUSTED out! | Mon Jun 05 1989 09:26 | 3 |
| unless the infrastructure in the Districts is set up to properly qual-
ify, define, and plan the business. Or unless your District USWM is willing to
TOTALLY give up account control to an Area outfit! :>)
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828.8 | here IT is! | NYEM1::MILBERG | Barry Milberg | Mon Jun 05 1989 22:53 | 97 |
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I N T E R O F F I C E M E M O R A N D U M
Date: 5-Jun-1989 10:06am EDT
From: Dave Grainger
GRAINGER.DAVE AT A1 AT USCTR1 AT MRO
Dept: US. MGMT
Tel No: 297-4940
TO: See Below
Subject: DIRECTION FOR THE 90'S
************PLEASE COMMUNICATE TO ALL EMPLOYEES************
As we move into the 90's, a key strategy is to make account
management our strategic differentiation in the marketplace.
We will achieve this through empowering account managers to
act on behalf of Digital nationally and internationally and
through integrating Industry Marketing and Sales. These
enable us to focus on selling and supporting our customers
more effectively.
Towards this end, Industry Sales will be the primary
responsibility of the Area Sales Manager. As these new roles
are announced, Industry Sales Managers will report to the
Industry Sales/Marketing Vice President for their account
responsibilities as well as to the Sales function.
Specifically, Government Sales/Marketing will report to
Harvey Weiss, Volume Sales/Marketing to Jay Atlas, and
Industry Sales/Marketing to Bob Hughes. Their responsibility
will be to ensure improvements in efficiency and
effectiveness through clear strategy setting and direction
for their assigned industry accounts.
The Industry Sales structure will provide us an immediate
means to integrate the field sales and marketing efforts, and
we expect the opportunity for further segmentation will come
over time.
Jerry Paxton will assume responsibility for functional Sales
which includes sales headquarters, programs management,
training, productivity, measurements and metrics, and reward
systems, as well as other activities to ensure we maintain
one sales force.
Jack MacKeen will continue to provide focus to
Telecommunications as well as assume responsibility for the
International Programs Office ensuring shared programs and
communications for channels, industry, and account management
activities.
Chick Shue is handling a special project involved with
international sales programs.
In addition to the sales and marketing focus, we are
continuing to work the integration of sales and services so
that we do a better job of representing Digital to our
customer.
Rich Nortz will continue to manage the Customer Services
organization which includes a broad portfolio of support
services focused on customer satisfaction and leveraging
sales of total solutions.
To integrate strategic capabilities and position Digital as a
world-class leader in Systems Integration, we have created
the Enterprise Integration Services (EIS) organization. As
EIS manager, Bill Ferry will directly manage the Software
Services function, the Systems Integration business, and the
Program Management office, while host managing Educational
Services and Computer Special Systems.
Our overall aim is to deliver technology to customers in the
most effective way. Product Business Units (PBU's) will
continue to drive product, technology, and applications
development, and the enhanced delivery of solutions to
customers through the Product Marketing Group (PMG) and sales
support.
We expect this integration of Sales and Marketing, Services,
as well as PBU's, will have a substantial positive impact on
communications, sales effectiveness, marketshare, and
customer satisfaction.
Digital is committed to providing quality information
systems, services, and products to our customers. With this
new direction, Digital anticipates achieving significant
success in the 90's.
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828.9 | | LESLIE::LESLIE | Andy ��� Leslie, CSSE/VMS Europe | Tue Jun 06 1989 01:14 | 3 |
| Well if thats "it" I'm a little disappointed. I was rather hoping for a
statement of corporate vision and how it could be implemented, rather
than a US area reorg on sales and services - although this is a start.
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828.10 | sigh.. | BUNYIP::QUODLING | Just a Coupl'a days.... | Tue Jun 06 1989 02:29 | 12 |
| > <<< Note 828.9 by LESLIE::LESLIE "Andy ��� Leslie, CSSE/VMS Europe" >>>
>
> Well if thats "it" I'm a little disappointed. I was rather hoping for a
> statement of corporate vision and how it could be implemented, rather
> than a US area reorg on sales and services - although this is a start.
Unfortunately Corporate "Vision" too often cannot see across large
expanses of water, andy...
q
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828.11 | I'm confused...(as usual) | THEPIC::AINSLEY | Less than 150 kts. is TOO slow! | Tue Jun 06 1989 11:56 | 7 |
| Does this mean that the typical U.S. customer will see fewer or more Digital
people to help him 'integrate his enterprise'?
Will there be 1 person with the authority/responsibility to bring required
resources to bear to solve a customers' problem?
Bob
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828.12 | | CURIE::VANTREECK | | Tue Jun 06 1989 14:40 | 38 |
| An industry sales/marketing organization is trying to put together the
messages one needs to penetrate target industries deeply. What's really
farsical about this that in many cases either we don't have the product
for specific areas in an industry or lack the sales support to
adequately sell it. In other words, if we had the product and field
knowledgable people we'd penetrate those industries without any need of an
industry sales/marketing organization.
Let me give a specific example. Aersopace marketing wanted to focus
selling VAX systems for the real-time flight simulation and signal
processing. The primary competition is Gould, Convex, etc.. A big
meeting was called. MSD, LDP, ESG, corporate accounts, and other groups
laid out the issues of selling VAX systems for those application areas.
It became very clear in the meeting that field did not have the
expertise to sell at such a detailed level. And so there were various
proposals on a SWAT teams and centralized support. Also, there were
some issues around bus bandwidth, VME bus, etc..
Industry marketing folk kept repeating the same thing -- something
along the lines of "But we don't want to sell at the technical level.
We don't want to talk bus bandwidth, types of DMA, etc.. We want to
sell at the systems and enterprise level. Why won't the customers buy
everything from one vendor, even if don't have the best real-time
solutions or can talk techie?" Corporate accounts and product marketing
groups had to keep repeating to them that they buying decision was made
by engineers that had to pick the technology to get the job done. Our
sales force was totally incompetent to articulate our strengths in
real-time. And ignorance in the field about specifica application areas
made it very difficult to get product requirements back to engineering.
The sales VPs haven't figured out yet that the way to penetrate an
industry with the right products for SPECIFIC APPLICATIONS in that
industry and being able to articulate the benifits of those products.
This new reorganization is going to exacerbate field problems of no
technical competence and missing products in highly focused application
areas by adding a new dimension of cross-functional sales overhead.
-George
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828.13 | What about P&L??? | ATLV5::GRADY_T | tim grady | Tue Jun 06 1989 15:38 | 16 |
| Good point, Geogrge. I've had a chance to see that same scenario
from the field sales support/PSS perspective. It's interesting
that the view is so similar. I'm not sure this will mean additional
overhead, or badly needed vertical market support in the field.
It's hard to tell from the memo.
One question I'm interested in seeing answered is a pragmatic one,
for the field anyway: what about P&L responsibility? When will
sales finally be held responsible for seeing that deals are profitable,
and not simply be expected to close business, at all costs?
After all, Q3's numbers showed Certs up, profits down. Seems like
an obvious point, if a little simplistic...
tim
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828.14 | What is Power at DEC anyway? | SDSVAX::SWEENEY | Gotham City's Software Consultant | Mon Jun 12 1989 09:04 | 20 |
| Recently, many events and non-events have bothered me greatly and I
hope that Digital's watchers here agree with my conclusion that this is
totally detstructive to trust.
We have here far too many decisions being made with far too much
information being witheld regarding their outcome.
Grinding out the rumors, even the rumor that "the outcome is undecided"
or "the outcome is decided" are discussed. Even the rumors have
rumors.
If all the "power" some one in this corporation is knowing what changes
will happen that will affect 1,000 or more people before they
themseleves know it, then I put it to you, notions of what "power"
is in Digital Equipment Corporation have become corrupt.
"Who's in" and "Who's out" isn't important. What's important is the
goals and organizational alignment, and so much of that is not explicit
but derived from personalities and career backgrounds.
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828.15 | | POCUS::KOZAKIEWICZ | Shoes for industry | Thu Aug 17 1989 22:53 | 41 |
| One of Pat's "Who's out":
I N T E R O F F I C E M E M O R A N D U M
Date: 17-Aug-1989 04:56pm EST
From: Dave Grainger
GRAINGER.DAVE AT A1 AT USCTR1 AT MRO
Dept: US. MGMT
Tel No: 297-4940
TO: See Below
Subject: CHICK SHUE
*********************************************************************
PLEASE DISTRIBUTE THIS TO YOUR ORGANIZATIONS
*********************************************************************
It is with mixed feelings that I accept the resignation of Chick Shue.
For nearly 20 years, Chick has made many contributions to Digital in
numerous positions and locations throughout the U.S.
Chick has accepted the position of U.S. Subsidiary President for Matra
Datavision, a Digital Cooperative Marketing Partner (CMP). Matra's
U.S. headquarters is located in Tewksbury, MA. Digital and Matra
Datavision have a great opportunity to substantially increase our
combined presence in the U.S. market for mechanical CAD/CAM systems.
Please join me in wishing Chick Shue success in his new position.
DG:sw
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828.16 | Engineering changes | E::EVANS | | Fri Aug 18 1989 10:27 | 119 |
|
From: NAME: Jack Smith
FUNC: ENG/MFG/PROD MKT ADMIN
TEL: 223-2231 <SMITH.JACK AT A1 at CORA @ CORE>
To: See Below
I am pleased to announce the formation of the Distributed Software
Systems Group (DSSG) headed by Bill Strecker and reporting to me. DSSG
will be responsible for the development of the operating systems and
much of the layered software function for Digital's distributed system
environment.
A traditional source of Digital's uniqueness is its networked computing.
But, our customers are demanding that we go beyond the simple
connectivity of networking and move to true distributed systems. These
distributed systems will have the functionality, manageability, and
security of traditional central systems. DSSG will insure that Digital
has the industry leading heterogeneous distributed systems for the
1990's.
Major existing organizations included in DSSG and reporting to Bill
Strecker will be OS/SB (Open Systems Software Business), PC
Integration Software, SDT (Software Development Technology), and VMS.
Secure Systems Engineering, the Security Program Office, and Corporate
Standards, currently reporting to Bill Strecker, will also be part of
DSSG.
As part of this announcement, I am pleased to announce several other
changes within DSSG. OS/SB, previously managed by Bill Heffner, will
now be managed by Roger Heinen. Details on Bill Heffner's significant
new role will be announced separately. VMS, previously managed by Kurt
Friedrich, will now be managed by Rick Spitz. Kurt Friedrich will
establish and manage within DSSG new integrating functions to insure
that the central mission of DSSG is accomplished. SDT will continue to
be managed by Bill Keating, and PC Integration Software will continue to
be managed by Joe Carchidi who will jointly report to John Rose.
A key part of DSSG will be a Software Strategy Committee which will
include representatives from DSSG, other Central Engineering groups,
Product Marketing, and Field Engineering. The Committee will establish
Digital's Distributed Systems architecture and insure that all of
Digital's software fits that architecture.
Another key part of DSSG will be the establishment of a strong marketing
and business segment focus. Details on this will be announced later.
Bill Strecker is currently Vice President of Product Strategy and
Architecture. With the establishment of the three system business
segments, I expect the system segment managers to be primarily
responsible for the segment strategies. However, software is the common
element of all our product strategies; and I continue to expect Bill
Strecker to play a leadership role in defining our overall product
strategy, and insuring consistency across the segments. In support of
this overall responsibility, Bill will be a member of the new Corporate
Operations Committee.
Please welcome Bill in his new and expanded role, welcome the new
managers in DSSG, and extend your support to the DSSG organization.
/bc
To Distribution List:
KEN OLSEN @CORE,
JIM OSTERHOFF @CORE,
WIN HINDLE @CORE,
JOHN SIMS @CORE,
JACK SHIELDS @CORE,
MARTY HOFFMANN @CORE,
JACK SMITH @CORE,
ABBOTT WEISS @CORE,
NAME: George Chamberlain <CHAMBERLAIN.GEORGE AT A1 at CORA @ CORE>,
NAME: Henry Crouse <CROUSE.HENRY AT A1 at CORA @ CORE>,
NAME: Jim Cudmore <CUDMORE.JIM AT A1 at CORA @ CORE>,
NAME: Bill Demmer <DEMMER.BILL AT A1 at CORA @ CORE>,
NAME: Dick Farrahar <FARRAHAR.DICK AT A1 at CORA @ CORE>,
NAME: Kurt Friedrich @CORE <FRIEDRICH.KURT AT A1 at CORA @ CORE>,
NAME: Sam Fuller <FULLER.SAM AT A1 at CORA @ CORE>,
NAME: Bob Glorioso <GLORIOSO.BOB AT A1 at CORA @ CORE>,
NAME: BILL HANSON <HANSON.BILL AT A1 at CORA @ CORE>,
HEFFNER @CORMTS @VAXMAIL,
NAME: Bill Johnson <JOHNSON.BILL AT A1 at CORA @ CORE>,
KEATING@PIPE@MRGATE,
NAME: William Koteff <KOTEFF.WILLIAM AT A1 at CORA @ CORE>,
NAME: Dom LaCava <LACAVA.DOM AT A1 at CORA @ CORE>,
NAME: Frank McCabe <MCCABE.FRANK AT A1 at CORA @ CORE>,
NAME: BOB PALMER <PALMER.BOB AT A1 at CORA @ CORE>,
NAME: Grant Saviers <SAVIERS.GRANT AT A1 at CORA @ CORE>,
NAME: PETER SMITH <SMITH.PETER AT A1 at CORA @ CORE>,
NAME: Jack Smith <SMITH.JACK AT A1 at CORA @ CORE>,
DAVID STONE @GEO,
NAME: BILL STRECKER <STRECKER.BILL AT A1 at CORA @ CORE>,
DICK YEN @TAO,
NAME: Ken Olsen <OLSEN.KEN AT A1 at CORA @ CORE>,
NAME: Jack Shields <SHIELDS.JACK AT A1 at CORA @ CORE>,
NAME: Jack Smith <SMITH.JACK AT A1 at CORA @ CORE>,
WILLOW SHIRE @MRO,
NAME: Bill Demmer <DEMMER.BILL AT A1 at CORA @ CORE>,
NAME: Bob Glorioso <GLORIOSO.BOB AT A1 at CORA @ CORE>,
NAME: Dom LaCava <LACAVA.DOM AT A1 at CORA @ CORE>,
PIER-CARLO FALOTTI @GEO,
NAME: Dave Grainger <GRAINGER.DAVE AT A1 at CORA @ CORE>,
NAME: DICK POULSEN <POULSEN.DICK AT A1 at CORA @ CORE>,
DON BUSIEK @OGO,
NAME: DONALD ZERESKI <ZERESKI.DONALD AT A1 at CORA @ CORE>,
NAME: BILL HANSON <HANSON.BILL AT A1 at CORA @ CORE>,
NAME: BILL STRECKER <STRECKER.BILL AT A1 at CORA @ CORE>,
NAME: PETER SMITH <SMITH.PETER AT A1 at CORA @ CORE>,
NAME: Bill Johnson <JOHNSON.BILL AT A1 at CORA @ CORE>,
NAME: BRUCE J RYAN @CORE <RYAN.BRUCE J AT A1 at CORA @ CORE>,
NAME: Dick Farrahar <FARRAHAR.DICK AT A1 at CORA @ CORE>
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828.17 | 0>- Bill Heffner -<0 | SYZYGY::SOPKA | Smiling Jack | Tue Aug 22 1989 10:48 | 45 |
828.20 | Why not hide the whole damn notesfile? | SMAUG::GARROD | An Englishman's mind works best when it is almost too late | Wed Sep 27 1989 00:00 | 11 |
| Why was .18 set hidden? If I remember correctly it was a 300 or 400
line memo from Dave Grainger/Jack Shields/Ken Olsen detailing how sales
is now organized. The memo did not say it was 'Digital Confidential'
and seemed to me to be clearly meant as an informatory memo to Digital
employees explaining some of the recent reorganization efforts.
In my opinion the hiding of this memo seems to be yet another example
of notesfile moderator pananoia not to mention a deliberate effort to
stifle communication of important matters within the company.
Dave
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828.21 | | DEC25::BRUNO | The Shropshire Slasher! | Wed Sep 27 1989 00:39 | 5 |
| Aw for pete's sake, give it a break. The moderator had a reason
for setting it hidden. Why don't you just wait and see if it is set
revealed later. The uproar just isn't worth it.
Greg
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828.22 | I'm not a moderator, but... | POCUS::KOZAKIEWICZ | Shoes for industry | Wed Sep 27 1989 00:48 | 33 |
| re: .20
The poster of .18 removed the forwarding information, including
an introductory message from Dave Grainger. In the deleted text,
it is pretty clear from the context (at least to me) that this memo
was not explicitly intended for wide distribution, at least not
yet.
I can't think of a way to say this without the risk of sounding
patronizing or gratuitous, so I apologise if the following comes
across that way:
There will be quite a bit of change this year - anybody with even
just a few brain cells has figured at least that out already. There
are, however, many implementation details to be worked out. What
the changes will mean to the line managers and individual contributors
at the unit and district levels is still quite uncertain. The last
thing we need right now is people spending time worrying about the
upcoming change and lose focus on their jobs as a result.
Of course, if the memo had not been hidden, the all-too-predictable
complaining would probably have started (and I can't say that I
would find blame), sounding something like "Why hasn't my manager
told me about this yet? Why are we finding out about this stuff in
a notesfile?" I don't know about other managers in the Field, but
this gem showed up in my mail about an hour before it was posted
here. Electronic communication has not, in my opinion, served us
well in this particular matter, as it has communicated intentions
to introduce change at a rate far faster than those responsible
for implementing and defining it are capable of sustaining.
Al
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828.23 | Leave it hidden unless the author says otherwise | STAR::BECK | The question is - 2B or D4? | Wed Sep 27 1989 01:52 | 5 |
| This is a good example of what I said in a reply to another note (just
before now, for you next-unseeners). In the absence of some specific
indication from Mr. Grainger that the memo is intended for the widest
audience within DEC, nobody has any business posting it in a notes
file.
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828.24 | | ICESK8::KLEINBERGER | We ain't got no TREES! | Wed Sep 27 1989 08:58 | 12 |
| RE: .23
Yes, that is exactly why the note was set hidden. I wanted to give
the poster the benefit of the doubt, that he had indeed gotten Mr.
Grainger's permission to post it. I set it hidden so that he would not
have to repost it, once he sent me the mail with the permission.
Please let the above stand for every one... YOU HAVE TO HAVE
PERMISSION to post ANY mail OF ANY sort in this conference. IF not the
reply (or topic) to the topic will be returned to you.
Gale (co-mod)
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828.25 | Correction | POCUS::KOZAKIEWICZ | Shoes for industry | Wed Sep 27 1989 12:28 | 9 |
| A correction to my reply .22: The poster of .18 did not, as I stated,
delete the introductory message from Dave Grainger. Since .18 was
set hidden between the time I first saw it and actually replied
to it, I relied upon memory to reconstruct what was there. It looks
like I 'remembered' the wrong thing. The rest of the reply stands
as-is.
Al
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828.26 | Let's try this another way... | DALTEX::RESENDEP | Live each day as if it were Friday | Wed Sep 27 1989 12:55 | 37 |
| My manager participated in a con call with Bill Ferry last Wednesday
afternoon, during which he learned the plans for the new sales reorg.
He was given leave to distribute the information on Friday, which he
did in hardcopy, since his direct reports happened to all be together
for a meeting. The announcement was also distributed to us on Friday
via Email. The people, including myself, who received this
announcement are not members of the sales organization, and are not
managers, but are Software Services individual contributors. I do not
believe Bill Ferry would have given permission to distribute the
announcement to us if it were intended for restricted distribution.
With that said, I will summarize what I received in the following
paragraphs. If the moderators choose to suppress the distribution of
perfectly public information in this conference, then I acknowledge
their right as moderators to do so. But in no way do I acknowledge
that it is the right thing for them to do.
OK, the announcement involved the reorganization of the sales
organization. Organization will revolve around accounts. A sales unit
will consist of one or more accounts, and will cover the account(s)
over whatever geography the account covers. Budgeting will be by
account, not by geography. The numbers will be rolled up automatically
by the accounting system and will be reported monthly.
Six to twelve units will comprise a district. A district will carry an
expense budget and will be chartered with providing services and
management support to the units.
There will be six to eight geographies in the U.S. A geography will be
a grouping of districts. Certain districts will focus on specific
industry markets, but the entire field will not be organized by
industry.
The units will be re-budgeted, and the details of all this will be
finalized by the first of December so the whole thing can be
implemented the first of the calendar year. Budgets will cover all of
calendar year 1990.
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828.27 | | COVERT::COVERT | John R. Covert | Wed Sep 27 1989 12:59 | 11 |
| > If the moderators choose to suppress the distribution of
> perfectly public information in this conference, then I acknowledge
> their right as moderators to do so. But in no way do I acknowledge
> that it is the right thing for them to do.
They are enforcing a new policy requiring explicit permission before posting
anything written by someone else. (This policy technically prohibits me from
quoting you as I did above.)
The primary use of policies is often to justify NOT doing the right thing.
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