Conference 7.286::digital

    RE: *.1
    
    What's a PBU?  A Product Business Unit?
    
    Bo

    re:       "Grainger spoke well on his first 100 days in the U.S."
    
    I realize that the author is anonymous, and may not even see my
    reply, but others in the conference use the same terminology, so
    maybe this will help...
    
    The use of "U.S." here confuses and angers me.   I know perfectly
    well that Dave Grainger has been in the United States for considerably
    more than 100 days.   Does "U.S." mean something other than "United
    States"?  Does it mean "U.S. Field Service"?  Does it mean "U.S.
    Sales"?  Does it mean "Unbelievable Salesmen"?
    
    If it means something more specific than "United States" (such as
    "United States Sales and Field Service" or whatever), then WRITE
    WHAT IT REALLY IS.   Not all of us are from one organization, so
    it is inappropriate to use jargon or terminology when the population
    may not understand it.
    
    Off my soapbox now....    sheesh!
    
    D.M.
    E/Q/T Mgr.
    C.S.I.
    U.S.C.D.
    WMO
    DEC
		;-)

    Re: .4
    
    Dave Grainger's title is:
    
    Vice President, U.S. Sales and Services

    So if the field and Sales are so important (and I really do believe
    this), then why do we find a bunch of area hq staff newly hired in the 
    last 12 months while we cut the local Sales and Sales Support staff?
    
    We don't need more business analysts and contract negotiators at the 
    area headquarters.  We need people *here*, in our *local* office, 
    to deal directly with our customers.
    
    The other guys out there are kicking us in the butt right now.  We have
    better products, better engineers, and IMHO, a better but smaller field
    support staff.  But the other guys are *much* better than we are at
    getting their message out.  And it really doesn't matter how good your
    products are if you aren't able to tell anybody about them.
    
    - Greg Scott

    Re previous. US means what you want it to mean. In the UK U/S
    stands for Unserviceable ....  which caused some happy little
    inter-ally conversations during WWII ...
    
    -)
    
    m
    

    re .4:  Bear in mind that the original author didn't intend to address
    the entire company and used verbal shorthand common in their
    organization.  In their world, Digital (really meaning Digital Sales
    and Service) is divided into three: US (United States of America),
    Europe, and GIA (General International Area).  M/E/M (Manufacturing/-
    Engineering/Marketing) might as well be a separate company in that
    context.
    
    When I came out to Hong Kong, part of my corporate culture shock was to
    hear people say "Software" when they meant SWS (Software Services
    organization) and "Software Engineering" when they meant SWS/E, nothing
    to do with a certain outfit in Spitbrook.
    
    "Spitbrook" is of course jargon in the Engineering organization for the
    Spit Brook Road facility in Nashua, New Hampshire and the organizations
    occupying that site.
    
    I'm sure we in M/E/M have our own myopic views.
    
    --Simon
    

RE: .8

Sometimes this jargon gets outside the company with humerous results.  I saw
an article on a DEC product in one of the trade magazines that spoke of DEC's
"Software Engineering facility in Spit Brook, New Hampshire."

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