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| 703.1 | Yes, vacation rules vary by country | DR::BLINN | Mind if we call you Bruce? | Tue Jan 24 1989 12:44 | 7 |
| Many European countries have laws that mandate particular vacation
periods, or amounts of vacation time available. The same is
probably true in other parts of the world, as well. I trust
people from the various geographies will respond with more
details.
Tom
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| 703.2 | Swings & Roundabouts | RDGENG::DAY | 99% of Everything... | Tue Jan 24 1989 13:05 | 7 |
| Basically I fancy Digital goes along with market forces in the
country in question.
Incidentally I'd be quite happy to trade UK holidays for US salaries
Mike Day
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| 703.3 | You must remember your point of reference... | KYOA::KOCH | Any relation?... | Tue Jan 24 1989 14:54 | 34 |
| > up to five years with DEC: 2 weeks
> up to ten years: 3 weeks
> up to 20 years: 4 weeks
> over 20 years: 5 weeks
The DEC vacation schedule is:
5 years - 3 weeks
10 years - 4 weeks
20 years - 5 weeks
You also get a bonus week at your 5, 10, 20 anniversary date at
no extra charge!
In Europe, there are many individual countries each with their own
specific government mandated vacation policies. It is important to
realize that Europe is made up of many individual countries and
trying to place a blanket "well that's Europe for you" is incorrect.
I changed my opinion and view on Europe when I had the chance to
spend some time in France on Digital business in the Valbonne
Engineering Center.
In France, for example, every few weeks you get an extra day off
because of the government mandated work week which is shorter
than ours. Instead of shortening each day, Digital has a established
a 40 hour week, with the extra days off. This local accomodation
by France to Digital helps us to be more productive.
The scheduling of month-long vacations in the countries of Europe
is something that is somewhat traditional in nature. I am sure
that some of our European colleagues could do more justice to a
discussion of how they take vacations. I am simply an outsider
looking in, but with a new respect for each country's customs.
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| 703.4 | | BUNYIP::QUODLING | Apologies for what Doug Mulray said... | Tue Jan 24 1989 17:01 | 11 |
| Australia runs 5 weeks standard, and government law requires a
17.5% vacation loading to be paid while on vacation.
Don't get too excited, though. We pay about twice as much Tax as
you guys. And I have never been able to get my accrued vaction
time down below 12 weeks.
We also get 3 months long service at 15 years, and in this state
can take 2 of those 3 months at 10 years...
Q
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| 703.5 | | COVERT::COVERT | John R. Covert | Tue Jan 24 1989 17:37 | 23 |
| Charlotte,
Good idea to formally start this topic.
I suggest the following format for each reply.
Name of country in the title.
Public Holidays.
Vacation rules, with an indication of whether DEC is merely obeying local law
or is providing less than/better than/same as the average vacation in the
country.
By rules, I mean things like how long it takes you to get to a specific level.
For example, in the U.S., you don't get 4 weeks until your tenth year with DEC.
Years are counted from your most recent employment date, so if you leave and
come back, you start over at two weeks.
In other countries, this may depend on age or years in the workforce, or maybe
everyone gets the same.
/john
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| 703.6 | United States | COVERT::COVERT | John R. Covert | Tue Jan 24 1989 18:03 | 41 |
| Public Holidays:
1 January (or Monday following) *
Location Choice Day (e.g. Patriots Day ~18 April in Mass, Martin Luther King's
Birthday, 15 Jan, in some locations, additional personal
day in other locations such as New Hampshire).
Memorial Day (a Monday late in May)
Independence Day (4 July or Monday following) *
Labor Day (first Monday in September)
Thanksgiving Day (a Thursday late in November)
Day after Thanksgiving (not a public holiday)
Christmas Day (25 December or Monday following) *
DEC Choice day (this day is placed adjacent to one of the days marked with *)
Personal Choice day
The following Federal Holidays are not observed by DEC: Martin Luther King's
Birthday (except in some locations), President's Day (Washington and Lincoln,
a Monday in Late February), Columbus Day (second Monday in October), Veteran's
Day (11 November). Note that until the addition of MLK day, DEC Employees got
all of the holidays; DEC just chose to move four of them to LCD, DAT, DCD, and
PCD. No new day was added when MLK day became the 11th Federal holiday.
Vacation:
Vacation is accrued on a weekly basis in fractional hours and may be taken in
full day increments.
Up to five years, the rate of accrual is 10 days (2 weeks) per year.
Five to ten " " " " " " 15 days (3 weeks) per year.
Ten to twenty " " " " " " 20 days (4 weeks) per year.
Twenty and up " " " " " 25 days (5 weeks) per year.
On your 5th, 10th, and 20th anniversary, your accrued vacation is incremented
by an extra 40 hours, effectively making each of the above numbers one less
than it appears to be.
If you leave DEC and come back, you start over at two weeks.
DEC's vacation policy is slightly better than average in the U.S.
/john
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| 703.7 | updated in .30 | COVERT::COVERT | John R. Covert | Tue Jan 24 1989 18:16 | 27 |
| I would hope someone from Germany would post a corrected reply, at which point
I'll delete this tentative reply.
Public Holidays: All of these are observed in Munich. Four of them are not
observed in all parts of Germany (marked with an *), but I believe DEC takes
all of them, and possibly a couple of extra days. When one of the public
holidays falls on a Saturday or Sunday, unlike the U.S., it is not transferred.
The religious holidays without dates all depend on the date of Easter Sunday.
1 January
Epiphany (6 January) *
Good Friday
Easter Monday
Labor Day (1 May)
Ascension Day
Whitmonday
Corpus Christi *
Day of German Unity (17 June)
Assumption of the Blessed Virgin Mary (15 August) *
All Saint's Day (1 November) *
Day of Atonement
Christmas Day (25 December)
Second Day of Christmas (26 December)
There are six full weeks of vacation time.
/john
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| 703.8 | DENMARK | COPCLU::GEOFFREY | RUMMEL - The Forgotten American | Wed Jan 25 1989 04:17 | 41 |
|
PUBLIC HOLIDAYS: 11 or 12. (Constitution day is optional for
private firms and a half-day for public
offices.
New Years: 2 days
Easter: 3 days
Prayer Day: 1 day
Ascension: 1 day
Whitsun: 1 day
Constitution day: 0 or 1/2 or 1 day
Christmas: 3 days (plus 1 extra from DEC)
NOTE: there are no public holidays from Whitsun
(June) to Christmas.
VACATION: Here in Denmark we get a mandated 25 days (5 weeks) of
vacation. No more, no less. Of these 5 weeks an
employee has the right to take up to 3 of them
consecutively between May and September.
Regarding NOTE 703.2: I wouldn't want to swap a Danish salary
for an American one. I WOULD like to swap
the tax rate, though. Gross, I make more
than I could stateside. Net, I make far,
far less.
An open question on NOTE 703.6: If one moves within DEC from
Europe to the USA does one
keep one's seniority? Here, I'm
talking about a non-relocation
move - ie. own initiative. Would
I keep my 4-1/2 years with DEC if
I moved to a job in the states;
and thus be eligible for 3 weeks
vacation in 6 months?
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| 703.9 | UK Holiday Info | SEDOAS::KORMAN | Roll on 4th March! | Wed Jan 25 1989 04:56 | 31 |
| UK:
DEC Vacation:
On joining: 21 days, plus 3 company determined days (usually Xmas
week)
Year 3 onwards: an additional 2 days (total now 26)
Year 5 onwards: an additional 5 days (total now 29)
Up to 5 days may be carried forward to the next year (but MUST be
taken in that year - you can't accrue leave over several years and
then take months off.)
In addition, the following public holidays are observed; Bank holidays
are always taked on a monday. (If one of the dated holidays falls on
a Saturday or Sunday, the following monday is usually taken - etc - ie
if Xmas is on Sat, Mon and Tues are taken as the holidays.)
New Years Day (Jan 1)
Good Friday
Easter Monday
May Day (May 1)
Spring Bank Holiday (around end May)
August Bank Holiday ( " " August)
Xmas Day
Boxing Day (26th Dec)
Cheers.. Dave
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| 703.10 | | COVERT::COVERT | John R. Covert | Wed Jan 25 1989 07:47 | 13 |
| Re .-2, question about the years of service rule and international transfers.
Yes, you keep your years of service on international transfers (even if you
transfer from some weird place that requires you to "resign" when you leave).
Maximum accrual in the U.S. is double the number of hours that you accrue each
year (i.e. if you've been here 5-10 years, you accrue 120 hours/year, so your
maximum accrual is 240 hours, and you lose any accrual once you reach 240).
Upon transfer from Europe, you can bring with you only up to your maximum
accrual -- so take any extra vacation before your transfer date.
/john
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| 703.11 | More on the UK | THATIS::LINDLEY | Strewth mate..... | Wed Jan 25 1989 07:49 | 25 |
| Digital holiday entitlement in the UK is about average once you have
been with the company a few years, for new starters it is (my opinion
only) 2-3 days per year below average. The company I worked before
digital gave 30 days per year, plus 3 company determined days at xmas,
plus all the bank holidays, easter etc.
Working hours at Digital UK are 37.5 hours per week (9.00am to 5.30pm
with 1 hour for lunch). This is about average, but most people do
considerably longer hours than this without paid overtime, time off in
lieu or other recompense.
Starting salaries for new graduates at Digital are in the order of
�10,000 - �12,000 per year. Senior professionals (e.g. project
managers) may get twice this when the car allowance is taken into
account. I dont know what senior managers get paid. After deductions
for tax, national insurance and pension we get to keep (VERY roughly)
60% of our salary. Tax rates are higher for people who earn over a
certain amount, so take home pay decreases as a percentage of gross
salary.
What does a new graduate get paid in the states, what about more senior
people ? Would you swap your salaries for our holidays ?
John
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| 703.12 | | COVERT::COVERT | John R. Covert | Wed Jan 25 1989 07:51 | 2 |
| I would suggest we use this topic for a discussion of vacation and holidays
ONLY, and discuss salary somewhere else, if at all.
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| 703.13 | questions for q | REGENT::POWERS | | Wed Jan 25 1989 09:00 | 11 |
| >< Note 703.4 by BUNYIP::QUODLING "Apologies for what Doug Mulray said..." >
> Australia runs 5 weeks standard, and government law requires a
> 17.5% vacation loading to be paid while on vacation.
What is 17.5% vacation loading? Paid to whom?
> We also get 3 months long service at 15 years, and in this state
> can take 2 of those 3 months at 10 years...
Is this an extra leave of absence?
- tom]
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| 703.14 | I wonder what "Q" meant, too | CADSYS::RICHARDSON | | Wed Jan 25 1989 10:29 | 25 |
| re .13
I wondered what "Q" meant, too - maybe he will reply again this evening
and enlighten us. It sounded to me like you get a 17.5% bonus in your
vacation pay over your non-vacation pay (which sounds really odd to me)
and you get three months off (paid??) after 15 years (that sounds odd,
too), maybe as a sort of sabbatical.
I sometimes wonder if American DECcies get the LEAST amount of vacation
time of any country in the world? A lot of other high-tech American
companies give ALL employees 15 days vacation a year, regardless of
how long they have been with the firm, plus 8-10 national holidays -
you are on your own for religious holidays if you do not belong to a
"majority" religion (although some folks take them as sick days, a
perspective I can understand but don't agree with myself).
As an aside to Quodling, if you doubled my taxes, my take-home pay
would be negative, after other necessary stuff like health insurance is
withheld from my paycheck; engineers here stateside do not make as much
as you might think, and I normally work from 8:30 to 6:30 and eat lunch
at my desk (last week I worked 68 hours, but that is unusual for me; we
had a release to get out).
Back to work...
/Charlotte
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| 703.15 | Ireland | BODACH::APATIL | Avinash Patil @GAO DTN:822-2854 | Wed Jan 25 1989 12:37 | 45 |
|
From DIGITAL EMPLOYEE INFORMATION BOOKLET (for Ireland)
PUBLIC HOLIDAYS
Each Calendar year you will receive eight paid public holidays:-
(Corresponding FY89 Dates)
New Year's day Monday 2nd Jan 1989 (in lieu of)
St. Patrick's Day Friday 17th Mar 1989
Easter Monday Monday 27th Mar 1989
First Monday,June Monday 5th Jun 1989
First Monday,August Monday 1st Aug 1988
Last Monday,October Monday 31st Oct 1988
Chistmas Day Tuesday 27th Dec 1988 (in lieu of)
St. Stephan's Day Monday 26th Dec 1988
You should note that these days may be subject to alteration by legislation.
VACATION
You are entitled to 21 vacation days per year, eleven of which are "fixed"�
(these are posted on notice boards, cirulated to your Supervisor/Manager and
appear on the official plant calendar). The remaining 10 are "flexible". These
days are earned at the rate of 5/6 of a day per month and may be taken, with
prior agrrement of your Supervisor/Manager, as they are earned once you have
completed 3 months with the Company.
When you complete 5 years' service with the company you will be entitled
to an additional 5 service holidays per year. These 5 days are earned
immediately on the completion of 5 years' service.
An employee may accumulate vacation entitlement of upto 20 days (if less
than 5 years service) and 30 days (if 5 years or more service). Days in excess
of 20 or 30 are automatically lost.
� For FY89 - Fixed Plant Holidays 11 days
July 25th - 29th (Inclusive)
August 2nd - 5th (Inclusive)
Dec 28th 1988
Dec 29th 1988
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| 703.16 | | ANRCHY::SUSSWEIN | He Who Dies With the Most Toys Wins | Wed Jan 25 1989 12:42 | 15 |
| RE: vacation loading
Yes, in Australia you get a 17.5% bonus in your vacation pay vs.
regular pay. The rationale is that for people near the low end
of the pay scale, the fixed living costs (rent, food, etc.) remain
the same when on vacation, so there's no extra money available to
actually *do* something while on vacation. the extra 17.5% enables
them to actually take a vacation, as opposed to simply sitting at
home.
My opinion is that this makes sense for lower paid workers, but
isn't really necessary for engineers and the like.
Steve
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| 703.17 | | DARTS::DIAZ | Los Angeles Locos de Tenacatita | Wed Jan 25 1989 15:03 | 13 |
| RE: Extra vacation pay
In Mexico it's also by law to pay additional vacation bonus, based in
the same reasoning as 703.16 explained. I don't remember exactly the
percentage but I think it was 25%.
When I transfered from Mexico we had same vacation schedule as the
US, with two weeks being by law.
As a side info, Mexican law also establishes a Christmas bonus equal
to 2 week salary, and profit sharing with employees.
Octavio
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| 703.18 | Switzerland | SHIRE::MOHN | blank space intentionally filled | Thu Jan 26 1989 03:09 | 23 |
| Here in Switzerland we get the following public holidays (for 1989):
2 Jan. In lieu of New Year's Day
24 Mar. Good Friday
27 Mar. Easter Monday
4 May Ascension Day
15 May Whit Monday
1 Aug. Swiss National Day (pm only)
7 Sept. Jeune Genevois (Canton Geneva only)
25 Dec. Christmas Day
2 Jan. 1990 In lieu of Restauration Day (usually Dec. 30)
Vacation time is 20 days per year for everyone plus one day for
every two years worked for the company, thus for an employee with
10 years there are 20+(10/2)=25 days vacation.
Most Europeans view the US vacation rules as "barbaric"; as an American
transplant to Europe, I tend to agree.
In spite of John's comments on salary, it should be noted that salary
levels (absolute numbers) must be taken with a large grain of salt:
much depends on what the cost of living is where you work. The
real comparison is standard of living.
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| 703.19 | By Yon Bonnie Banks and by yon bonnie braes. | AYOU46::D_HUNTER | This is my Personal_name! | Thu Jan 26 1989 06:09 | 19 |
| In Scotland (Ayr) you get...
4 weeks standard
+ 2 days for 3 years service
+ 5 days for 5 years service
+ 1 day for your birthday.
Thus for a 5 year employee he/she gets 5weeks + one day's holiday
per year as well as the following public holidays...
Sept 16th - Ayr Gold Cup day.
Dec 26th through to and including Jan 3rd - Christmas/New Year.
Friday March 24th. - Good Friday.
Monday March 27th. - Easter Monday.
In all 7 weeks and 1 day's holiday.
Don H.
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| 703.20 | SWEDEN | LKPDEE::WALLIN | Hasse (Hans), Serv.Indstr.Eng.@LNK | Thu Jan 26 1989 08:02 | 52 |
|
Public Holidays:
'89: Jan 5 � day (work time reduced to 5 hours)
6
Mar 23 � day
24
27
May 1
3 � day
4
15
Jun 23
Nov 3 � day
Dec 25
26
Weekly Working Hours:
37.5 hours/week
Vacation:
25 days/year if entitled to overtime compensation (LAW).
30 days/year if NOT entitled to overtime compensation.
Sundays, Saturdays and above FULL holidays doesn't
count as vacation.
This is standard practice in Sweden.
You also get extra salary of 0.6% of the monthly salary
each day of vacation.
20 days/year can NOT be saved, the rest can be saved
in maximum 5 years.
Without going into details, the first year of employment
vacation is payed, but if the employee leaves Digital
within 5 years he has to pay the salary collected during
this 'unpaid' vacation back to Digital.
Overtime Comp. vs. NO Overtime Comp.
This is determined due to Job Level and the Work Tasks
(is this the correct phrase ?)
i.e. Managers at or above JL8, and Everyone at or above
JL9, and Everyone with Work Tasks that make overtime
compensation impractical (Sales Reps. etc.) have NO
right to overtime compensation, and hence 30 days
vacation.
/Hans_Wallin Service Industries Engineering, Link�ping, SWEDEN
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| 703.21 | | BHAJEE::JAERVINEN | Approximately 45.87697623 % | Thu Jan 26 1989 10:10 | 16 |
| re .7: I think the holidays are correct. I don't remember off the
top of my head which ones are not observed in some other states.
As John said, all are observed in Bavaria.
In addition, DEC is closed on December 24 and December 31.
Also, for all practical purposes, the carnival day (Faschingsdienstag
in Munich) is a holiday in cities where such customes exist.
The vacation is 30 working days. The legal minimum (I may be mistaken
here, because hardly anyone uses it) is 18 days but the law originates
from times when working on Saturdays was the norm (making the vacation
3 weeks). The standard for most white-collar work is 30 net working
days (and in DEC locations which have flexitime, you can use it
towards taking off days that fall between two holidays).
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| 703.22 | | SERPNT::SONTAKKE | Vikas Sontakke | Thu Jan 26 1989 10:48 | 7 |
| Are there any countries in Europe where certain restrictions are put on
taking vacation adjacent to a holiday period? For example if Thursday
was a holiday, taking Friday off would be counted not a day but two
days.
Thanks,
- Vikas
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| 703.23 | Just Curious | EAGLE1::BRUNNER | VAX & MIPS Architecture | Thu Jan 26 1989 20:04 | 10 |
| In the UK, what are "Spring & Summer BANK days"?? A lot of possibilities
go through my mind but they all seem silly.
What does one do with 7 weeks of Vacation time? I get bored after 1
week.
I am very curious about vacation time in Asia. Anybody know what the
average is in Japan?
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| 703.24 | | ODIHAM::PHILPOTT_I | Col. Philpott is back in action... | Fri Jan 27 1989 04:52 | 9 |
| Once upon a time Banks in Britain produced quarterly accounts, on
days known as quarter days. Since the banks closed for the day (though
their staff worked) many businesses closed also (since they couldn't
use banking services). These days came to be known as "Bank Holidays".
Time marches on a there are now more than 4, but the terminology
is still used...
/. Ian .\
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| 703.25 | FRANCE | BISTRO::BREICHNER | | Fri Jan 27 1989 11:37 | 30 |
| Vacation days: 25 working days (=5 weeks)
DEC grants additional 2 days after 1 year with DEC
" " " 4 days 2 " "
(Total after 2 years: 29 days)
+
additional 2 days if vacation credit during winter period => 5 days.
Vacation credit reference period starts 1-June, ends 31-May
Normally no accruals are allowed to caaried over to the next period
(year).
However, as the french always have a means to "adapt" the rules,
DEC usually grants "old vacation days" to be taken in June, July
if there are valid business reasons.
As mentioned before, due to legal worktime reduction, you get
a "day off" every six weeks, no accruals.
There are also "special" days off for:
Getting married, child-birth, house-moving, death of relatives...etc,
etc..
When you get sick during vacation, the counter stops decrementing,
you have the option of extending the vacation by sick days, or
keeping the credit for later vacation.
Full pay during vacation, Full pay during sick-leave up to 6 months.
(reduced pay from 6 months onward)
Public holidays: 12, unless on sundays, no compensation.
Comments: Most above is legal, with a few extras by DEC
Fred
Fred
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| 703.26 | lots of vacation | WR2FOR::BOUCHARD_KE | Ken Bouchard WRO3-2/T7 | Tue Jan 31 1989 19:52 | 6 |
| The US must certainly get the worst vacation deal of any country
in the world.(at least the ones we've heard from) But...DEC is not
doing anything out of generosity.It is the governments of those
countries that dictate how companies will treat it's employees.
BTW: I especially like those bonuses that some countries demand
that we pay.
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| 703.27 | | BHAJEE::JAERVINEN | Approximately 45.87697623 % | Wed Feb 01 1989 07:47 | 3 |
| It's not only legislation. DEC in Germany gives about double the
legal minimum. But so do others.
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| 703.28 | What about Japan? | SQM::MAURER | Helen Maurer | Wed Feb 08 1989 12:58 | 4 |
| I believe there is one country more conservative about vacation
than the United States .... Japan. As I recall when I studied
Japanese, my instructor said that most Japanese consider 2 weeks
vacation incredibly long.
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| 703.29 | | SCARY::M_DAVIS | Smile out loud! | Thu Feb 09 1989 10:46 | 1 |
| Japan has 18 holidays, two of which are government offices only.
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| 703.30 | Germany | COVERT::COVERT | John R. Covert | Thu May 17 1990 21:00 | 37 |
| Employee representatives have negotiated new reduced work rules in Germany.
Beginning in 1991 DEC Employees in Germany will get 46.5 days (9 weeks plus a
day and a half) of vacation time plus up to 17 days of holidays each year.
The increase is phased in this year, when employees will get 42 days (8wk+2da).
Many locations allow you to use flextime to reduce your working hours in lieu
of all or part of the vacation, i.e. a 37-40 hour work week. Any time worked
over 40 hours per week also results in additional vacation.
Public Holidays: All of these are observed in Munich. Four of them are not
observed in all parts of Germany (marked with an *), but DEC takes most of
them, plus a couple in addition to the public holidays. When one of the public
holidays falls on a Saturday or Sunday, unlike the U.S., it is not transferred.
The religious holidays without dates all depend on the date of Easter Sunday
and always fall on weekdays. Days marked "DEC" are days which are not public
holidays, but which are holidays at DEC.
New Year's Day (1 January)
Epiphany (6 January) *
Shrove Tuesday (DEC, observed de facto in Bavaria, Cologne, and other cities)
Good Friday
Easter Monday
Labor Day (1 May)
Ascension Day
Whitmonday
Corpus Christi *
Day of German Unity (17 June)
Assumption of the Blessed Virgin Mary (15 August) *
All Saint's Day (1 November) *
Day of Atonement
Christmas Eve (24 December) (DEC)
Christmas Day (25 December)
Second Day of Christmas (26 December)
New Year's Eve (31 December) (DEC)
/john
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| 703.31 | What is wrong withis picture? | GLORY::RAO | R. V. Rao | Tue May 22 1990 12:24 | 5 |
|
Given such a laaarge gap in US and German vacation practices,
why is that US still cannot compete with Germany on many economic
fronts? Is the reason due to US management or workers (or the
environment)?
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| 703.32 | Thanks | COVERT::COVERT | John R. Covert | Tue May 22 1990 13:08 | 5 |
| Can we discuss the question raised in .31 in another topic (or another
conference), and keep this topic mostly a listing of vacation and holiday
time for each country, please?
/john
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| 703.33 | Australia updated | BIGUN::SIMPSON | more CPU power than a toaster | Thu May 24 1990 04:28 | 32 |
| re .4
I'm afraid my erstwhile compatriot Q has erred. The minimum
recreation leave in Australia by law is four working weeks, not five.
The long service leave is additional to that. The 17.5% loading only
applies to recreation leave, and there is a maximum amount that will be
paid irrespective of the calculated bonus. Digital Australia P&P makes
provisions for bereavement leave etc, although these are not mandatory
or automatic. Sick leave is mandatory, but the amount varies according
to various industry Awards. Normally it is two working weeks.
We also get the following paid public holidays:
New Years day
Australia day
Canberra day (Australian Capital Territory only)
Good Friday
Easter Monday
Easter Tuesday (Victoria only)
ANZAC day
May day (In lieu of Labour day, Northern Territory only)
Adelaide Cup day (South Australia only)
Foundation day (Western Australia only)
Queen's birthday
Labour day (Eight-Hour day in Tasmania)
Melbourne Show day (Victoria only)
Melbourne Cup day (nominally Victoria only but the whole country shuts
down)
Recreation day (northern Tasmania only)
Christmas day
Boxing day (Proclamation day in South Australia)
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| 703.34 | | SCCAT::BOUCHARD | Ken Bouchard WRO3-2 | Thu May 24 1990 18:06 | 6 |
| .33> or automatic. Sick leave is mandatory, but the amount varies according
.33> to various industry Awards. Normally it is two working weeks.
Does that go for W4's too?
Ken
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| 703.35 | INDIA | CURIE::SRINIVASAN | | Fri May 25 1990 08:32 | 15 |
|
In India, I understand that every employee gets the following
16 days of festival holidays
30 days of regular vacation, which can be accrued upto 90 days
15 days ofsick leave, which can be accrued up to 45 days.
10 days of casual leave, which cannot be accrued.
Plus the usual weekends ( sat & sun ) for offices- but only
Sunday for factories.
Plus, when the emplyee takes atleast 1 week of regular vacation, they
also get atleast one to two month pay as "LEAVE TRAVEL CONCESSION" as a
compensation for travel during vacation.
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| 703.36 | but I'd rather be in the US | SCCAT::BOUCHARD | Ken Bouchard WRO3-2 | Fri May 25 1990 14:16 | 5 |
| Sounds like employees in every country but the US get showered with
time off.Wonder if that is taken into account when it's time to set pay
scales.
Ken
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| 703.37 | | WLDWST::KING | DIVERSIFICATION SPECIALIST | Sat May 26 1990 11:00 | 10 |
| > < Note 703.36 by SCCAT::BOUCHARD "Ken Bouchard WRO3-2" >
> -< but I'd rather be in the US >-
>
> Sounds like employees in every country but the US get showered with
> time off.Wonder if that is taken into account when it's time to set pay
> scales.
....or implementing wage freezes....
-pk
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| 703.38 | | RANGER::TARBET | Haud awa fae me, Wullie | Sun May 27 1990 08:19 | 2 |
| To put this in perspective, the holiday details for each country should
be set against the standard work week.
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| 703.39 | | BIGUN::SIMPSON | more CPU power than a toaster | Sun May 27 1990 21:27 | 9 |
| re .34
Yes. I'm W4 and it applies to me as well.
re .36, .37
What matters in determining pay scales etc, as you well know, is
whether you meet your goals or not. If your area can't meet its goals
despite fewer vacations then that's not my problem.
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| 703.40 | vacation hours calculation observation | NOVA::FISHER | DEC Rdb/Dinosaur | Mon Apr 12 1993 10:14 | 27 |
| Ok, here's a small gripe, but a gripe nonetheless:
on 3/19 I had 320 hrs vacation accrued, careless mistake on my part but
thats another matter.
on 3/22 and 3/23 I took 16 hours vacation, thus I can again accrue
vacation at the rate of 3.08 hrs/wk.
My complaint is in the way the add subtract gets done.
I think it should be
min([old total] - [hours taken] + [weekly allotment], 320)
so that at the end of the week, I have 307.08 hours available but
instead it is:
min([old total] + [weekly allotment], 320) - [hours taken] so that
at the end of the week it's 304 hours available.
Ahh, I see I can send an inquitry to canon::pay_question. I'll do
that.
(In reality I took the vacation days 3/15 & 3/16 but the card got sent
in late.)
ed
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