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Conference 7.286::digital

Title:The Digital way of working
Moderator:QUARK::LIONELON
Created:Fri Feb 14 1986
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:5321
Total number of notes:139771

687.0. "Exploring Changing Fields within DEC" by BUSY::KLEINBERGER (Most of an angel is in the inside) Tue Jan 03 1989 18:50

    I was wondering how one might go about changing non-engineering
    fields within DEC?
    
    Background info: A person has a BS in Management Information Systems,
    and is currently working on a Masters in Business Administration, and
    is in the middle of the level categories within DEC (say 7 to 9).
    
    Problem: The person wants to leave the MIS world, and explore other
    worlds within DEC. I know of recommending marketing, or perhaps
    a project manager for some engineering project, or perhaps teaching
    in Bedford,  but even in suggesting those three fields, I wouldn't
    know how to point them in any direction in changing fields.
    
    Who would one talk with (besides the obvious, their PSA)...  how
    would a resume be different than in their chosen field?
    
    How hard is it in DEC to change a complete field if you're not
    going from a non engineering job to an engineering job with a new
    degree?
    
    How would one find out about people in other fields to go talk
    to to explore those fields (any fields)?
    
    Any help would be greatly appreciated....
    
    Gale
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687.1here's a startFSTVAX::FOSTERFrankWed Jan 04 1989 08:0737
>    Who would one talk with (besides the obvious, their PSA)... 

	Start with your own manager.  Also talk to your local recruiter 
	as well as those in some "target" areas.    

	Read the VTX JOBS book and the JOBS notesfile.  Contact people 
	who have openings in fields you might be interested in.  If the 
	job is not what you want, ask for an informational interview.
	You may want to post a resume in JOBS, but I'd recommend being
	fairly specific about what you are looking for.

	Find people who do the jobs you might be interested in.  Ask
	them for informational interviews, and/or ask them to put
	you in touch with their managers.

>    How hard is it in DEC to change a complete field if you're not
>    going from a non engineering job to an engineering job with a new
>    degree?

	A lot easier at DEC than many other places, but you must be
	patient.  I did it once, but it took 2 years.
    
>    How would one find out about people in other fields to go talk
>    to to explore those fields (any fields)?

	Friends of friends.

	Read work-related notesfiles which cater to people in those
	fields.  Then contact people who seem approachable (ie. 
	people whose names you've become familiar with in other
	notesfiles, etc.)

These are some ideas off the top of my head....I'm sure others will
have more.

Frank
687.2An MBA Paves The Way...AKOV76::BIBEAULTUnlimited PossibilitesWed Jan 04 1989 09:1739
    Within Digital, switching between organizations should be a piece
    of cake, particularly if Engineering (where the standards are somewhat
    more rigid) is excluded.
    
    I have had 4 different positions in DEC spanning 4 separate job
    code categories:
    
    	Inventory Planner	Materials
    	Financial Analyst	Finance
    	Principal SW Spec*	SWS*
    	Consultant		Finance
    
    * This job was subsequently reclassified to a DIS job code, I think,
      Consultant B

    Outside of DEC, I've been a:

	Cost Accountant		Finance
	Systems Analyst		SWS (-like) External Consulting...
	Accounting Manager	Finance

    and have acted as Project Manager on many projects both within and
    outside of Digital.

    Having an MBA helps - many different jobs and organizations have
    this attribute as common demoninator in what they're looking for.
    
    I would be happy to share my experiences, answer any questions,
    etc. 

    I may be able to be MOST helpful to those interested in a Finance
    job. We have an ON-GOING need for systems-oriented persons who can
    talk debits and credits in addition to bits and bytes. If that person
    is also fairly knowledgeable in Rdb/VMS, data management and/or CASE 
    tools, there might be IMMEDIATE interest...

    Best of Luck,
    Bob
    
687.3DEBIT::CAREERNEWVAX::PAVLICEKZot, the Ethical HackerWed Jan 04 1989 11:485
    You might want to ask this question in the DEBIT::CAREER conference
    (if you haven't already).  I'm not a regular reader there, but I
    think the readership there might have opinions on this sort of thing.
    
    Press KP7 or SELECT...