Title: | The Digital way of working |
Moderator: | QUARK::LIONEL ON |
Created: | Fri Feb 14 1986 |
Last Modified: | Fri Jun 06 1997 |
Last Successful Update: | Fri Jun 06 1997 |
Number of topics: | 5321 |
Total number of notes: | 139771 |
Can any one out there identify with this... q From the Latest Australian Computerworld Guest Column by John Barnes, who is the Pacific Northwest Area manager for ADB, a High Tech Marketing Organization. LET'S HEAR IT FOR THE VETERANS. I call them undervalued veterans. These are the people who are genuine experts in their field but whom people seldom listen to. An undervalued veteran is usually a tremendous unexploited resource, a wonderful store of experience and expertise with a gut level understanding of what is going on. It is possible that you have such a person in your MIS shop -- someone whom you are not using to the fullest potential? Here are some of the marks of the undervalued veteran: * His work seems extremely demanding and complicated, yet his reports are laconic. "We got it working again" or "It went out on time, but we had to push a little" might be all that you hear. * The chances are that he got into computers through some irregular channel a long time ago. He often had the least formal education of anyone at the same level in the company. This may well explain why someone who has been doing a demanding job consistently well has never been promoted. * An undervalued veteran hates meetings and hates them for constructive reasons. Undervalued veterans would rather be doing their jobs than discussing them. They often find reasons not to attend meetings. When they do attend, they put most of their effort into getting out. * Probably because they are undervalued, many of them have intellectually demanding hobbies to which they devote most of their free time. Their offices and desks may be decorated with anything from chess tournament results to tiny hand built working model steam engines or ham radio cards. * Undervalued veterans are frequently loners. When they socialize with coworkers they tend to socialize oddly, often with people considerably above them or below them in corporate rank. They seldom talk about work at lunch or at company gatherings and tend to choose friends that they consider to be interesting people rather than politically helpful contacts or peers. * They tend to be well read outside the computer field. * Often they are described as sour or as having attitude problems and having hostility to new ideas. Not every cranky curmudgeon is an undervalued veteran, but many undervalued veterans come across as cranky curmudgeons. Some might say this personality develops because the veterans are undervalued or that it is because bright idiosyncratic people who cannot or will not play up to the boss -- people too valuable to fire and too unpleasant to promote -- tend to become undervalued veterans. Ignoring them seems to be a common vice among recently hired people with business degrees. The undervalued veteran can be used as a private back channel of information. If asked, he can provide you with priceless oral history on what actually, as opposed to officially, was the basis for long-ago decisions and designs. Most of the undervalued veterans hate to write, even though they can potentially write very well. They suspect that there written reports are being ignored. You will almost always get more information from them face-to-face. These veterans make perfect Devil's advocates. If there is something that you do not like about an idea, but cannot put your finger on it, get his off-the-record comments. If you need a new area researched and capsulised, consider putting your undervalued veteran on the job. He will not waste your time with too long a report.
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668.1 | I knew they would find me ..... | NICLUS::FOLEY | Rebel without a Clue | Mon Nov 21 1988 22:07 | 5 |
Oh No!! I've been found out!!!!! mike | |||||
668.2 | Proven ways to find people who are somehow different | DENTON::AMARTIN | Alan H. Martin | Tue Nov 22 1988 08:19 | 4 |
I like the way that some of the tips for recognizing an undervalued veteran are the same as in two other popular articles, "Your pet may be a space alien" and "Your coworkers may be space aliens". /AHM | |||||
668.3 | ASD::DIGRAZIA | Tue Nov 22 1988 12:49 | 10 | ||
Jeeez... .0 is _eerie_ ... downright uncanny. Speaking as a space alien, I find the bit about new ideas inverted. "Graduates", recent or otherwise, tend to believe they've learned the latest & greatest, and any departure therefrom is suspect -- excepting graduates of programs that teach the pursuit of novelty. Regards, Robert. | |||||
668.4 | looking in a mirror | IND::TRILLANA | Thu Dec 01 1988 10:54 | 4 | |
I didnt know you knew me, but as I read this I thought it was about me (I dont consider myself vain) anyhow it was great reading!!!! Thanks! | |||||
668.5 | When I Grow Up, Maybe? | MTADMS::JOHNSON | Rob -- Ski COLORADO! It's AWESOME! | Mon Feb 06 1989 08:58 | 4 |
My question -- does an 'undervalued veteran' EVER BECOME a 'valued veteran'? Signed -- another undervalued veteran! | |||||
668.6 | probably not! | NCPROG::PEREZ | Out Dancing with Bears! | Thu Feb 09 1989 10:00 | 5 |
Not until you stop being efficient, hard-working, curmudgeonly, learn to LIKE meetings instead of skipping them, and associate with the right people instead of interesting ones. D | |||||
668.7 | Oh well, | SKIVT::HEARN | Thu Feb 09 1989 15:06 | 8 | |
'tis the way it goes... You do, at least, get the satisfaction of knowing you're not 'kissing' anything. Rich | |||||
668.8 | Undervalued by Whom? | MOCA::BELDIN | Dick Beldin | Mon Aug 21 1989 14:29 | 12 |
There is little reason for concern here. Most of the people who match this description don't really care that much for the opinion of 'other people' (I know I don't). I do what I can do best. If there are some who don't understand or don't value my efforts, I just don't care. There are plenty of people who appreciate the help I have been able to give them over the years. The last thing I want is to become a 'public figure', about whom everyone is gossiping. Regards, Dick |