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602.1 | Watch what you wish for -- you might get it! | YUPPIE::COLE | You have me confused with someone who gives a &^*&% | Tue Aug 30 1988 16:32 | 2 |
| The first thing a CIO might do is turn off all the NOTES servers until
someone could "standardize" how NOTES are used! ( not totally :>) )
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602.2 | Possible | SEAPEN::PHIPPS | Mike @DTN 225-4959 | Tue Aug 30 1988 18:43 | 3 |
| >someone could "standardize" how NOTES are used! ( not totally :>) )
Dont' be too sure 8^)
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602.3 | The flow downhill will only be quicker | MERIDN::BIAZZO | Can tune a VAX but can't tuna fish | Tue Aug 30 1988 22:22 | 10 |
| Re .0
Sure, let's get another six figure salary up in the puzzle palace
to decree the wrath of "fat in the field" that much more.
His claim to fame will probably be chargeback (via payroll deduction)
for computer resources consumed by employees using notes.
A disgruntled re-tooled fieldnoid
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602.4 | Keep those notes files free! | GUIDUK::BURKE | NEVER confuse Sales with Delivery! | Wed Aug 31 1988 02:42 | 13 |
| Re: .3
Please don't even suggest chargeback. If any of the budget buster
accounting types in corporate ever learn how to user notes, they are
liable to read your (intentionally and obviously absurd to us field
people) statement, and implement it.
That would do to internal communication what cutting car plan A
is going to do for tranportation!
Another happy free-noter,
Doug
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602.5 | We have one | SCOPE::CODY | Walls of Silence | Wed Aug 31 1988 09:29 | 87 |
| Is this what you mean by a CIO?
I N T E R O F F I C E M E M O R A N D U M
Date: 26-Aug-1988 01:40pm EDT
From: Bel Cross
CROSS.BEL AT A1 AT CORMTS AT CORE
Dept:
Tel No: 273-3464
TO: Distribution
Enter SH (Show Message Status) to see distribution list
Subject: CORPORATE INFORMATION SERVICES
As a result of the recent decision by Win Hindle and John Sims to
consolidate all Information Systems Resources supporting their
respective organizations, it is my pleasure to announce the appointment
of Mike Connor to the role of Manager, Corporate Information Services.
In this capacity, Mike will be responsible for providing the focal
point for Information Systems Resources supporting Corporate Operations
and Strategic Resources, including his current responsibility of
Information Security. Mike will be working with the DIS Headquarters
Management to identify the operational activities that will become part
of Corporate Information Services. Mike will also begin the process of
understanding what efforts are required to support our Information
Services Tool development activities. Mike will continue to be a
member of the DIS Management Committee, and will report directly to me.
Mike joined Digital in July 1981, and until 1984, was the Manager of
Corporate Finance and Administration Information Services. Between
1984 and 1988, he was the Manager of U. S. Operations. Mike has
recently had the responsibility for the Information Security Program.
Prior to joining Digital, Mike was General Manager of the Commercial
Systems Division, Softech Inc. and has had a variety of Software
Engineering responsibilities supporting commercial applications for
Fortune 100 customers.
Please join me in congratulating Mike on his new assignment, wishing
him continued success and giving him our full support.
I N T E R O F F I C E M E M O R A N D U M
Date: 12-Aug-1988 09:52am EDT
From: Win Hindle
HINDLE.WIN AT A1 AT CORMTS AT CORE
Dept:
Tel No: 223-2338
TO: Distribution
Enter SH (Show Message Status) to see distribution list
Subject: CORPORATE OPERATIONS AND STRATEGIC RESOURCES
*****************************************************************
* THIS MESSAGE IS FROM WIN HINDLE AND JOHN SIMS *
*****************************************************************
We have asked Bel Cross to consolidate all Information Systems
Resources into a single organization for Corporate Operations and
Strategic Resources. By taking advantage of a single focus and
having more coordination in corporate activities we will have a
more efficient and responsive Information Systems support.
Included will be the operational/tactical work that is presently
being done at DIS Headquarters.
Where there is a significant dependency on I.S. it may be
appropriate to continue to have a specialty I.S. group. We are
particularly looking for improved productivity in operations and
systems development.
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602.6 | | REGENT::POWERS | | Wed Aug 31 1988 10:09 | 10 |
| The 1 August 1988 issue of Datamation has a cover story on CIOs.
Relatively few large companies have a position titled CIO, though most
companies observe the function in some way or another.
But other replies have raised the issue of what is "information."
Most CIO/MIS situations connote financial information. I've never
seen references to engineering or manufacturing design information
expressly included. Documentation, user pubs, and the like are separate
as well. Since we do have NOTES and lots of on-line documentation,
would one assume that a CIO would have oversight of such "information?"
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602.7 | | MISVAX::ROSS | Just call me 'Pops' | Wed Aug 31 1988 10:54 | 18 |
| The fact that our Digital Information Systems function reports to Personnel
at the highest level is ludicrous... one could make a good case that it
should be the other way around.
Information management, security, integration and standardization should
not be such a mixed bag within a $11B company.
The key word this year seems to be "Enterprise". Does Digital's MIS
strategy represent "Enterprise computing"? How do we sell enterprise
computing when we can't even do it ourselves? We should make every
effort to become THE flagship enterprise computing environment with
consistency and integration of information across all organizations and
areas.
The first step (which I doubt will ever be taken) is to eliminate all
dependence on third party software which is in direct competition with
Digital products.
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602.8 | Don't let Sims' name scare you.... | YUPPIE::COLE | You have me confused with someone who gives a &^*&% | Wed Aug 31 1988 11:09 | 15 |
| < Note 602.7 by MISVAX::ROSS "Just call me 'Pops'" >
<The fact that our Digital Information Systems function reports to Personnel
<at the highest level is ludicrous... one could make a good case that it
<should be the other way around.
Looking at an Org chart, Bel Cross reports direct to Hindle, and
Conner will report to Cross. That doesn't sound like a Personnel slot to me.
Conner may have some dotted line to Sims, however.
I find it more encouraging that DIS is NOT under Finance and Admin. as
it is in a lot of our customers' shops. It is one level away from KO!
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602.9 | | SCOPE::CODY | Walls of Silence | Wed Aug 31 1988 11:39 | 4 |
| Bell Cross reports to John Sims, the latest org chart in the orange
book (Jan 1988) shows it that way. Sims is a direct reporty to Ken and
a member of the Executive Committee. His title is VP of
Personnel/Strategic Resources.
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602.10 | Time to update my wall hangings... | YUPPIE::COLE | You have me confused with someone who gives a &^*&% | Wed Aug 31 1988 13:40 | 5 |
| OOPS! Didn't read the fine print on my 4th level copy - 1986!
Thanks for the update.
At least we think our people are "Strategic Resources"!
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602.11 | What's so bad about using others stuff? | VAXRT::WILLIAMS | | Wed Aug 31 1988 13:46 | 4 |
| Using competition's systems is not a bad idea, we could call it
competitive analysis and help avoid group-think.
/s/ Jim Williams
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602.12 | Connor isn't the CIO | CEOSRV::CROWLEY | | Wed Aug 31 1988 14:06 | 22 |
| Re .5
>> < Note 602.5 by SCOPE::CODY "Walls of Silence" >
>> -< We have one >-
The two memos posted in .5 indicate that Mike Connor
is the IS Manager for Sims (Strategic Resources) and
Hindle (Corporate Operations). Sims' world includes
line responsibility for the Personnel organization
and the DIS Headquarters organization, for instance.
So Mike will be the line manager for all the IS folks
in those two organizations. It doesn't make him
manager of DT, for instance, nor of the DIS Architecture
group.
It seems that Mike will continue to be a fairly
high-level line IS manager, but he won't be the CIO
for the corporation. His boss, Bel Cross could
arguably fit that title. (And, arguably not.)
And even if there was one CIO, there would also be
120,000 "assistant" information officers.
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602.13 | | RAINBO::HARDY | | Wed Aug 31 1988 15:26 | 11 |
| Re .7:
>The first step (which I doubt will ever be taken) is to eliminate all
>dependence on third party software which is in direct competition with
>Digital products.
It would be wise to ensure that we can get the hardware to run the
software first.
Pat
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602.14 | Why should we? | HUMAN::CONKLIN | Peter Conklin | Fri Sep 02 1988 01:39 | 8 |
| "Why doesn't Digital have a Chief Information Officer?"
Why should we when we don't have a Chief Operating Officer?
Or a Chief Executive Officer?
Or even a Chairman?
It's just not DIGITAL's style to give out exhalted titles, or
exclusionary charters.
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602.15 | | 15048::FOLEY | Rebel without a Clue | Fri Sep 02 1988 06:08 | 8 |
| RE: .14
Agreed. And besides, Engineering would just go "Yea, right..."
and Manufacturing would never get the message..
It'll never happen in DEC..
mike@Cannes
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602.16 | | MISVAX::ROSS | What's up, Buckwheat? | Fri Sep 02 1988 11:30 | 27 |
| >< Note 602.14 by HUMAN::CONKLIN "Peter Conklin" >
> -< Why should we? >-
>
> "Why doesn't Digital have a Chief Information Officer?"
>
> Why should we when we don't have a Chief Operating Officer?
> Or a Chief Executive Officer?
> Or even a Chairman?
>
> It's just not DIGITAL's style to give out exhalted titles, or
> exclusionary charters.
The title is not the issue. The function is the issue.
Digital does not practice what it tries to sell in terms
of "enterprise computing" when it comes to information
systems. We have no standardization of tools or applications
across the DIS community. We have (what seems to be) a too
strong reliance on externally developed database products
and application development tools (1032, FOCUS, Powerhouse, etc.)
that are directly in competition with Digital's own engineered
products. We have a large number of redundant applications
being developed by each MIS group, sometimes within the same
building, because there are no Digital-approved versions.
If no one is responsible for resolving these issues, they
will never be resolved.
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602.17 | Tell DIS directly.. | DR::BLINN | He's not a *real* Doctor.. | Fri Sep 02 1988 11:35 | 5 |
| Perhaps some of the feedback on the failings of DIS to implement
an "enterprise computing" vision should be placed into the
DIS Vision Quest conference at IAMOK::VISION_QUEST.
Tom
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602.18 | It takes time to turn the ship.... | YUPPIE::COLE | You have me confused with someone who gives a &^*&% | Fri Sep 02 1988 12:05 | 5 |
| RE: .16, 17
DIS is aware of "enterprise computing", and is doing something about
it. In fact, the current DART program that is being used to leverage us into
the glass-house accounts came from our internal DIS experiences.
|