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Conference 7.286::digital

Title:The Digital way of working
Moderator:QUARK::LIONELON
Created:Fri Feb 14 1986
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:5321
Total number of notes:139771

599.0. "JEC etc." by WINERY::BOUCHARKE (Ken Bouchard WRO3-2 521-3018) Fri Aug 19 1988 15:38

Here's something hot off the press.(my press)
    
    JEC,the demise of plan "A" and the rumor of that early retirement
    plan,are all tied together.
    
    Comments?
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599.1Naw...CADSYS::RICHARDSONFri Aug 19 1988 16:1522
    You didn't say enough for us *to* comment on, Ken.
                  
    So, I will *guess*:
    
    I suppose the gist of this collection of rumors is supposed to be
    that the JEC found a bunch of overpaid and essentially useless
    employees who ought to 1) lose their company cars, and 2) be offered
    early retirement, to get them to leave, all in an effort to save
    money, right?      
    
    I'd be real surprised if the JEC found much of anything at all,
    as much as the diligent among us (me, for example) agonized over
    choosing the most accurate and most politically correct verbs to
    describe how we spend our time ("reading notes files while waiting
    for a product build to complete so I can test it"?  No, doesn't
    sound anywhere near technical enough for this job!).  I would guess
    it will quietly sink to the depths and never be heard from again,
    as a way the company spent money uselessly.
                     
    Alright, so I am feeling cynical on a Friday afternoon...
    
    /Charlotte
599.2naw...revisitedWINERY::BOUCHARKEKen Bouchard WRO3-2 521-3018Fri Aug 19 1988 18:079
.1>< Note 599.1 by CADSYS::RICHARDSON >
.1>                                  -< Naw... >-
.1>
.1>    You didn't say enough for us *to* comment on, Ken.
.1>                  
.1>    So, I will *guess*:

    .0 was meant to be vague.It expresses only my gut feeling.(oops,I
    forgot,this isn't SOAPBOX,no gut feelings)
599.3I think we have something hereEJMVII::BAYYou lead people, you manage thingsSat Aug 20 1988 02:107
    I think I agree with .0
    
    JEC was such an expensive flop, that 10,000 employees and the car
    plan have to be eliminated to cover the cost of it.
    
    :-)
    
599.4speculation?DWOVAX::YOUNGfeet of clay, too.Sat Aug 20 1988 10:398
    Re .0:
    
    Do you have ANY information that we do not?
    
    Or are you just speculating based on what we've seen in this notes
    file?
    
    --  Barry
599.5Open mouth, insert footOZZAIB::BAYYou lead people, you manage thingsSun Aug 21 1988 23:0315
    re .3 and .4
    
    Sorry,
    
    I'll try to resist poor attempts at humor in the future.  Please
    note on .3 the   <<<  :-)  >>>, an indication that the remark was
    not intended as a serious comment, but a rejoinder to the topic
    that the JEC and recent cost-cutting measures might somehow be related.
    
    I have no information indicating any such connection, and considering
    the emotional clime of this notesfile, perhaps an attempt at humor
    was misplaced at this time.
    
    Jim (who is trying to find a way to laugh at a $5000 pay cut)
    
599.6*I* thought .3 was a nice comic relief...GUIDUK::BURKENEVER confuse Sales with Delivery!Sun Aug 21 1988 23:371
    
599.7See LIVE WIREBARTLE::SELTZERRichard SeltzerFri Sep 09 1988 11:241
See LIVE WIRE.  An item entered today deals with this rumor.
599.8See 598.33DR::BLINNOpus for VEEP in &#039;88Fri Sep 09 1988 11:281
        Posted as note 598.33 in this conference.