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Conference 7.286::digital

Title:The Digital way of working
Moderator:QUARK::LIONELON
Created:Fri Feb 14 1986
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:5321
Total number of notes:139771

542.0. "Question on DEC and Outside Action" by BUSY::KLEINBERGER (A Wish'g Well Of Butterfly Tears) Thu May 19 1988 10:15

This topic is being written anonymously... You can reply here, or though
me, and I will forward on to the author...
    
    
Hi.  I am being put through the DEC disciplinary mill for allegedly
harrassing another employee.    

My defense (apart from making it known there was provocation)
will be that the "incidents" took place off DEC
property, outside DEC time, so are not an issue for DEC to resolve.

Is this defense valid?  Please mail me thru the moderators ASAP (today!)
if you dont want to reply here.    Anybody know any precedents?
T.RTitleUserPersonal
Name		DateLines
542.1Drastic action is called for here I believeSDSVAX::SWEENEYPatrick Sweeney DTN 352.2157Thu May 19 1988 13:565
    (1) IMMEDIATELY GET A LAWYER but until you do...
    
    (2) Refuse to participate in any way whatsoever with any action by
    "official Digital", no phone calls, meetings, etc. pending legal
    advice.
542.2All of .1 +GOOGLY::KERRELLI'm not a passenger...Fri May 20 1988 05:354
Start a notebook. Write down everything that is said to you in connection 
with the incident.

Dave.
542.3A Matter of PerceptionAPACHE::CLARKJander LivesFri Jun 03 1988 13:2313
    Policy leaves it wide open for interpretation.
    Harrassment is seen as work related no matter where it happens.
    If you are being fired get a lawyer.
    If all parties are being counselled to improve
    personal communication skills, valuing differences
    have it placed in your goal set for your next review
    work towards this improvement.
    
    Some good comes from all experiences.
    
    Been there.
    
    cbc
542.4Late yes, too late ? I hope not.CSC32::S_LEDOUXEvolution here I come!Wed Jul 20 1988 04:3112
It seems you've been put on the defensive.  If something between you and the
other party has so affected this other person that s/he's having trouble
functioning properly at work, then indeed, DIGITAL should be concerned.

On the other hand, since YOU'RE now on somebody's sh*t squared list because
of something that happend off DEC time/property/etc then you MUST get a
lawyer and get on the OFFENSIVE.  YOU are now being harrassed and have
DEFINITELY suffered a career-impacting episode and maybe financial hardship.

Haven't been there and don't want to be.

Scott.
542.5ActionACE::MOORETue Apr 24 1990 10:5118
    
    Action is what you dont take  when the other guy is bigger than you
    are.
    
    Our actions are our own; their consequences are not.
    
    Every action of our lives touches some chord that will vibrate in
    eternity.
    
    Having a great aim in life is important. So is knowing when to pull the
    trigger.
    
     If youre going to climb, youve got to grab the branches, not the
    blossoms.
    
    
    
                               Ray