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Conference 7.286::digital

Title:The Digital way of working
Moderator:QUARK::LIONELON
Created:Fri Feb 14 1986
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:5321
Total number of notes:139771

513.0. "Personal property?" by VIDEO::GRAHAM (Dr. John) Wed Apr 20 1988 13:03

Here's the situation:  Due to a back injury, my doctor recommended that I
get a different chair for my office, one which would offer better support
than the standard chairs DEC has.  I went through Health Services and 
gave copies of my medical records and memo from my doctor to Dr. Levin 
(sp?) who is or was one of DEC's medical consultants.  With his approval 
and the consent of my manager, my cost center purchased a new chair for 
me.
Now the problem: I got a new job in a different facility and my 
supervisor said I could take the chair with me.  After I left, my old 
manager (who now manages another cost center) took my chair and gave it
to his secretary, saying that the cost center owns it, he intends to 
keep it and that I should get my new manager to buy another one for me.
This means I have to go back to my doctor, get copies of medical 
records, order a new chair etc.
Question: Am I being out of line to ask for my chair?  I look at this as 
being similar to safety shoes.  The CC paid for them too, but I wouldn't 
expect them to keep them after I left.  How do you folks think this 
should be handled?

						JBG

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513.1This is what managers are forCVG::THOMPSONQuestion realityWed Apr 20 1988 13:4711
    This is a real gray area I think. Usually DEC owned special equipment
    is a matter of negotiation between CC managers. I've seen this happen
    with computer equipment all the time. I know people who have taken
    the same terminal from job to job for years. Usually the new CC
    takes over the deprecation costs.
    
    Seems like something like a medical related chair should happen
    easily. The way I'd handle it is to lay it all out for my new CC
    manager and ask him how *he/she* is going to handle it.
    
    			Alfred
513.2There shouldn't be any question!ARCHER::LAWRENCEWed Apr 20 1988 13:5517
I also have an orthopedic chair which I 'carried' with me from my last office.
There were no problems such as you outlined.  

Just a personal opinion - I think your current/last (?) manager is being really
unreasonable and should re-think this thing.  Maybe going over his head to
a higher manager would help?  Also, as the previous noter mentioned, asking 
your new manager for help sounds good.

As far as I'm concerned, DIGITAL bought this chair for ME so that I could
continue working.  Handing it over to a secretary who doesn't need it sounds
like gross extravagance (these things are really expensive!).  What would have
happened if it had been a wheelchair instead of an orthopedic chair?

Good luck.

Betty

513.3Old manager is not thinking about *OUR* company!MISFIT::DEEPWed Apr 20 1988 14:0119

.1 is correct in suggesting that you let your new manager handle the 
situation.

However, your old manager is not "doing the right thing" in my opinion.

Yes, _his_ CC paid for the chair ... out of a budget given to him by
_our_ company.   His secretary does not have a medical need for that
chair, or s/he should have received their own.   

The "right thing" to do, is for your old manager to let you have your
chair back, because if he doesn't, it costs the company more money to
buy you a new one.  In exchange, your current manager should provide
as a replacement, the standard chair that is probably ruining your back
right now.

You think these kids would learn to share their toys!   8^)

513.4oops!MISFIT::DEEPWed Apr 20 1988 14:036

Sorry... .2 slipped in while I was writing .3 ... but just to be even
more redundant...

Ditto to .2!
513.5DELNI::SILKserving timeWed Apr 20 1988 22:0314
    Actually, according to the nurse at our site, these good chairs
    aren't any more expensive than the regular, uncomfortable ones.
    (If we're thinking of the same types of chairs.)  They all cost
    something around $80 or so.
    
    Our nurse tried to get our new building outfitted with them, but she
    lost.  Lots of us old and decrepit folks as a result have brought in
    doctors' notes, etc. and gotten ADDITIONAL back-supportive chairs. 
    
    What a waste, huh?  All of those "regular" chairs wasted, when they
    could have bought some orthopedically correct chairs to begin with.
    
    Nina
     
513.6YVIDEO::TEBAYNatural phenomena invented to orderSun May 01 1988 05:5019
    I will only offer what I know. All so called medical chairs
    are charged to Health Services when bought. However, no clean
    paperwork transfer seems to exist to transfer these unless they
    exceed capital app. guidelines.
    
    I have somewhat of a wealth(hearsay and personal) on this topic.
    I do not worry so much about the chair as I do the job. Since
    I have been declared handicapped because of trying to get work
    tools which were prescribed by a doctor- I am very sensitive
    to this topic.
    
    IF YOUR BODY DOES NOT WORK-THAN YOUR MIND DOESN'T EITHER!
    
    PLEASE-
    
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