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Conference 7.286::digital

Title:The Digital way of working
Moderator:QUARK::LIONELON
Created:Fri Feb 14 1986
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:5321
Total number of notes:139771

503.0. "Reply to 1.13--Don't write during hours" by JGO::FITZGERALD (Maurice FitzGerald @JGO) Tue Mar 29 1988 05:37

    Reply to 1.13
    
    Peter,
    
    you have fallen into the old trap of thinking that DEC is a
    Massachusets company. Specifically, your work hours are offset by
    as much as 12 hours versus other peoples. It's a bit unrealistic
    to require people to write outside your work hours.
    
    My excuses if this was not your intention.
    
    Maurice (writing outside your work hours, but inside Dutch ones)
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503.1HANZI::SIMONSZETOSimon Szeto @HGO, HongkongWed Mar 30 1988 08:3710
    I remember the circumstances around which the original injunction
    was written.  At that time, it was absolutely necessary to make such
    a statement, because users of HUMAN hardly got their work done.
    It was necessary (at that time) to make people work around Maynard's
    working hours.
    
    Things may be the same or different now; I don't know.
    
  --Simon
    
503.2current NOTES load statusHUMAN::CONKLINPeter ConklinWed Mar 30 1988 20:5719
Back when we got hit with the original heavy traffic, we got great
emergency assistance from the NOTES developers. They introduced a
mechanism that limits the maximum number of notes links. This has allowed
us to manage the notes load on our system uniformly on a world-wide basis.
It also ensures that we have DECnet links left for real work.

However, the load keeps creeping up. We were hitting the 16 link limit all
the time. I upped the limit to 24 for notes (increasing the total DECnet
links, etc.). Again, we keep bumping into the limit. The message you get
is "Network Partner Exitted."

The new problem is that we have other conferences on this system. Some are
used for product design and support. These conferences become inaccessible
when DIGITAL has too much access load. Perhaps the NOTES developers will
implement what we really need which is per-conference link limiting. Then
we would also get a user-useful message.

Until then, please be considerate, especially if you want our product
developments to proceed in a timely fashion. Thank you.
503.3If it doesn't work, change systems not people...JOET::JOETDeatht�ngue lives!Thu Mar 31 1988 18:385
    Considering the popularity and relative importance of this conference,
    how about putting it up for adoption so that it can continue to be used
    in a reasonable fashion on a more hospitable machine? 
    
    -joe tomkowitz
503.4We're not all workaholicsMAY20::MINOWJe suis marxiste, tendance GrouchoThu Mar 31 1988 23:084
I wonder whether an East-coast working hours only policy is fair to
people who don't have terminals (and free time) at home.

Martin.
503.5Oh well, it's only the DIGITAL notesfile...PHAROS::DMCLUREPositively think!Fri Feb 23 1990 16:3832
	As hard as it is to get into this notesfile, you'd think that it
    must have all sorts of noting going on in here.  I've been trying to
    access this conference off and on for a couple of days now without
    success (this is typical too).  I finally get in and there are a
    whopping 4 new notes/replies to read.

	Then I noticed that HUMAN has the following conferences all
    stuffed on here:
			 ETIQUETTE
			 FONT_ARCHITECTURE
			 HANNAH
			 IDEAS
			 KERMIT
			 LEFTIES
			 NOTERS_SIG
			 NOTES_DIG
			 NO_SMOKING
			 PERSONAL_NOTES
			 PICK_OS
			 PRINTING_MODEL
			 SECURITY_INFORMATION
			 SECURITY_POLICY
			 SYSNOTES

	...you'd think that maybe with the recent Win Hindle memo which
    specifies the use of notesfiles as a first choice for information by
    the field that the DIGITAL notesfile itself might be placed on a system
    with a little more network bandwidth.

				   -davo

p.s.	And no, I don't have a system for you to use (not right now anyway).
503.6HANNAH::LASKOReal VTs have three digits or less...Sat Feb 24 1990 10:175
    I'll let someone else respond to the "bandwidth problem" but I'll note
    in passing that a few of the conferences in that list are old copies or
    pointers for conferences which moved to HANNAH several months ago.
    
    (To make *room* for DIGITAL--yeah, that's the ticket.  :-))
503.7use SHOW KEYWORD rather than DIR/KEYWORDXANADU::FLEISCHERwithout vision the people perish (381-0899 ZKO3-2/T63)Tue Mar 06 1990 17:2916
re Note 304.78 by VMSDEV::HALLYB:

> >              -< FYI   -   KEYWORDS are there for people to use >-
>     
>     Funny you should mention that.  I just did DIR/KEYWORD=HIRING and
>     waited 20 minutes with no response before ^Cing.  (At 0630 EST)
>   
>     Do you really expect people to use keywords with that kind of response?
  
        Use a command such as SHOW KEYWORD HIRING/FULL rather than
        DIR/KEYWORD=HIRING -- it's much faster (the DIR/KEYWORD
        command apparently has to check every note in the conference,
        whereas SHOW KEYWORD can just look up things in a keyword
        index).

        Bob
503.8VAX NOTES "command tuning", lesson 1.0.0VMSDEV::HALLYBThe Smart Money was on GoliathTue Mar 06 1990 20:106
    Re: .7
    
    Thank you Bob.  It is much faster.  Maybe that's what Alfred should
    have recommended in 304.77 too.  Wiser,
    
      John