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Conference 7.286::digital

Title:The Digital way of working
Moderator:QUARK::LIONELON
Created:Fri Feb 14 1986
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:5321
Total number of notes:139771

457.0. "Who covers windows with furniture?" by BMT::COMAROW (Resource wait state) Wed Feb 03 1988 17:25

    We have recently moved into a new facility at Wall Street.  Our
    cubicles cover the first 5 feet of the windows.  Its too late
    to do anything about them here, but we are also setting up another
    facility on LI, and from the blue prints it appears that we are
    repeating the same mistake.  
    
    With my managments permission, I investigated, and facilities said
    that this was the corporate standard.
    
    Anyone know anything about this?
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457.1please clarifyNETMAN::SEGERthis space intentionally left blankWed Feb 03 1988 19:516
Please define "cover".  Are you saying they are putting up walls directly in
front of the windows, thereby blocking them OR that the cubes are simply
butted up to the window so that the owner of the cube gets a great view and
nobody else does?

-mark
457.2QBUS::MITCHAMAndy in AtlantaThu Feb 04 1988 07:2810
    There are some areas in our current facility that have cube partitions
    directly against the wall (window).  This, I believe, has been
    recognized by facilities as not fully utilizing available space/light
    /etc. and, though there won't be any changes to the current floorplan,
    it has been taken into consideration for the new facility currently
    being developed. 
    
    In other words, I do not believe this is a corporate standard.
    
-Andy    
457.3The first five feet, above my line of visionBMT::COMAROWResource wait stateThu Feb 04 1988 08:379
    The cubicles are placed in such a way as to cover up the first 5
    feet of outside windows.  I'm told that this is the corporate standard
    at this point.  
    
    I think it is absurd.  Many studies indicate the importance of natural
    lighting to reduce the amount and eliminate views seems wrong. 
    
    Does anyone know where to actually bring this up?   Not a note file
    but someone with the power to actually discuss this issue. 
457.4Up the Mighty Ladder...USRCV1::DEEPRThu Feb 04 1988 09:288

I would ask the facilities manager where his directive came from, and start
climbing...  Covering the windows sounds very anti-productive to me!  Are you
on the first floor?  Can they possibly be worried about corporate spies peeking
in the windows?


457.5IND::COMAROWResource wait stateThu Feb 04 1988 12:311
    Actually, my cubicle on Wall Street is on the 13th floor.
457.6Fitup GuidelinesNIPA::JARRETTThu Feb 04 1988 13:3113
    Having been the program manager that was responsible for the
    construction and fitup of the CX03 facility in Colo Spngs, the corporate
    quideline for interior cubicle placement was that all perimeter
    windows would *not* be obstructed by cubicle partitians.  Normally,
    a perimeter aisleway of at least 4 ft width is constructed in front
    of the windows.
    
    Of course is applies to new construction, lease fitup may have
    different quidelines.

    
    -Wayne
    
457.7NETMAN::SEGERthis space intentionally left blankFri Feb 05 1988 18:237
For what it's worth when I was in Boxboro (that's in Mass for anyone who never
heard of it before), I had a window office and I can assure you the walls (which
were put up less than a year ago) did NOT cover the windows.  In fact I used the
sill as a shelf.  So if someone in your building thinks otherwise, at least 
point him/her to BXB.

-mark
457.8lkg, zk, bxb have aislesPOLICY::BRADLEYChuck BradleyMon Feb 08 1988 07:5910
the two buildings at lkg have an aisle in front of the windows.
the two buildings at bxb have an aisle in front of the windows.
the three buildings at zk have an aisle in front of the windows.

that is a sample of about 3000 cubes.

some offices in ML go up to the windows.  a few have furniture in front of
the window, but most do not.


457.9what's the point?NETMAN::SEGERthis space intentionally left blankMon Feb 08 1988 08:326
> the two buildings at bxb have an aisle in front of the windows.

I'm not sure what you're trying to say.  I agree that MANY wqindows at BXB have
aisles between then and the windows but certainly not ALL of them.

-mark
457.10BMT::COMAROWResource wait stateMon Feb 08 1988 08:542
    Does anyone know who might actually have decision making authority
    on this?
457.11Only slightly serious...ALBANY::KOZAKIEWICZShoes for industryMon Feb 08 1988 12:456
Is a little after-hours work with wrench and screwdriver out of the
question??? 

/Al

457.12Do you have a local "plant engineer"?DR::BLINNHe's not a real Doctor..Mon Feb 22 1988 13:4815
        If there is a corporate policy, then somewhere there's a person
        who made the policy.  That person is clearly the decision maker.
        
        There's doesn't appear to be a "corporate" plant engineering
        office, at least, not that's listed in the "classified" part
        of the Digital Telephone Directory.
        
        If you really want to "work" this, start up your management
        chain, and don't take "NO" for an answer until you find the
        person who made the decision.
        
        Clearly, if there is a corporate policy, it is NOT uniformly
        or widely implemented.
        
        Tom