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Name | Date | Lines |
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| 400.1 | | ULTRA::HERBISON | Less functionality, more features | Mon Oct 05 1987 12:26 | 11 |
| From the context you gave, the reply does seem out of line.
I don't read the conference, so I don't know the complete
context of the situation. There may be many other notices in
the conference about PLOT11 support, the lack of documentation,
and about your particular problem which may explain (but not
excuse) the response you received.
However, this discussion seems more appropriate for
HUMAN::ETIQUETTE than for HUMAN::DIGITAL.
B.J.
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| 400.2 | Private mail time | DECWIN::FISHER | Burns Fisher 381-1466, ZKO1-1/D42 | Mon Oct 05 1987 18:38 | 9 |
| Personally, I think this discussion belongs in private mail between
the two individuals involved. That usually works much better than
engaging each other in public shooting matches. A letter starting
"I'm sorry I offended you, but I don't understand what the offense
is" might do wonders.
Burns
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| 400.4 | German-English Translation? | STAR::BOUCHARD | I have nothing to say | Thu Oct 08 1987 23:57 | 8 |
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I can't say if this is the the case, but the PLOT11 author is in
Germany, and presumably English is not his native language. When
I was working with some folks in Germany things would sometimes
get lost in translation, and in this case your criticism may have
been translated as being more serious than intended...
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| 400.5 | .4 restored | STAR::BOUCHARD | I have nothing to say | Thu Oct 15 1987 22:41 | 10 |
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Our friendly moderator Mr. Covert set my previous note hidden to
spare me the embarrassment of being incorrect about the PLOT11 author
being in Germany. I remember the PLOT11 conference as being on
KBOV05 in Germany, but it may have moved, or I may have been mistaken.
In any case the point I was trying to make still stand -- always
make allowances for differences in communication style when dealing
with people electronically -- don't take insult over something unless
you are sure insult was intended!
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| 400.6 | | COVERT::COVERT | John R. Covert | Thu Oct 15 1987 23:04 | 5 |
| I hid the note because Simon Clinch (who is in Germany) was offended by the
reply by Julian Wolff (who is in Tewksbury). The Plot-11 conference is, in
fact, in Kaufbeuren.
/john
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| 400.7 | Since you are talking about me.... | WAYWRD::WOLFF | I feel the need, the need for speed | Wed Oct 28 1987 15:59 | 55 |
| Since I heard the discussions about me, without me, are going
on here, I would like to submit my final answer (7-Oct-87).
I have to admit I felt very bad and insulted about the wording of
this note of Simon. This is usual not the way I react to questions
in my notesfile. So have set the note hidden after I though about
it and wrote another answer which I'll post here:
If Simons intensions were different than what I understood, then
I would like to excuse me, if this makes a difference to him, the
answer was not appropriate in this case.
<<< KBOMFG::USER11:[NOTES$LIBRARY]PLOT11.NOTE;1 >>>
-< Plot-11 The color hardcopy software >-
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Note 60.2 Error message deciphering/debug information wanted 2 of 2
WAYWRD::WOLFF "I feel the need, the need for speed" 34 lines 7-OCT-1987 18:02
-< Second try...to proof I am not that bad. >-
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Well,
after I thought about it, and actually I am not such a bad guy I
think I should take a second cut on this.
If Simon, you would have worded it differenty I would have answered
in a normal way, like I always do. But this sounded so ironic and
sounded in my ears like 'What shit did you produce Julian...' that
I felt somehow I don't have to deal with this.
The error messages:
You're right they are useless, actually this one only is useless
the compiler has an build in error handler which directs all errors
it can't deal with to a 'last chance' handler, this one does not
fill in the correct error parameters but just prints the primary
signalled condition. Maybe I change it if I got time, unfortunalty
I have very little time these days.
The documentation, this is a big thing, I know it is somewhat 2
pages and total out of date. Maybe I think most of the time everything
is mostly selfexplanatory and I can't be so hard to type in 3 commands
this maybe wrong, but there is online help if you installed it correct.
And one thing to the error message, did you edit and execute PLOTSTART
most people don't although it is mentioned with uppercase letters
in the install procedure and it also has a 'Please' in it.
Julian.
PS. Hope that answers your question.
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