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Conference 7.286::digital

Title:The Digital way of working
Moderator:QUARK::LIONELON
Created:Fri Feb 14 1986
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:5321
Total number of notes:139771

384.0. "Using the right tool for the job?" by REGENT::EPSTEIN (Bruce Epstein) Tue Sep 15 1987 10:18

    The discussion about OA, and in particular the comments about "using
    the right tool for the job", has brought this issue to the surface.
    
    I am seeing several similar analogies being made in several notesfiles,
    applying to several very diverse products:
    
    1. "Like using a Winnebago to drive to church"
    2. "Like using a Porche to go to the grocery store"
    
    Is this because (for non-bias, I continue the automotive analogies):
    
    a) our product lines have gaps in them (e.g. we don't make station wagons)
    b) our product lines are so full that it's hard to discern which
    product is correct (e.g. can't decide between a Nova, a Spectrum,
    and a Cavalier)
    c) our products are so good that customers are using them for
    applications  other than their original intent (e.g. using a VW
    Bug to pull a house trailer)
    d) other?
    
    Thanks,
    
    Bruce
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384.1product positioningSDSVAX::SWEENEYTue Sep 15 1987 13:5913
    What .0 discusses is pretty much elementary marketing: product
    positioning,
    
    The standard steps in strategic marketing are: Identify opportunities
    (what can we do well, how can we make money), Identify the market
    (who are our customers going to be), Position product (what do we
    design, build, and sell).
    
    The marketing variables: Product, price, promotion, place (ie
    distribution channels)
    
    Things like how is UNIX positioned, or how our workstations are
    positioned have been discussed in ASIMOV::MARKETING.
384.2my voteSAUTER::SAUTERJohn SauterWed Sep 16 1987 10:052
    re: .0--b & c.
        John Sauter
384.3Some (hopefully narrowing) holes...THE780::FARLEEDyslexics Untie!!Wed Sep 16 1987 15:3026
    I'm afraid that I have to disagree.  For the ground that we cover,
    we do it extremely well, but there are large gaps (read opportunities)
    on both ends.  We seem to be addressing the larger end of the spectrum
    but I think that we have significant problems in dealing with the
    small (personal system) end of the market.
    
    Note that in both of your examples:
    
    >1. "Like using a Winnebago to drive to church"
    >2. "Like using a Porche to go to the grocery store"
    
    they both imply overkill.
    
    A Microvax II (III) is a wonderful machine!  I wish I had one under
    my desk! but could I really justify it for a job that could
    realistically be done by a micro at 1/4 the price?  Not likely.
    
    There was a long, detailed discussion on just this topic in the
    Macintosh notesfile (VIKING::$2$DUA9:[WASSER]MACINTOSH , KP7, select,
    etc) topic 943.  I thought that it presented a fairly well reasoned,
    balanced discussion.  However the makeup of the conversation was
    obviously skewed.  I would be very interested in hearing the responses
    of a wider audience.
    
    Kevin
    
384.4a car that seats 8, gets 50 MPG, and 0-60 in 9 secREGENT::EPSTEINBruce EpsteinThu Sep 17 1987 10:5915
    Hate to diagree, but "using a Porche to go to the grocery store" is
    *not* overkill; imagine trying to stuff a month's worth of groceries
    into it - it just won't do a job it's not designed for.  What the
    analogy is driving at (no pun intended) is that perhaps we have
    neglected the needs of an 'average' user who needs an inexpensive,
    reliable workhorse rather than a high performance specialized product.
    Or maybe, what the customer wants is an inexpensive, reliable, high
    performance product which can also do the everyday tasks without
    sacrificing anything (sort of like a $10K Porche station wagon).
    However, trying to fulfill this need may be as difficult as it would be
    to actually produce a Porche wagon...  By the way, the particular
    product which this analogy applies to is NOT a workstation (in fact,
    it's not a general purpose computer at all).
    
    Bruce 
384.5A disclaimer :-)REGENT::EPSTEINBruce EpsteinThu Sep 17 1987 12:053
    Before I get into any (more) trouble, let me state that I have
    never owned a Porsche (which I have now learned how to spell ;-),
    a Winnebago, or a station wagon.