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Conference 7.286::digital

Title:The Digital way of working
Moderator:QUARK::LIONELON
Created:Fri Feb 14 1986
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:5321
Total number of notes:139771

379.0. "Any policies on office relocation?" by MDKCSW::PRESTON (Beware of Penguin Lust) Tue Sep 08 1987 22:33

Rumor central has it that we, the Kansas City Branch office, will be moving
to a new location in the not so distant future.  This has brought to mind
several questions:

	Who or what group(s) within DEC get to decide where (location wise)?
	What factors are taken into consideration ( $/sq ft, site access, ect?)

	Is it a local office's or a district office's decision?  Or other?

	Do the employees get to have any input as to the location, size, ect?
	And even once the choice is made, who decides where people and objects
	are to be located?

	RE Note 362, Is the "office of the future" concept an absolute for 
	   a "new" facility or is it "just a good time" to implement such 
	   a plan?

	Who (physically) perform the move?  Contracted services?  Does Field
	Service perform/oversee the "de-installation" and "re-installation" of
	computer hardware and communications lines?


	Lastly, maybe someone can share some problems that they have 
	experienced following a location move (other than horror stories of
	lost articles) to give us an idea of what to look out for...?
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379.1My office was here yesterday...!PH6VAX::MCLAUGHLINWed Sep 09 1987 12:1222
	>Who or what group(s) within DEC get to decide where (location wise)?

	  I think it might be the Facilities Manager along with a district?
	  management team.

	>Do the employees get to have any input as to the location, size, ect?

	  Every body has input, even if you have to "corner" the Facilities Mgr
	  and blast him with a lot of questions. ;-)

	>Who (physically) perform the move?  Contracted services?  Does Field
	>Service perform/oversee the "de-installation" and "re-installation" of
	>computer hardware and communications lines?

	  We had a local moving company move eveything with F.S. de-installing
	  and re-installing the hardware.  F.S. did a great job and it took one
	  night to move everything.  We shutdown all systems, backed up all 
	  disks, and moved everything on a Friday night and we were up and 
	  running on Monday morning.

	Jack

379.2here today, gone tomorrow?MAMTS6::BACKERMANEnd-of-the-Rainbow_SeekerWed Sep 09 1987 15:2328
    Funny that this note was created.  We in Lynchburg are also involved
    in this type of thing.  All we've been told is that the "business"
    and competition to be visible in a larger city, along with a bigger
    airport is driving the issue of moving to Roanoke, Virginia.
    
    Who or what groups decide on the location?  It begins at the local
    management level and must proceed up the chain of command to obtain
    district, area, etc. approval.  I think cost $/sq ft is a factor
    but from what we've been told, bottom line it should be a business
    decision and in the best interests of the company to move.
    
    Do employees have any input as to location, size, etc?  We haven't.
    Size is determined by head-count; so many sq feet/person.  Location,
    in our circumstance, will be determined by area real-estate folks
    who will case the area, come up with 3 (I think) choices.  How 1
    of those 3 is chosen I don't know.
    
    As far as who decides where people and objects will be located,
    once again in our case, it seems to be the managers in charge of
    the people who will determine who will move where along with the
    equipment.  In our case, we've been told that since the move is
    as far as it is (over 50 miles easy), the people who are chose to
    move will be given the option to commute or will, under the Policies
    and Procedures Guidelines, be given full relocations.
    
    Hope this helps some.
    cheers,
    Billie
379.3KLAATU::THIBAULTIs it live, or is it SIMUL?Wed Sep 09 1987 15:5311
Can't say as I've ever lost anything during one of those moves except
time. More than once I've been moved to a new location only to find that
phones, LATS or electricity haven't been connected to the office. The office
I'm currently in doesn't even have an electrical outlet so I have extensions
into someone else's office.

Last time they moved my group to a different location we discovered that they
didn't have enough office space so we had 3 to an office...sigh..

Jenna
379.4Off the subject, but some suggestionsOVDVAX::ROTHThrow the switch and run!Thu Sep 10 1987 23:0918
Don't let'em cheap out... make sure they run DEConnect wiring everywhere
(data and thinwire). Then they can buy only the active components that they
need right now.

Make sure they run the Orange Hose (Ether backbone) through the building
enough so that if someone decides to put in a cluster of equipment
somewhere they can tap on easily.

Make sure all the conf. rooms get video cable back to SER room/closet.

Plan for a run of video cable from the roof to the sattelite equipment room
so you can (if you are lucky, we aren't) begf them to install a dish for
DVN (Digital Video Network) reception.

A few hints from somone that has been living in underwired buildings during
his 11 years at DEC.

Lee
379.5Me againOVDVAX::ROTHThrow the switch and run!Thu Sep 10 1987 23:1822
Another thought...

Make noises to your immediate manager. Make sure your function is
represented in some facility team meetings (voice of experience).

A few years ago there was rumor (false) at our site of a move to a
different part of town. A subset of the rumor was that most sales mgrs
lived in this ritzier part of town and it would be less of a drive for them
than the present location- thus the pressure to relocate.

Then another rumor said that "corporate" people were always involved in
the selection of sites and that they would give consideration as to where
the bulk of the employees lived before selecting a site.

All of this is rumor/smalltalk and don't know if any of it will help.

If you have any kind of relationship with your manager I would discuss
these issues with them and have them find out some real answers. A facility
move has a large impact on everyone.

Lee
379.6some thoughts based on experienceHUMAN::CONKLINPeter ConklinThu Sep 17 1987 23:0933
    There are some things that tend to be chosen by corporate groups
    or policies, such as the actual site, office sizes, and security.
    But the group management can make a move be a positive experience
    by doing several things:
    
    o	Recognize that a move is a major event and potentially a real
    	impact on morale. Thus, management must be directly involved
    	and committed to the move's success.
    
    o	Set up a committee of employees empowered to worry about the
    	"quality of life" in the new facility. Give them major influence
    	in things like decor, selection of food services, and names
    	of conference rooms. If everyone feels involved, the results
    	will be much more positive.
        
    o	Put someone full time in charge of the move. Plan carefully.
    	Make sure that wiring, power, etc. are all in place ahead of
    	the move date. Contract for Field Service to move the equipment
    	over the weekend.
    
    o	Make the move weekend be a group event. Have everyone involved.
    	Pack Friday. Unpack Monday. Supply pizza and soft drinks and
    	have everyone including all the management pitch in and help
    	get the work done.
    
    o	Recognize that for several weeks after the move, everyone will
    	find minor missing things. Put up flip chart holders with
    	designated people to work every issue/request posted. Show the
    	progress. (Even the best planning forgets to supply wastebaskets,
    	or hang plants, or deliver new phone books!)
    
    o	Spend time with all the employees. If relocations are involved,
    	get the families involved as well.