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Conference 7.286::digital

Title:The Digital way of working
Moderator:QUARK::LIONELON
Created:Fri Feb 14 1986
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:5321
Total number of notes:139771

166.0. "the latest WANG job action" by OLORIN::SEGER () Wed Jul 30 1986 13:41

I'm not really sure if this belongs here, but if it doesn't, I'm sure I'll
hear about it.

I was just talking to a friend who works at Wang and he filled me in on the
details of their latest layoff (they don't see it as one).

The program is based on early retirement insentives and is only open to
selected groups, specifically excluding anyone technical.  For people over 45
and with the company for 5 years they offered 4 months salary and full pension!
If they were with Wang less than 5 years I think they got half pension (but
I'm not sure). Under 45 they got either 3 or 4 months pay. 

Anyhow, it sounds real good on paper, but I wonder if someone had been at a 
company for only 5-10 years, is a full pension really all that much?

Like I said, I don't know why I'm putting this in here.  I certainly don't want
to imply that Digital is planning anything similar to this, but thought it might
generate some interesting discussion.

-mark
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166.1through the grapevineMRSVAX::DMCLUREVaxnote your way to ubiquityTue Aug 05 1986 17:3411
	I know of someone at Wang who applied for this "voluntary retirement"
    (or whatever they call it), but his manager blocked his leaving because
    they considered him to be too valuable to the company.  I gather from this
    that it is merely another layoff disguised as a new company benifet for
    the sake of public relations and morale.

	This same guy is leaving the company anyway to form his own new venture
    startup, but will not be recieving the same benifets as the people this
    action is designed to weed out.

							-DAV0
166.2these things get complicatedDELNI::GOLDSTEINhand me the pliers!Mon Aug 11 1986 18:2913
    Another of the Wang Variations.  A friend of mine, who has not exactly
    been in a mutual admiration society with his managers though his
    work is more than adequate, applied for the voluntary layoff even
    though he was not really eligible (R&D employees weren't).  He was,
    of course, turned down.  Now, he can't be fired easily because it
    would look as if they were trying to screw him out of his bennies.
    In other words, by asking to be laid off, he's become harder to
    fire on the manager's whim.
    
    Another angle:  I see Maynard NPO (plant) has a new program to _rehire_
    retirees for part-time assignments.  Is this in its own way a little
    poke at Wang, by doing exactly the opposite (voluntary un-retirement)?
    At least it shows who's doing how well this year...
166.3just vested, yes?REGENT::MERRILLWin one for the Glypher.Tue Aug 19 1986 13:1510
    re: .0 I'm sure "full pension" should read "fully vested" [in rights
    to receive pension when over 65]; and you are right, not only would
    the pension for 5 yrs be small but it'll be even smaller in 65-45
    years!
    
    They should offer a microvax to anyone who "retires" - that oughta
    get 'em!
    
    	RMM