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162.1 | my priorities | DSSDEV::SAUTER | John Sauter | Fri Jul 25 1986 08:54 | 11 |
| Really all three are related. You know your manager is sincere
in his praise if you get a good raise (meaning that others in the
department get less) and if you get, e.g., to go to DECUS, meaning
someone else in the department doesn't go. Also, going to DECUS
gets you lots of praise from your peers, since customers send people
just like you to DECUS and they are always glad to boost the egos
of Digital employees (I speak from personal experience).
My priorities are, first, recognition; second, goodies; third, money.
Best, of course, would be all three.
John Sauter
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162.2 | another one | TIGEMS::ARNOLD | Never play leapfrog with a unicorn | Fri Jul 25 1986 10:07 | 18 |
| From my experience (both personal & my former peer group), the field
(at least sws where I was) was very lax about rewards for a one-time
super-human effort. To get 2 or 3 of your goodies, that super-human
effort would have to be expended at a continuous output rate.
There was a single solitary time when a reward was given me for
a time when several of us worked (literally) *all* weekend to get
a benchmark completed, using DBMS which none of us knew anything
about. I had been scheduled to attend a 2-week training class at
the University of DEC (Bedford) a few weeks later. My manager said
that he appreciated the benchmark effort, and changed the location
of my course from Bedford to Los Angeles.
Some may think "6 of one, half dozen of the other", but from my
own perspective, at least it was recognition, and I knew the manager
realized the effort & commitment to get the job done.
Jon
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162.4 | Alternatives should be rethought (.0) | JAWS::AUSTIN | Tom Austin @UPO - Channels Marketing | Fri Jul 25 1986 14:27 | 7 |
| #1 is defined in impossible terms. A manager cannot automatically
grant a 25% increase. That or any special increase outside of the
ordinary must be explained very carefully and justified up through
channels where it will be pushed on, probed, questioned and discouraged
unless there are very, very compelling reasons for granting it.
Thus, to accomplish a MAJOR increase your manager would have to
give you a lot of publicity up the chain...
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162.5 | Door #1, door #2, or door #3? | CSTVAX::MCLURE | Vaxnote your way to ubiquity | Fri Jul 25 1986 14:49 | 8 |
| How about a choice? Why not lay out various optional rewards which
the good performer could then choose from. I am currently trying to
save money to buy a house and get out of my renter-rut, so I would opt
for money over trips, recognition, etc. But, I think that maybe later
in my career (after I already have my 50 acre estate - ar ar!), I may be
more interested in traveling, and fame/recognition.
-davo
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162.6 | What's important? | MMO01::PNELSON | Searching for Topeka | Fri Jul 25 1986 20:52 | 12 |
| Recognition
Money
Goodies
The exception to that is if I get to choose my *OWN* goodies. For
example, one trip to DECworld is worth 10, no 20, free resort weekends
to me. If we could consider the things that are important to ME as
goodies, then that category becomes number 2 and money is number 3.
(^: Positive Pat :^)
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162.7 | | VIRTUE::HALLYB | Free the quarks! | Sat Jul 26 1986 16:24 | 15 |
| Another reward for superhuman results is stock options.
That's one thing the company can do that causes its people
to be concerned about the _company's_ health, and continue
to work hard.
That may not be forthcoming after running one benchmark,
but if you put together 3 or 4 such superhuman efforts then
your boss would be a damfool not to try to get you some.
Which would you New Englanders prefer: 10% increase, or
100 shares (@ $50/share anytime you want to buy), DECUS in
Australia, DECville in France, color GPX for your office,
or a (Bahamas) resort week in January?
John
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162.8 | $$$ Talks! | MILRAT::SEGAL | Len Segal | Sun Jul 27 1986 17:21 | 17 |
| I would opt for
1. Money!
2. Goodies (especially stock options)
3. Recognition (actually, you get this with 1. or 2. above)
To give someone a larger than planned for raise, or to recommend
someone for stock options requires a write-up of justification.
These proposals are then picked apart by higher management before
being approved or rejected. Thus, you get the recognition anyway!
[Many Mgrs will NOT put people in for unplanned increases (I realize
that it is very difficult to do under the current guidelines!) or
stock options, because they are skittish about having to justify
their positions in front of Group Managers, etc.]
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162.9 | | PAUPER::GETTYS | Bob Gettys N1BRM | Sun Jul 27 1986 21:07 | 30 |
| I'm not sure what order to put my priorities in, having
just recieved a dose of all three, but one thing I AM sure of,
they all felt good!!!
One other thing I'm also quite sure of. It takes a GOOD
(in quality, not just a "good guy") manager to make ANY of
them happen!! (I've been on both sides, unjustly screwed by a
poor manager [who will remain forever nameless], and justly
rewarded by a good one.)
As I have thought about it while writing this (it has
taken longer than the few lines would seem to indicate) I think
I would break it down this way.
For a long term "extra effort" (i.e. being GOOD at what
you do) the salary increase seems appropriate.
For a short term "special effort" (i.e. the solving of a
particularly difficult problem) then the extra recognition and
maybe a small goody would seem appropriate.
For that short term "extra effort" (i.e. those long
"unpaid" hours on a project) then a goody such as a trip would
seem appropriate. (In some companies a one time cash bonus would
fit here.)
It is also obvious that these three conditions are
difficult to establish independently!�
/s/ Bob
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162.10 | | POTARU::QUODLING | Technocrats of the world... Unite! | Mon Jul 28 1986 00:06 | 18 |
| Well, the money never seems to increase by anything significant,
so I wouldn't hold my breath for that.
Decus is work! Every Decus I go to leaves me absolutely drained.
I tend to be the get it done person.
I am in too small a group to have "excellence award" junkets.
A GPX on my desk is a required tool, not an award for acheivement.
(I just need to beat this point into my bosses head a bit more.)
Recognition? Personally, I hate to be patronized and that is
the form that most recognition ends up around here.
Bah! Humbug! Sigh....
q
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162.11 | favorite goodie | DSSDEV::SAUTER | John Sauter | Mon Jul 28 1986 11:03 | 6 |
| re: .7--DECUS in Australia! Like .10 I find DECUS a lot of work,
but the chance to see Australia would make it worth the effort.
Even when DECUS is at home I enjoy it, in spite of the very intense
effort required over a week. (My feet were bleeding after a week
in Los Angeles. I'll never wear new shoes to DECUS again.)
John Sauter
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162.12 | No tax on time (yet), so... | TSG::BRADY | Bob Brady, TSG, LMO4-1/K4, 296-5396 | Fri Jun 05 1987 16:31 | 4 |
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That's an easy one - my reward of choice for extra performance
would be time off - either a one-time bonus for a one-time effort, or
an uptick in vacation accrual rate for more sustained afterburning...
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