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| 82.1 | | BUFALO::JOHNSTON | | Tue Jan 28 1986 22:19 | 7 |
| CSMs are having to shuffle things amongst themselves just to do present work.
For example, I know a CSM that had to take a req for a senior software
engineer and hire an operator... Not too exciting to a CSM who is trying
to get development done!!! I suggest you ask for a complete explaination.
You are entitled to one...
Britt...
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| 82.2 | | ELUDOM::WINALSKI | | Wed Jan 29 1986 23:09 | 17 |
| RE: .0
As I said in response to your previous note, I don't think a manager should
be interviewing for positions that don't formally exist yet (i.e., have a
signed-off req. for them).
RE: internal transfer in general
I think that the first priority of an organization involved in a staffing
reduction is to find positions for those whose jobs are disappearing. Ideally
this can be accomplished within the organization. I think this is what I
see within the CSM situation in .0. Some parts of CSM have had staffing
cutbacks, and the organization as a whole is trying to find a place for them
elsewhere in CSM. I can appreciate their making this effort take priority
over transfers into CSM from another organization.
--PSW
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| 82.4 | sad but true! | PRSIS3::DTL | Paris, France | Thu Feb 20 1986 04:56 | 4 |
| sounds like one of the reasons why Stan is leaving the Company!
more and more papers, less and less trust in what people say.
Didier_who_experienced_(badly)_what_you_just_warned_about
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| 82.5 | A positive note... | BRAT::DAVISG | | Fri Apr 04 1986 09:39 | 25 |
| Ok...I just gotta answer this one. I went through some of the
same stuff. Looked for a new position for 13 months! Called
personnel reps too numerous to mention. Got a few offers in
places I didn't want to move to. Got many offers if I would
pay my own way... but I waited for the 'right' position and
it paid off. With the relocation benefits, i figure I just bumped
my net worth up by at least $10k. I sold my house for pure profit
(no real estate commission, repeat *I* sold the house and home
equity handled the close at MY price.) And I got something my old
manager said was delayed until September 1986. A PROMOTION.
But...during the 13 months, I went through the same events described
in .0,.1...etc. I met more bozo's over the phone than I can count on
all my fingers and toes. Personnel and Management.
Anyway...the moral is *hang in there*, read the jobs book, ASK
YOUR FRIENDS, always 'happen' to have a copy of your resume'
handy, let the right influential folks know that you are
looking, be persistent, and examine EVERY possibility for a new position,
Be aware that some of the people who say they are ready
to hire you, really are sincere. And some aren't.
Gil
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| 82.6 | another 2 cents worth... | CURIE::ARNOLD | | Mon May 12 1986 16:55 | 15 |
| Gotta add 2 cents worth also, mainly because it still bothers me
and it also cost DEC a few big bucks. DEC Geneva (Switzerland)
flew me over there to interview a few months ago. The interview
went well and an offer was made. Wife & I did some spread-
sheeting, finally accepted the offer. Then Geneva called me to
say that they had a hiring freeze, the position no longer existed.
It seems strange to me that a hiring manager wouldn't be aware of
a pending hiring freeze, especially an "immediate" one that would
halt anything currently in the works, as in this case. Yes, "these
things sometimes happen" in a large corporation, but it doesn't
do much to lessen the personal frustration level after investing
significant personal time & energy into a potential major move.
Jon
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| 82.7 | Managers are not prescient | HUMAN::CONKLIN | Peter Conklin | Tue May 13 1986 02:13 | 12 |
| > It seems strange to me that a hiring manager wouldn't be aware of
> a pending hiring freeze, especially an "immediate" one that would
> halt anything currently in the works, as in this case.
Usually freezes are applied immediately. So, rarely is there any
foreknowledge. If there were clear foreknowledge it would be in
the form of cancelling the req or budget, so would not really be
a freeze. On the other hand, frequently such freezes are applied
"honoring outstanding offers". On the other hand, if the reason
were limits on next year's budget, then the slot might be frozen
despite outstanding offers.
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| 82.8 | 3 more cents worth | WILVAX::CHANDLER | Christopher Chandler | Fri May 23 1986 04:07 | 10 |
|
Thanks .4, .5, .6 !!!
I am about to jump off the roof myself while trying to move
into a new career here at DEC. I also couldn't count how many times
I've been )( <- this close but no cigar.....
Keep trying is the message so back to the Jobs Book I go! :-)
Chris
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