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Conference heron::euro_swas_ai

Title:Europe-Swas-Artificial-Intelligence
Moderator:HERON::BUCHANAN
Created:Fri Jun 03 1988
Last Modified:Thu Aug 04 1994
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:442
Total number of notes:1429

358.0. "FastTag / Avalanche?" by MALLET::POGSON (My other hull's a Dart) Wed Aug 14 1991 18:54

    We have a customer (Reuterfile) looking for s/w to parse incoming text
    using rules to classify text chunks, probably tagging so they can be put
    in a database.

    Have we done anything along these lines? (I'm aware of the Sumitomo telex
    reader.)

    Ideally need something high-level: I'm sure OPS-5 could be used.

    Reuters have heard of a product called "FastTag" (sp?) from Avalanche
    that seems to do this. Anyone come across this one?  Is this a
    European/UK or US company?  Sounds a bit Swiss/French/Italian/Himalayan
    to me....

    Thanks,
    		Bryan
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358.1VAX ScanYIPPEE::ROACHTANSTAAFL !Fri Aug 16 1991 12:2911
Bryan,

VAX Scan seems like a perfect fit for this project. It is very OPS-like in as 
much as it facilitates the use of rules to identify "chunks" of text. Once
it has identified a chunk, you can then refer to that chunk as a symbol and
manipulate it in a procedural type language. It is designed specifically
for parsing text. Nice stuff. I used it once for reading ascii files containing
financial data received from Dunn and Bradstreet. It read the file, found all
of the financial info and then stored it into Rdb. Very straight forward to use.

Cheers
358.2Something in France..., and some commercial products....CHEVIE::FITZGIBBONJoe Fitzgibbon, Valbonne EICTue Aug 20 1991 14:5620
Bryan,
Try speaking with Stephane Ripoll at Evry, he had a project (or maybe it was 
Henri Mercier) which did something similar for a French bank. (Rameses??)

Cognitive Systems (US 203 773-0726) have a tool called CBR/TEXT (Trade Mark!)
whihc can be used for building Text Processing applications. Makes use of
pattern ,matching, Decision Tree and Cased Based Reasoning.

Cognitive Systems have also three applications -

	ACLASS Automatic Message Classification software for banks.
	ATRANS Payment Reader, translates freeely formatted messages into 
	                                              SWIFT standard format.
	SWIFTFIX Correct format/content errors on SWIFT payments.
	LOCUS, Letter of credit reader.

I can put more details on Cognitive Systesm in intenral mail, or FAX them - as you wish.

Cheers, Joe.
	
358.3RAMSES detailsEVOAI1::RIPOLLStephane RIPOLL, EIS ParisFri Aug 23 1991 09:4635
    RAMSES is an open application originally designed for the French 
    "Cr�dit Agricole", in order to automatically route international 
    banking SWIFT. It has been developped by a small software house 
    ODYSS'IA located in Toulouse.
    
    Routing is based on semantic analysis of message content. RAMSES 
    uses two kinds of knowledge to do that :
      -	knowledge to cope with the "weak-structure" of messages (i.e. 
        resolve inconsistencies, mispellings, abreviations, etc.)
    
      -	knowledge on how to use various pieces of information inside 
        the message - towns, locations, banking agencies, specific 
        banking behaviours (coding of messages, rounding of 
        amounts...), etc. - and how to correlate them to do the 
        routing.
    
    The Cr�dit Agricole application runs on a microvax II integrated 
    with a Tandem (as a front-end to the SWIFT network). It 
    automatically routes about 95% of the incoming messages (remaining 
    messages are manually routed).
    
    Written in VAX OPS5, RAMSES allows to specify "user rules" in 
    order to capture specific routing expertise, via a customized user 
    interface. This allows the system to be reused in very different 
    situations : for instance, RAMSES has later been customized in 
    order to route air-traffic messages for A.D.P. (Paris Airport 
    Consortium). 
    
    ODYSS'IA sells RAMSES as an "open application" with customization 
    services.
    
    Don't hesitate to join me for more information at DTN 858-6639, or 
    directly call ODYSS'IA (Jean-Paul Patacq, 33-61-30-06-09).
    
    -- St�phane --
358.4Further ThoughtsFASDER::MTURNERMark Turner * DTN 425-3702 * MEL4Mon Sep 02 1991 23:3313
    re: .2 - 	Is Cognitive Systems still active in this area?  The last
    		time I talked with them, they had shifted their emphasis
    		to case-based reasoning technology.  Also, their products
    		are/were *very* expensive.  Does your customer have deep
    		pockets?
    
    re: .1 - 	I agree that VAX SCAN is a good place to start.  If it
    		doesn't do the whole job, it's likely to be able to handle
    		a great deal of the front end.  The Sumitomo Bank system
    		uses VAX SCAN for the first phase of message processing.
    
    
    							Mark
358.5Bits and piecesCHEVIE::FITZGIBBONJoe Fitzgibbon, Valbonne EICTue Sep 03 1991 11:1612
 >>   re: -1	Is Cognitive Systems still active in this area? 

	On 30 May of this year they were  still advertising and 
	demoing these products, so unless you have heard something new....

2. Another candidate.

	TCS (Text Categorisation Shell) from Carnegie Group is available(?) 
	(phone Linda Reding on DTN 296-5183) and performs categorisation
	of (message) text contents.

Joe.