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Conference heron::euro_swas_ai

Title:Europe-Swas-Artificial-Intelligence
Moderator:HERON::BUCHANAN
Created:Fri Jun 03 1988
Last Modified:Thu Aug 04 1994
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:442
Total number of notes:1429

252.0. "Nexpert update - THANKS DIRK!" by HERON::ROACH (TANSTAAFL !) Mon Nov 19 1990 11:42

Printed by: Pat Roach                                    Document Number: 013912
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                                        Date:     19-Nov-1990 02:16am CET
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Subject: Nexpert update

From:	AIADM::MIDEVL::GYPSC::BADE "16-Nov-1990 1135" 16-NOV-1990 12:07:15.50
To:	AITG::PAPAGEORGE
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Subj:	nexpert V2.0/Lucid update -FYI

From:	GYPSC::BADE         16-NOV-1990 15:40:22.25
To:	WEREOK::REDING
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Subj:	nexpert V2.0 documentation seen

Linda,

we just received a package of nexpert object V2.0 documentation
for the nexpert user's meeting:

- introduction manual    (roughly 110 pages)
- user's guide           (        275      )
- reference manual       (        283      )
- programmer's reference (        365      )
- functional description (        157      )


From the first view it looks like acceptable quality. Did you see that
documentation before, or does this mean that the noship-situation is now 
at end ?

For Lucid Lisp V4.0, are there dates defined when we'll deliver it
certified with ULTRIX V4.0 ? The situation is particularly pressing
here, because HP is already shipping Lucid Lisp V4.0.


Regards
Dirk
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252.1European Nexpert Users Meeting ReportGYPSC::BADEThu Dec 06 1990 19:2590
Dear Collegues,

this is my report on the European NEXPERT OBJECT Users Meeting held in Munich 
on November 26th to 28th 1990. I had a chance to install NEXPERT V2.0 on a 
DECstation 3100 and work with it for a day. I have used it to play a little
with the new EXECUTE-routines that allow to handle attributes with multiple 
values. This is a long awaited new feature that brings NEXPERT closer to 
LISP-based object oriented tools.

Regards
Dirk

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FLAGS: The VAX-user group (VAX means VAX plus RISC here) mainly complained
       about the slow delivery of NEXPERT V2.0 from Digital. After explaining
       this fact as a matter of precaution, documentation and support readiness,
       we were asked to explain (i) why Digital prepares another windowing 
       system (Motif) and (ii) why there are no tools to export CDA-graphics 
       to PCs. While concern (i) could be easily refused (NEXPERT should run
       on MOTIF without modification, because it doesn't use the DECwindows
       Toolkit), (ii) is easy to explain but harder to accept for customers:
       they want to develop a complete user interface on workstations and
       then use it on PCs without modification. We have to offer them 
       terminal modus in this case, as long as DECwindows on PCs is still
       unknown and/or not accepted. 

TRENDS:
       The exposition in the lobby of the hotel was dominated by 
       PC-(Compaq-)based applications. From the workstation community only 
       a VAXstation and our DECstation were visible. HP, Sun, IBM missing.
       We should capitalize on the availability of NEXPERT on all the 
       various platforms and propagate workstations as development 
       machines (just mention, how the low resolution 12'' or 14'' screens 
       spoil the rich development interface). Neuron Data seems to be very 
       interested to position NEXPERT not as a PC-tool but fully flexible 
       workstation tool. Repeatedly, Digital's telephone support for 
       NEXPERT in the U.S. was given as a good example for other partners.

HIGHLIGHTS:

       American Airlines showed a MACintosh based Airline Flight
       Scheduling system. A closer look showed that the actual NEXPERT
       based part was less than 100 rules enhanced with several thousand
       lines of conventional code. Nevertheless, NEXPERT is considered
       a central part of the system and cannot be omitted.

ACHIEVEMENTS:

       roughly 200-300 attendees (althoug participation was expensive), 
       about 10% participants VAX/DEC based        

       lengthy discussions on NEXPERT OBJECT V2.0 features:
       - upwards compatible from V1.1
       - new release strategy, coming closer to Digital's needs
       - AGENDA-monitor included, with aid to modify the agenda
       - multivalued attributes with EXECUTE-functions for manipulation
       - more list operations included as ready-to-use EXECUTE-functions
       - complete EXECUTE library accessible from special editor
         windows: no explict C-programming necessary !
       - UNIFY-operator for match-operations between two lists 
         (This was formerly impossible)
       - encryption of knowledge bases (separate option, interesting vor 
         vendors of ready-to-use applications based on NEXPERT)
       - SQL-based database bridge to ORACLE, SYBASE, INGRES (and later
         INFORMIX) available as separate option
       - but RDB-access still in standard distribution  
       - NEXPERT FORMS (for character based end-user interfaces) will be
         included with V2.0 for VAX/DECstations, too.

FUTURE:
       Neuron Data looks forward for tighter cooperation with Digital.
       However, if we don't come up with more license sales, we risc
       to loose this entry level tool to the PC-world.

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