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Conference heron::euro_swas_ai

Title:Europe-Swas-Artificial-Intelligence
Moderator:HERON::BUCHANAN
Created:Fri Jun 03 1988
Last Modified:Thu Aug 04 1994
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:442
Total number of notes:1429

213.0. "Third party EXCALIBUR" by YIPPEE::MCGREGOR () Mon Jul 23 1990 12:27

    Please note the following, from the SCAACT::EXCALIBUR notes file.
    
    This is the intelligent information retrieval software which uses
    a neural-net based learning mechanism. 
    
    
    george
    
    
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    THIS MAY SHOCK SOME, BUT WE ARE CLOSE TO HAVING THE CAPABILITY TO 
    DISTRIBUTE THE EXCALIBUR SOFTWARE.  THERE IS ONE SMALL BUG BEING
    WORKED OUT BUT, IF YOU DO THE FOLLOWING YOU WILL BE ABLE TO 
    GET COPIES OF THE SOFTWARE.
    
           RUN ABACUS"EXCALIBUR"::[EXCALIBUR]MASTERCOPY
    
    JUST FOLLOW THE INSTRUCTIONS FROM THERE.
    
    IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS, CALL ME AT DTN 297-6623.  DO NOT CALL
    THE SYSTEMS PEOPLE FOR ABACUS.
    
    AGAIN, DIRECT ALL QUESTIONS TO ME, AL GOLDSWORTHY.
    
    
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213.1Excalibur QuestionsYIPPEE::MCGREGORTue Jul 24 1990 10:4470
    
Bill is in Ed Killeens Machine Learning New Ventures Group:
     
    
From:	BUFFER::LEARN2::MUTH         "Bill Muth OGO1-2/W11 U11 276-8710" 20-JUL-1990 21:03:18.15
To:	BUFFER::YIPPEE::MCGREGOR
CC:	MUTH
Subj:	RE: Base level EXCALIBUR technology

   George,

   Regarding your questions:

>1. (I think I asked you this, if so sorry!) Does or will EXCALABUR make
>available their base-level NN technology, or is the basic RTL specific to
>text storage and retrieval? 

   We do not have access to Excalibur's base-level neural network
   technology, only the TRS RTL.  The RTL currently available is designed
   for text only. 

>2. DO or will EXCALABUR have equivalent callable products in the other 
>"application areas" you mentioned eg signal processing, and vision? 
>In the same form e.g. a RTL?

   Excailbur was working on three different run-time libraries last year,
   the Signal Recognition System (SRS), Text Retrieval System (TRS) and
   Vision Recognition System (VRS).  As of last November, they had stopped
   work altogether on SRS and VRS to concentrate on TRS and TRS-based
   applications like PixTex.  I don't think SRS or VRS will be available in
   the forseeable future.
   
>3. What NN product (third-party or internal) do we (you) recommend to customers
>who want to buy a product?

   No one has asked us for software recommendation!  We primarily use our
   own tools for neural net work, or transfer technology we've funded
   (MCC). As a service group, when asked how to solve a problem, we
   recommend our services. 

>Are there Digital products in the pipeline? 

   There are no neural net programs that I know of.  Our group was working
   with a piece of harware called PAM, a Parallel Associative Memory, which
   had similiar functionality to neural networks.  This project has been
   put on hold, partly due to lack of funding and partly due to advances in
   traditional computer hardware (i.e. RISC workstations).

>Can we get the NN stuff from MCC which you are using?   

   The software that MCC used was based on software distributed with the
   book "Parallel Distributed Computing" (PDP) by McClelland and Rumelhart
   (MIT Press). This book came with floppy disks containing several
   programs (C source code plus binary code for the IBM PC) for training
   and recognition using neural nets.  The directory
   LEARN1::SYS$PUBLIC:[MISC] contains the following PDP code (for DIGITAL
   internal use only): 

	PDP.ARC - Executable version for IBM PC (PC ARC format)
	PDP.SAV - Contents of PDP.ARC, plus C source code and VMS
		  executable code (VMS save set)

   There is further discussion of PAM and the PDP software in the NOTES
   conference TURRIS::NEURAL_NETS (contact Ruby BUFFER::Li for membership).
   If you would like the exact code that MCC used, contact Ed Killeen.

   Hope this helps.

   Bill