Conference heron::euro_swas_ai

100.0. "Here we go again!!!" by MINNY::MANSER (They call me _tinker_) Wed Apr 19 1989 09:59

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AITG::INSINGA "Aron K. Insinga"                       5 lines  14-APR-1989 09:31
                -< We have to live up to our contract with GE >-
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Since field test is over and the product is available from SDC, no field test
kits or PAKs are available.  Please contact Marcia Roland for information on
how to order it through SDC and to see if you qualify for a free license --
if you have to pay for it, remember that, you only have to pay about 1/7 of
what our customers are expected to pay for it!

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MINNY::MANSER "They call me _tinker_"                 8 lines  17-APR-1989 02:58
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    I always thought that VAX Decision Expert is a DEC product (compared
    to Nexpert Object which is just a DDS product). 
    So does DEC have to pay royalties, is it not really our product?
    Are there plans to supply free licenses to European countries?
    I want to sell this product without having to pay for my own license,
    as it is with the rest of our products.
    
    Tom (SWAS Z�rich, Switzerland)

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PRSUD1::MERCIER "Henri Mercier,SWAS Paris"           10 lines  17-APR-1989 11:37
                     -< DIGITAL or not DIGITAL Product ? >-
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    Yes, it's named VAX Decision Expert.
    So what have we to deal (at the country level) with
    licences arrangments.
    If we want to sell VAX Decision Expert we need an
    unrestricted access to the product, in order to be able
    to at least demonstrate it !
    
    Waiting for good news.
    
    - Henri -

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AITG::HUBERMAN                                        4 lines  18-APR-1989 09:17
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    You must order the product through the SDC.  The internal license cost
    is low.
    
    
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ATLS17::HENNESSY_J "John Hennessy, DTN 351-2476, RHQ" 7 lines  18-APR-1989 12:46
                -< And you thought Nexpert gave you headaches! >-
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Let's see, two weeks for the internal approvals, one week in the mail, another
to be processed, six weeks to get it out of SDC.  That kills Q4.  Nobody sets
up demos in July, August everybody has new accounts, ...  Should there be a
Corporate memo stating the Decision Expert isn't ready for viewing until
Q2FY90 or should we handle it on a local level?  Perhaps we should just
hold off for version 2?  (Oops, will there be any internal "test" kits for
the V2 product?)  Who in God's name negotiates these contracts?
    

    This is your good old AI marketing friend trying again to put out
    fires ignited at Corporate level.
    
    It is true that, for some reasons, we in Europe were not told by
    anyone about this royalty situation with VAX Decision Expert. So,
    once again, we are on a reactive mode!
    
    After talking to Marcia Roland, I found out that:
    
    	1. the current contract with G.E. stipulates only 100 free internal
    copies. The extra ones have to be purchased through "regular channels"
    (i.e. SDC) at "the low cost" of $ 750 (this is how much royalty
    we pay G.E.). Digital is trying to re-negociate that contract to
    add more free copies, but nothing confirmed yet.
    
    	2. One had to ask for a free copy! So I did! I sent a request
    for 28 copies for Europe with 28 names of people responsible for
    the copies. Thomas and Henri are obviously in this list. I will
    send a mail to all the people I quickly identify (I had to give
    this list within a few hours!) to let them know. I tried to have
    at least one copy per country (more in larger countries) and to
    go to ACT's first.
    
    This is only a quick fix, though. Hopefully the situation can only
    improve, right!!!
    
    Pascal

    Many thanks to Pascal who once more had to rescue the situation
    for Europe. 
    Now let's go to the details: 
    o  When will the PAK's be available?
    o  When will the SDC be ready to distribute the Software and Docu?
    
    Tom 

    For those of you who copied the official kit over the net, but could
    not find the documentation, it is sitting on:
    
    	PROLOGW$:[staples.public]*.ps
    
    in a postscript format.

    I forgot to mention the node name: AITG, so the full address is:
    
    AITG::PROLOGW$:[STAPLES.PUBLIC]*.PS
    
    Pascal