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| 166.1 | Here's a few, for starters. | KERNEL::ADAMS | Brian Adams CSC-Viables '833-3026 | Thu Feb 10 1994 09:11 | 36 |
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I totally agree. Let's do something, rather than just talk about it.
Here's my list;
PDP11 Anything from 11-03 to 11-94. Especially software
calls. Anybody know RSX or RSTS well enough to
analyse a crash ??
Terminals Mainly calls logged via AES. See PCs
PC calls Logged via AES to DSN%Hardware... Why dump them on
the systems group. Let's have a dedicated mail
address so the calls go to the right place.
Printers Why Systems ?? I know it's usually OOH but there is
almost always someone getting paid STANDBY from
the systems group. Also we have to have to handle
OOH, printers that the printer group won't touch
during the day, ie third party or old DEC ones.
Monitors We have no skills on the VRxxx range. OK we could
go and get the books, but its nearly always an
engineer with a tech assist, and we could and do
often waste a lot of time for little results.
VXT2000 Probably better handled by the graphics group, if
we could persuade them.
That's a few to be going on with.. I'll add more as & when I think
of them.
Brian.
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| 166.2 | where have I heard this before? | KERNEL::BLAND | Norman Bland 833 3797 CSC, Basingstoke | Thu Feb 10 1994 09:56 | 10 |
| Reply to Brian Anthony.
Brian, You know that I already have made assertive remarks that I will
drive this within the CIG (as no doubt others will). I was also drawing
up a list (that any group member could add to). I am also keen on it
happening tomorrow and not next year (or the year after etc). As I
mentioned this to you only two days ago, I don't understand why you are
also trying to drive exactly the same issue.
Norman Bland
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| 166.3 | | KERNEL::ANTHONY | | Thu Feb 10 1994 22:42 | 32 |
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re: -1 -< where have I heard this before? >-
I don't know...
I am sorry if I offended you by jumping the gun.
I read your inputs to 165, and they both refer to your remit
"workplace", so there was nothing to jog my memory that you would
be addressing this issue.
Going back to the topic:
Do we think we can come up with a reasonable (accurate) list of dross
without measuring? (or at least by using our previous CIG stats).
My only concern is, any resructuring proposals we come up
with will involve defining this work.
Measuring will take time.
Does CIG measuring mean stats gathering, or is it also valid to get
data from other areas?
Another point.. should we have two lists, one for office hours, and
the second for out-of-hours. It seems reasonable to support some
products out-of-hours only.. others perhaps not at all.
eg office hours out-of-hour (and weekends)
no PDP some PDP
no monitors/terminals some monitors/NO terminals
etc
Brian.
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| 166.4 | more dross | KERNEL::AYLING | | Fri Feb 11 1994 14:58 | 14 |
| I shall enter this as my idea asto some of "the dross" we should get rid under
the heading of this topic "CIG: Let's define the dross" regardless of who will
drive this.
I agree that we need to DO it , and not keep talking about it.
my list also includes : PDP11's
Terminals
PC's
VR Monitors
VXT2000's
but would in addition : MD300 scanners (or any other models).
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| 166.5 | For PDP-11, look here. | KERNEL::ADAMS | Brian Adams CSC-Viables '833-3026 | Mon Feb 14 1994 11:46 | 3 |
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SEE 6.13 FOR INFO ON NON-SERVICE REQUESTS FOR PDP-11 SYSTEMS.
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