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Conference kernel::csguk_systems

Title:CSGUK_SYSTEMS
Notice:No restrictions on keyword creation
Moderator:KERNEL::ADAMS
Created:Wed Mar 01 1989
Last Modified:Thu Nov 28 1996
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:242
Total number of notes:1855

19.0. "Shift work and leave?" by KERNEL::PLANK () Wed Mar 22 1989 11:31

    Hi Chaps,
    
    If you are a shift worker being paid an uplift on your salary for
    the trouble etc etc, can you be forced to swap your weekend/evenings
    with somebody else on the rota if it happens to be during a week
    that you take leave?
    
    Steve
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19.1clarificationKERNEL::SCOTTThere's no future in euthanasiaWed Mar 22 1989 12:059
    Don't fully understand the question. When you say "take leave"
    at the end of the question, do you mean "apply for leave"?.
    If you apply for leave when you're due to work weekends/evenings
    and minimum manning has already been reached then finding a swap
    may be the only way to get the time off. I wouldn't think you
    could be forced to swap but it may be the only way that a request
    for leave and the needs of the business can both be satisfied.
                                                                     
    Roland
19.2yes apply and takeKERNEL::PLANKWed Mar 22 1989 12:149
    I suppose that's a point. Your leave application could always be
    refused.
    
    Suppose I booked my Winter Holiday now but I should be working evenings
    when I want the leave. With 9 months notice the leave couldn't really
    be refused. Could I be forced to swap my week of evenings so that
    I don't take leave during my evening shift.
    
    Steve
19.3A bit of give and take.KERNEL::ADAMSVenus on Remote ControlThu Mar 23 1989 09:3018
    
    Steve,
    
    Various "rules" apply here. Not so much Policy & Procedures stuff,
    but mostly common sense and a mature attitude to the situation.
    
    Booking leave nine months in advance, should give you and or your
    shift co-ordinator time to find a replacement by some means (either
    a swap or overtime).However, can you be sure that your shift will
    not change in the meantime ???
    
    Generally, one should consider the shift commitment, when applying
    for holidays etc. Also one should be aware of manning levels and
    avoid weeks when "minimum manning" is already reached, except in
    really exceptional circumstances. There might be times, when taking
    leave, when scheduled for days, might have just as serious an impact
    on the operation.
    
19.4I PRAY ONE DAY WE WILL ALL BE TREATED AS EQUALSKERNEL::GARNETTWed Mar 29 1989 08:585
     
    COME ON LADS....SHIFT WORKERS DONT HAVE ANY ENTITLEMENT TO "HUMAN
    RIGHTS"....BECAUSE WE ARE PAID "SHIFT PREMIUMS" (WE DONT ACTUALLY
    EARN THEM)...."WEE JOBBIE" EXPLAINED ALL THAT TO US..REMEMBER !!!