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Conference bulova::decwindows_old

Title:DECwindows Standard Programming Environment
Notice:For reference only. New conference is BULOVA::DECWINDOWS
Moderator:LESLIE::LESLIE
Created:Mon Jan 19 1987
Last Modified:Thu Feb 16 1989
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1770
Total number of notes:11118

23.0. "ASTs in X?" by SKYLRK::MARCOTTE (George Marcotte SWS Santa Clara) Thu Jan 29 1987 12:39

T.RTitleUserPersonal
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23.1It has not been forgottenVMSDEV::FISHERBurns Fisher 381-1466, ZKO1-1/D42Thu Jan 29 1987 13:526
23.2Use lightweight threadsORAN::ORANDave OranThu Jan 29 1987 14:5817
23.3not today, but sometime....RDVAX::GETTYSThu Jan 29 1987 15:504
23.4offerSTAR::VANNOYJakeThu Jan 29 1987 18:195
23.5You can sleep without having ASTs!ANKER::ANKERAnker Berg-SonneFri Jan 30 1987 15:549
23.6What? No Select() in VMS?STAR::BRANDENBERGbleakness...desolation...plastic forksFri Jan 30 1987 16:4912
23.7window manager isn't pickyCOLORS::HARDYFri Jan 30 1987 17:2012
23.8Yes, ASTs!CLT::BUTENHOFApproachable SystemsSun Feb 01 1987 17:0224
23.9No "poleing"DVINCI::ROSESun Feb 01 1987 18:3513
23.10AST style programming should be discouraged....RDVAX::GETTYSSun Feb 01 1987 19:1110
23.11sometimes, transportability isn't all-importantCLT::BUTENHOFApproachable SystemsMon Feb 02 1987 09:1032
23.12you need "sequence breaks"VIKING::FLEISCHERBob FleischerMon Feb 02 1987 09:4216
23.13If portability is your goal, use EXTREME care.RDVAX::GETTYSMon Feb 02 1987 14:1212
23.14Not all software is bored while waiting for I/ODSSDEV::BIBEAULTMike BibeaultTue Feb 03 1987 09:057
23.15SorryDVINCI::ROSETue Feb 03 1987 09:2014
23.16There's always a better way than ASTsORAN::ORANDave OranTue Feb 03 1987 09:4816
23.17Calling XLIB from AST levelSTAR::BMATTHEWSTue Feb 03 1987 12:2445
23.18PSW::WINALSKIPaul S. WinalskiTue Feb 03 1987 13:027
23.19250-300us almosts doubles the call overheadSTAR::BMATTHEWSTue Feb 03 1987 14:469
23.20ADA tasks and XLIB?STAR::BMATTHEWSTue Feb 03 1987 14:503
23.21200 microseconds is a long time....RDVAX::GETTYSTue Feb 03 1987 21:594
23.22One way aroundMAGIC::DICKSONWYSIWYG is a crockWed Feb 04 1987 10:139
23.23Can't stall AST thread and allow non-AST executionSTAR::BMATTHEWSWed Feb 04 1987 12:334
23.24PSW::WINALSKIPaul S. WinalskiWed Feb 04 1987 13:325
23.25Double your buffers, double your fun with...ERLANG::WILKINSONWed Feb 04 1987 13:5910
23.26More than double. Infinite!STAR::BMATTHEWSWed Feb 04 1987 14:468
23.27Some more detail on AST'sSTAR::BRANDENBERGbleakness...desolation...plastic forksWed Feb 04 1987 14:5231
23.28Push it back to the server?ERLANG::WILKINSONWed Feb 04 1987 17:3119
23.29Connections are relatively expensive to establish.RDVAX::GETTYSWed Feb 04 1987 19:416
23.30Jim's idea explainedVMSDEV::FISHERBurns Fisher 381-1466, ZKO1-1/D42Wed Feb 04 1987 23:2117
23.31Infinite Buffer VAX OptionSTAR::BRANDENBERGbleakness...desolation...plastic forksWed Feb 04 1987 23:317
23.32Not so, you misunderstood the slimey nature of the hack.RDVAX::GETTYSThu Feb 05 1987 01:035
23.33Stack Disposal & Multi-Tasking within a ProcessERLANG::WILKINSONThu Feb 05 1987 02:2017
23.34ASTs are not ADA tasksCASEE::COWANKen CowanThu Feb 05 1987 08:5220
23.35VIDEO::LEICHTERJJerry LeichterThu Feb 05 1987 09:0851
23.36Protocol change brings hope to solving this problemSTAR::BMATTHEWSThu Feb 05 1987 10:4825
23.37Limited maximum request sizeZIN::MCGREGORScott McGregorThu Feb 05 1987 12:319
23.38PSW::WINALSKIPaul S. WinalskiThu Feb 05 1987 13:1314
23.39PSW::WINALSKIPaul S. WinalskiThu Feb 05 1987 13:188
23.40One company. Two operating systemsRHEA::KARLTONPhil Karlton, Western Software LabFri Feb 06 1987 07:1311
23.41one out of three IS badVIKING::FLEISCHERBob FleischerFri Feb 06 1987 14:2212
23.42Don't encourage OS dependencies but ALLOW them!STAR::BMATTHEWSFri Feb 06 1987 14:298
23.43SARAH::P_DAVISPeter Davis, X-NYerFri Feb 06 1987 14:3510
23.44additional measures will be needed for portabilityVIKING::FLEISCHERBob FleischerFri Feb 06 1987 16:3815
23.45Portability won't happend by itselfCASEE::COWANKen CowanMon Feb 09 1987 05:5527
23.46why does it bother you?VIKING::FLEISCHERBob FleischerMon Feb 09 1987 10:0428
23.47Colour me "riled" too.NANDI::WYMANBob Wyman, CASEE::WYMANTue Feb 10 1987 08:1823
23.48delivery of product vs. portability of codeVIKING::FLEISCHERBob FleischerTue Feb 10 1987 10:1533
23.49A question of tradeoffsCASEE::COWANKen CowanWed Feb 11 1987 04:2210
23.50Yes -- there's no free lunchVIKING::FLEISCHERBob FleischerWed Feb 11 1987 09:1413
23.51Have you looked at how RMS deals with this problem ?BRIGIT::PETTENGILLmulpSun Feb 15 1987 15:4013
23.52PSW::WINALSKIPaul S. WinalskiSun Feb 15 1987 16:579
23.53STAR::JJOHNSONJim Johnson, VMS DevelopmentSun Feb 15 1987 23:488
23.54Getting ASTs and calling X during them are different!PBSVAX::MOSSDECWINDOWSWed Jul 01 1987 14:0133
23.55Can doSKYLAB::FISHERBurns Fisher 381-1466, ZKO1-1/D42Thu Jul 02 1987 13:445
23.56MILT::JACKSONBill Jackson DOESN'T take American ExpressThu Jul 02 1987 14:3518
23.57PSW::WINALSKIPaul S. WinalskiThu Jul 02 1987 14:4219
23.58JHEREG::TANNENBAUMTPU DeveloperThu Jul 02 1987 17:435
23.59why bother adding any valueKIRK::KYZIVATPaul KyzivatThu Jul 02 1987 18:285
23.60AITG::VANROGGENFri Jul 03 1987 22:092
23.61Portability is a mythPDVAX::P_DAVISPeter Davis (aka SARAH::P_DAVIS)Mon Jul 06 1987 11:587
23.62Not for most applications....CIRCUS::JGMon Jul 06 1987 17:535
23.63MILT::JACKSONBill Jackson DOESN'T take American ExpressTue Jul 07 1987 09:5923
23.64DSSDEV::MCCARTNEYTue Jul 07 1987 23:1615
23.65What applications have been constructed?DSSDEV::MCCARTNEYTue Jul 07 1987 23:3327
23.66QUARK::LIONELWe all live in a yellow subroutineTue Jul 07 1987 23:343
23.67See also discussion at note 68.*DSSDEV::MCCARTNEYWed Jul 08 1987 00:300
23.68Two applicationsDVINCI::ROSEWed Jul 08 1987 10:506
23.6925776::JACKSONBill Jackson DOESN'T take American ExpressFri Jul 10 1987 08:4618
23.70DSSDEV::MCCARTNEYMon Jul 13 1987 18:1235
23.71MILT::JACKSONBill Jackson DOESN'T take American ExpressTue Jul 14 1987 08:4515