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Title:DECmcc user notes file. Does not replace IPMT.
Notice:Use IPMT for problems. Newsletter location in note 6187
Moderator:TAEC::BEROUD
Created:Mon Aug 21 1989
Last Modified:Wed Jun 04 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:6497
Total number of notes:27359

6235.0. "DECmcc V1.4 Release Announcements" by AZUR::LANGENSTEIN (Hubert Langensteiner, @VBE) Fri Feb 10 1995 12:20

         NEW RELEASES OF THE DECMCC NETWORK MANAGEMENT PRODUCTS

Contacts:                                                                   
Corporate: Susan Pomerleau, DTN 828-6110, [33] 92956110, VBE
	   Hubert Langensteiner, DTN 828-5748, [33] 92955748, VBE

HIGHLIGHTS

o  Basic and enterprise-wide network management solution based on Digital's  
   Enterprise Management Architecture, a proven superior architechture

o  Addresses medium to large/corporate data and data/voice networks

o  Includes software fixes and code optimization with extensive regression 
   testing 

o  Supports ULTRIX V4.4 on RISC, and OpenVMS V6.0 and V6.1 on VAX systems 

PRODUCT DESCRIPTION

The new versions of the DECmcc network management products -- V1.4 for all 
products but the DECmcc Network Manager 400, which is now available in V2.4 
-- have been made even more reliable and higher quality than previous 
versions to satisfy the needs of the most demanding network managers. 

The DECmcc Framework, network management packages, and associated options -- 
all members of the POLYCENTER family of products -- offer network management 
for multivendor computing environments.  Network management addresses 
network availability and minimizes the impact of network downtime on user 
productivity and organizational performance.  

DECmcc functionality includes an extensive alarm and notification capability 
used worldwide by a variety of large, global corporations in multiple 
industries. The DECmcc products have been field tested in some of the most 
demanding environments (managing stock exchange, defense, banking and  
telecommunications networks) and have proven to meet the stringent 
requirements of users whose networks are their core business and require 
critical network management capabilities. 

The DECmcc products span wide domains based on published application 
interfaces defined by Digital's Enterprise Management Architecture (EMA). 
They can be extended to include any manageable entity that can be reached 
via the network. 

The new versions run on OpenVMS/VAX V5.5-2 through V6.1 operating systems 
and require any valid VAX, MicroVAX, VAXstation, or VAXserver configuration 
for implementation as specified in the SPD associated with each product. 
They also run on ULTRIX/RISC V4.3A through V4.4 and require a DECstation or 
server.  

The following DECmcc network management solutions are comprised of 
presentation, functional, and access modules. Unless otherwise noted, all 
products that follow are available on both ULTRIX/RISC and OpenVMS/VAX 
platforms. 

DECmcc                PRESENTATION    ACCESS          FUNCTIONAL
PACKAGE	              MODULES         MODULES         MODULES

Framework	      Forms, Command  TCP/IP, SNMP,   Control
		      Language,       DECnet Phase    Registration
		      Iconic Map      IV, DECNET OSI, Domains
		      		      802.3/Ethernet
		      		      Circuit

Network Manager 200   Same as above   Same as above   Same as above 
(1) 		      plus	      plus Data	      plus Network
		      Notification    Collector	      Topology,  
		      		      		      Notification,
		      		      		      Historian/Exporter,
		      		      		      Network Statistics

Network Manager 400   Same as 200     Same as 200     Same as 200 plus
- On OpenVMS/VAX      		      plus Enhanced   Fault Diagnostic (3)
  only (2)	      		      Bridge 	      
		      		      Concentrator,
		      		      FDDI,	      
		      		      Terminal Server

(1) Network Manager 200 was formerly known as Basic Management System (BMS).

(2) Network Manager 400 was formerly known as Enterprise Management System 
    (EMS). 

(3) Bridge and FDDI are included with no additional Extended LAN Manager     
    requirements.


Options for the DECmcc Framework:

Option                            Module 

Network Topology  		  Functional module for TCP/IP and DECnet IV 
                                  network topology  

Fault Diagonostic		  Functional module for TCP/IP diagnostic 
                                  assistant

Historian/Exporter		  Functional module for historian, exporter 

Network Statistics		  Functional module for providing DECnet 
                                  Bridge (1) and TCP/IP statistics in 
                                  predefined reports

Notification			  Functional module for alarm notification; 
                                  presentation module; and access module for 
                                  data collection 

Extended LAN Manager (ELM)	  Functional module for FDDI LAN management; 
                                  and access module for enhanced FDDI bridge 
                                  concentrator 

Developer's Toolkit		  N/A

Terminal Server Access		  Access module  
  Module (TSAM)

(1) DECnet Bridge was formerly known as the Bridge Performance Analyzer     
    (PA).

BENEFITS

The DECmcc Network Manager product suite allows customers to manage 
thousands of data and/or voice networks with unique features. One particular 
telecommunications operator is managing over 15,000 network elements and up 
to 100,000 alarms or events per day with DECmcc prducts. 

DECmcc enables the management of LANs better than some other less robust 
solutions on the market because it provides a physical, in addition to 
logical, view of the network; a physical view is essential in managing 
multivendor networks.  

Also, DECmcc provides a variety of presentation modules including a command 
line interface, which is a unique feature. The product suite also includes a 
development toolkit that enables customization, allowing developers to add 
new access or functional modules.

In addition, Digital's DECmcc network management solutions provide the most 
robust set of products available for performing the following network 
management functions:  

o  Automatic Discovery and Mapping: The ability to have a system on the 
   network automatically query network devices and construct a model of the 
   existing network topology. Auto-topology is critical for maintaining 
   inventories and managing TCP/IP, Ethernet, and DECnet networks and PC 
   LANs, which do not require registration of new systems when these are 
   added to the network.

o  Performance Monitoring: Monitoring network performance for early 
   detection of network or system problems; Regular LAN and WAN performance 
   monitoring can establish threshold performance limits and reduce the 
   magnitude of both short- and long-term bottlenecks.
   
o  Fault Management: Managing the process of detecting and resolving network 
   hardware or software faults.

o  Security Management: Monitoring and protecting networks from unauthorized 
   access.

Therefore, in summary, DECmcc has been successfully deployed in worldwide 
networks for many years under some of the most stringent conditions 
imaginable. It manages telephone networks, stock exchange networks, and many 
other mission critical networks found in the banking, defense, and 
information industries; customers can continue to rely on decmcc as their 
solution of choice.

Migration

In terms of price/performance, DECmcc sells for the same price as other 
network management products but has a much greater network management 
capacity.  ULTRIX/RISC customers can now also benefit from migration to the 
Alpha platform in terms of the better price/performance ratio and openness 
of DEC OSF/1 software.  

DECmcc on ULTRIX/RISC will continued to be maintained for the next two 
years (1995 & 1996). It is recommended that ULTRIX/RISC users consider 
migrating to the Alpha platform. Products based on the same EMA as DECmcc 
are available. The transition can be a smooth one since most of the features 
found in the DECmcc Network Manager 200 are also included in either the 
TeMIP Framework or the POLYCENTER NetView and DECnet Manager products for 
DEC OSF/1 based Alpha systems.  

DECmcc users on the OpenVMS/VAX platform should continue to use DECmcc on 
OpenVMS/VAX; and can migrate to the new versions described under 
"AVAILABILITY AND ORDERING" section of this Sales Update article.  

DECmcc customers should also plan on participating in the DECmcc User Group 
meeting this spring (May 1995), which will clarify current versus future 
opportunities. For more information on migration opportunities, to become a 
member of the DECmcc User Group, or to receive copies of the "DECmcc 
Newsletter," contact Susan Pomerleau, Tel: [33]92956110 / Fax: [33]92956363.

COMPETITIVE ANALYSIS

The main competition for DECmcc Network Manager product set comes from a 
variety of SNMP based network management products that do not provide the 
same breadth of features, scalability, or price/performance as DECmcc 
software. Users should not migrate to solutions that do not match the breath 
and scope of DECmcc products. With the new releases of the product suite, 
users will have the capabilities they have always appreciated in new, 
optimized versions of the code.

AVAILABILITY AND ORDERING

The DECmcc network management portfolio of products will be available 
through Digital. Products that support ULTRIX V4.4 on RISC will be available 
via CONDIST (consolidated distribution service) in mid-February; products 
that support OpenVMS V6.0 and V6.1 on VAX will be available via CONDIST in 
mid-March.

Order No.        Description                                   DIGITAL List

		 V1.4 POLYCENTER (DECMCC) Framework (SPD 32.46) 
		 for OpenVMS/VAX (UPI=VM9) or ULTRIX/RISC (UPI=GU3):

QL-***A*-AA	 License 					    $ 1,250
QL-***A*-RA	 Update License						500

QA-***AA-GZ	 Documentation Kit				        350
QA-VM9AA-H5	 V/V Documentation on TK50				450
QA-GU3AA-H5	 U/R Documentation on TK50				525

QT-***A*-I9	 Installation Service					380
QT-***A*-L9	 Layered Product Support (LPS) Service			480
QT-***A*-E5	 Media and Documentation Distribution Service		360
 		 (MDDS), TK50
QT-***A*-KZ	 Documentation Service					156


		 V1.4 POLYCENTER (DECmcc) Network Manager 200 (BMS, 
                 SPD 32.48) for OpenVMS/VAX (UPI=YSU) or ULTRIX/
                 RISC (UPI=GU5):

QL-***A*-AA	 License					     15,000
QL-***A*-RA	 Update License					      3,600

QA-YSUAA-GZ	 V/V Documentation Kit   				450
QA-GU5AA-GZ	 U/R Documentation Kit					550
QA-***AA-H5	 Documentation on TK50					725

QT-***A*-I9	 Installation Service					380
QT-***A*-L9	 LPS Service					      1,800
QT-***AA-E5	 MDDS, TK50						720
QT-***AA-KZ	 Documentation Service					420

		 V2.4 POLYCENTER (DECmcc) Network Manger 400 
		 (EMS, SPD 31.88) for OpenVMS/VAX (UPI=YFV) ONLY:
                 
QL-YFVA9-AA	 License					     32,500
QL-YFVA9-RA	 Update License					      8,400

QA-YFVAA-GZ	 Documentation Kit				      1,000
QA-YFVAA-H5	 Documentation on TK50				      1,700

QT-YFVA9-I9	 Installation Service					380
QT-YFVA9-L9	 LPS Service					      4,200
QT-YFVAA-E5	 MDDS, TK50						720
QT-YFVAA-KZ	 Documentation Service					540


                 V1.4 POLYCENTER (DECmcc) Developer's Toolkit (SPD 32.49) 
		 for OpenVMS/VAX (UPI=YSW) or ULTRIX/RISC (UPI=GU7):
                 
QL-YSWA9-AA	 License					      9,375
QL-YSWA9-RA	 Update License					      2,160

QA-***AA-GZ	 Documentation Kit					475
QA-YSWAA-H5	 V/V Documentation on TK50			      1,200
QA-GU7AA-H5	 U/R Documentation on TK50			      1,225

QT-***A*-I9	 Installation Service					380
QT-***A*-L9	 LPS Service					      1,080
QT-***AA-E5	 MDDS, TK50						720
QT-***AA-KZ	 Documentation Service					420


		 V1.4 POLYCENTER (DECmcc) Network Topology (SPD 39.71) 
		 for OpenVMS/VAX (UPI=MDJ) or ULTRIX/RISC (UPI=MDK):

QL-MD*A9-AA	 License					      7,500
QL-MD*A9-RA	 Update License					      1,440

QA-MD*AA-GZ	 Documentation Kit					 50
QA-MD*AA-H5	 Documentation on TK50					425

QT-MD*A9-I9	 Installation Service					380
QT-MD*A9-L9	 LPS Service						720
QT-MD*AA-E5	 MDDS, TK50						360
QT-MD*AA-KZ	 Documentation Service					156


                 V1.4 POLYCENTER (DECmcc) Fault Diagnostic (SPD 39.72) 
                 for OpenVMS/VAX (UPI=MDL) or ULTRIX/RISC (UPI=MDM):

QL-MDLA9-AA	 License for OpenVMS/VAX version		      6,250
QL-MDMA8-AA	 License for ULTRIX/RISC version		      6,000
QL-MD*A*-RA	 Update License					      1,800

QA-MD*AA-GZ	 Documentation Kit					 50
QA-MD*AA-H5	 Documentation Kit on TK50				400

QT-MD*A*-I9	 Installation Service					380
QT-MD*A*-L9	 LPS Service						900
QT-MD*AA-E5	 MDDS, TK50						360
QT-MD*AA-KZ	 Documentation Service					156


                 V1.4 POLYCENTER (DECmcc) Historian (SPD 39.73) for 
                 OpenVMS/VAX (UPI=MDN) or ULTRIX/RISC (UPI=MDP):
                 
QL-MD*A*-AA	 License					      3,125
QL-MD*A*-RA	 Update License						600

QA-MD*AA-GZ	 Documentation Kit					 50
QA-MD*AA-H5	 Documentation on TK50					425

QT-MD*A*-I9	 Installation Service					380
QT-MD*A*-L9	 LPS Service						300
QT-MD*AA-E5	 MDDS, TK50						360
QT-MD*AA-KZ	 Documentation Service					156


                 V1.4 POLYCENTER (DECmcc) Network Statistics (SPD 39.74) 
                 for OpenVMS/VAX (UPI=MDQ) or ULTRIX/RISC (UPI=MDR): 

QL-MD*A*-AA	 License					      3,125
QL-MD*A*-RA	 Update License						600

QA-MD*AA-GZ	 Documentation Kit					 75
QA-MD*AA-H5	 Documentation on TK50					425

QT-MD*A*-I9	 Installation Service					380
QT-MD*A*-L9	 LPS Service						300
QT-MD*AA-E5	 MDDS, TK50						360
QT-MD*AA-KZ	 Documentation Service					156


                 V1.4 POLYCENTER (DECmcc) Notification (SPD 39.75) 
                 for OpenVMS/VAX (UPI=MDS) or ULTRIX/RISC (UPI=MDT):

QL-MD*A*-AA	 License					      5,000
QL-MD*A*-RA	 Update License						960

QA-MD*AA-GZ	 Documentation  Kit					 50
QA-MD*AA-H5	 Documentation on TK50					475

QT-MD*A*-I9	 Installation Service					380
QT-MD*A*-L9	 LPS Service						480
QT-MD*AA-E5	 MDDS, TK50						360
QT-MD*AA-KZ	 Documentation Service					156


                 V1.4 POLYCENTER (DECmcc) Extended Lan Manager Access and 
		 Functional Modules (SPD 31.33) for OpenVMS/VAX (UPI=GX8) 
		 or ULTRIX/RISC (UPI=MGU): 

QL-GX8A9-AA	 V/V License 					      4,250
QL-MGUA8-AA	 U/R License					      4,225
QL-***A*-RA	 Update License						960

QA-***AA-GZ	 Documentation Kit					275
QA-***AA-H5	 Documentation on TK50					900

QT-***A*-I9	 Installation Service					380
QT-***A*-L9	 LPS Service						480
QT-***AA-E5	 MDDS, TK50						360
QT-***AA-KZ	 Documentation Service					240


                 V1.4 POLYCENTER (DECmcc) Terminal Server Access Module 
                 (SPD 43.99) for OpenVMS/VAX ONLY:

QL-GVTA9-AA	 License					      3,750
QL-GVTA9-RA	 Update License						720

QA-GVTAA-GZ	 Documentation Kit					 50
QA-GVTAA-H5	 Documentation on TK50					525

QT-GVTA9-I9	 Installation Service					380
QT-GVTA9-L9	 LPS Service						360
QT-GVTAA-E5	 MDDS, TK50						360
QT-GVTAA-KZ	 Documentation Service					156


SERVICES

Contact your local Service Representative for details on the complete 
upgrade, support and Network Management Services (SPD 37.20) available. 

RESOURCES

o  DECmcc Notesfile -- AZUR::MCC

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6235.1where/when do we get the kit?DPDMAI::GALVINThe Energizer Bunny's Trainer...Sun Feb 12 1995 19:5711
    Hubert,
    
    We have purchased the T2.4 software for our client here in the US.  How
    do we go about getting the V2.4 version?  Do we go through Susan or the
    Sales Rep or get the kit off the network as we did for the T version...
    
    thanks,
    
    /Mic
    
    
6235.2OSLACT::BJORNBj�rn Olav HaugomMon Feb 13 1995 10:274
Where is the net-kit?

Bj�rn Olav Haugom
Norway
6235.3More info on V1.4 kitsAZUR::LANGENSTEINHubert Langensteiner, @VBEMon Feb 13 1995 12:2583
From:	NAME: SUSAN POMERLEAU @VBO          
	FUNC: DECMcc Product Manager          
	TEL: (33) 92.95.6110                  <POMERLEAU.SUSAN AT ETCA1 at VALMTS at VBO>
To:	NAME: VMSMail User LANGENSTEIN <LANGENSTEIN@AZUR@ULYSSE@MRGATE@VALMTS>

Hubert,
	Apparently, several requests are coming from the field which are asking 
the same question.  Can you please put this reoccurring question (listed below) 
into the notes file and/or send it to persons who ask so that we may have one
standard response.  Thank-you in advance.

QUESTION:
	 "Is there an official SSB version (V1.4 & V2.4) of the 
	  DECmcc products available on the network to -pull- 
	  across from a public directory as we did previously 
	  for the field test kits (T1.4 & T2.4)?"

ANSWER:  "No"  

	Let me explain a bit for those who may need to understand why...  The 
"T" version kits are field test kits which the DECmcc engineering group has the 
right to distribute to customers who would like to participate as field test 
sites.  
	NOTE:   for those customers who participated in evaluating 
		these field test versions (thank-you), however, the
		software pulled from the public directories is the
		property of Digital Equipment Corporation and is NOT
		considered an official version of the product (supported
		by Digital).  That's what the SSB version is for, it
		symbolizes the fact that it has been regression tested 
		extensively and has passed through Digitals official
		release process (ensuring certain quality levels and
		the availability of required ongoing support).

		WARNING !!!  For those of you who pulled "T" (field
		test) versions of the software off of the network, 
		this software has a "time-bomb" embedded into it to
		ensure that it is not used in production environments.
		The ULTRIX field test was started in September and ended
		in December 1994; the OpenVMS field test started in 
		December 1994 and will end in March 1995.  

		THE FIELD TEST ("T1.4/T2.4") SOFTWARE WILL CEASE TO 
	 		  OPERATE AS OF MAY 15, 1995.


	Customers can purchase the official "V1.4 or V2.4" versions of the 
software via the normal ordering channels.  Software is available via the 
CONDIST (CD-ROM distribution for ULTRIX/RISC as of February 10th, 1995, and for 
OpenVMS/VAX as of March 17th, 1995) or via normal ordering channels (TK50 media 
for ULTRIX/RISC as of the end of February, and for OpenVMS as mid-March).   

	Please check to see if your customer has "right to next version" 
licensed media via automatic update software subscription services (LPS: 
QT-*****-L9) or due to the fact that they purchased a traditional update license 
(QA-*****-RA) at the time that they bought their original V1.3 or V2.3 DECmcc 
license (prior to 1995).  If they do, then V1.4/V2.4 has already been purchased;
if your customer has NEITHER of these options, then they will have to purchase 
the new version media.  Discounts are available via your local sales 
representative under normal migration conditions.  

	No special migration part numbers from V1.3 to V1.4 are available except 
for ULTRIX users who can chose to migration from V1.3 or V1.4 to the V2.0 OSF 
version of DECmcc (PNM200).  If your customer is an ULTRIX user who wishes to 
migrate to the ALPHA AXP OSF1 based solution, please contact me.  If your 
customer is an OpenVMS/VAX user, then they should migrate to the V1.4/V2.4 
version of the DECmcc.

	Lastly, ALL DECmcc users are invited to pull a copy of the DECmcc 
Newsletter from the public directory.  It provides information regarding new 
releases, migration plans, product positioning, training, and best of all, the 
establishment of a DECmcc Users Group beginning this spring.  Act NOW!!! Pull
across a copy of the Newsletter and fill in the DECmcc User's Group 
Questionnaire in ATTACHMENT "D" and return it to me ASAP to be added to the
invitation list.  Don't wait, these invitations will be sent out very soon!!!  


Best Regards, 

Susan Pomerleau
DECmcc Product Manager


6235.4Say it ain't so, Joe!DPDMAI::GALVINThe Energizer Bunny&#039;s Trainer...Mon Feb 13 1995 14:0924
    Susan/Hubert,
    
    This is very strange... Does that mean that anyone that installed the
    T2.4 release will have to re-install when the V2.4 release has been
    released?  And this is going to occur in March '95?  And there's a time
    bomb in the current 'T' release?  
    
    This is going to cause a stir... I'm sure I'm not the only person that
    has purchased T2.4 thinking that when the V2.4 release comes out I need
    to simply re-install the kit to change the 'T' to a 'V'... and what's
    this time bomb stuff... I thought that's why we used LMF?
    
    I'm very disappointed in this decision if I'm reading it right... My
    client was forced to go to T2.4 due to VMS compatibility issues... we
    sold them a VAX4705A that supported OpenVMS V6.1, they didn't want to
    go backwards to V5.5-2H4, and they wanted OSI capabilities... now
    you're telling me, as I get ready to rollout that we must re-install
    several months worth of work...?  Not a good management decision!
    
    /Mic
    
    
    say it ain't so, Joe?
    
6235.5No reason to worry, I think.AZUR::LANGENSTEINHubert Langensteiner, @VBEMon Feb 13 1995 15:4810
>>    This is going to cause a stir... I'm sure I'm not the only person that
>>    has purchased T2.4 thinking that when the V2.4 release comes out I need
>>    to simply re-install the kit to change the 'T' to a 'V'... and what's
>>    this time bomb stuff... I thought that's why we used LMF?

You named it. Eventually you simply re-instal to change the "T" to a "V".
Well, it does a little bit more ... some additional problems were also fixed
which are in V2.4 (or V1.4 for the rest). No reason to worry, 

Hubert.
6235.6good news!DPDMAI::GALVINThe Energizer Bunny&#039;s Trainer...Mon Feb 13 1995 18:1210
    Hubert,
    
    whew... you saved me lots of grief...  As one of the original
    developers of DECmcc used to put it... MCC = MY CONSTANT COMPANION,
    has been an intregal part of the pain I've felt for the past *few*
    months... thanks for the clarification.
    
    /Mic
    
    
6235.7Where is the public directory?BAHTAT::BONDWed Feb 15 1995 13:586
    Hi,
    
    In .3, Susan suggests we pull a copy of the DECmcc newsletter "from the
    public directory".  Can somebody give a more explicit pointer please?
    
    chris
6235.8your welcomeAZUR::LANGENSTEINHubert Langensteiner, @VBEWed Feb 15 1995 14:3510
Hello Chris,

the newsletter is announced in note 6187 (see also conference notice in the
character cell user interface after opening the MCC conference, otherwise in
decwindows user interface from pull-down menu CONFERENCE and option SHOW/MODIFY)

Agree, it's not so obvious if one uses decwindows style user interface. To
save you searching, the newsletter can bbe copied from :

        TOUDON::MCC$PUBLIC:[INFO]MCC_NEWSLETTER_1.PS  13728 blocks!
6235.9short summaryAZUR::LANGENSTEINHubert Langensteiner, @VBEFri Feb 17 1995 10:3025
	The kits (both ULTRIX/RISC - supporting 4.2A to 4.4, and OpenVMS/VAX - 
supporting 5.5-2 to 6.1) have been sent to SSB (manufacturing).

	They can be ordered through the normal processes (unless your customer 
has subscribed to a QT-*****-L9 automatic update service or a QL-*****-RA right 
to next update option that had to be purchased at the same time as the original 
license was bought).

	A Sales Update article is lised in the DECmcc Notes file AZUR::MCC, 
note 6235 or can be copied from TOUDON::MCC$PUBLIC:[INFO]MCC_SALES_UPDATE.TXT
for your review.  But more importantly, please copy the DECmcc Newsletter from 
TOUDON::MCC$PUBLIC:[INFO]MCC_NEWSLETTER_1.PS.  You will find a lot of good 
information there and it is critical that your customers fill out and return 
ATTACHEMENT "D".  This will trigger their receiving regular copies of the 
DECmcc Newsletter and an invitation to the DECmcc Users group which is having 
its first meeting this May. Please get this information ASAP and get your 
customers to turn-it-around prior to March 15.  If I don't have (at a minimum)
their names and addresses by that date, they will not receive invitations 
unfortunately.

	I hope this mail, the Newsletter and Sales Update attached can provide 
you with the information you need to distribute to your customers.  Thanks for 
your continued support, and please don't hesitate to write with any further 
questions you may have to Susan Pomerleau, DECmcc Product Manager, @VBO and
ULYSSE::POMERLEAU, DTN 828-6110.
6235.10SSB kits on the net?BWTEAL::W_MCGAWFri Mar 10 1995 17:1013
    Hi,
    
    Two questions:
    
    Does this mean that DECmcc is getting new life?!!!!
    
    Is there a place that internal people that support the product can pull
    the SSB release of V1.4/V2.4 kits to install?
    
    Thanks,
    Walt McGaw
    Digital Network Services Unit
    CSC/CS
6235.11What about T1.4 for IPMT cases?BWTEAL::W_MCGAWFri Mar 10 1995 17:1413
    Hi,
    
    I need to clarify something here with the TIME BOMB.  What about the
    customers who installed T1.4 as a fix to IPMT escalations?  Are those
    also going to stop functioning?  If so, it would be nice if a list of
    those customers could be formulated and sent to the customer support 
    centers for follow up.  Once we close the call, it is difficult for
    us to go back and find who has been given the T1.4/T2.4 kits.
    
    Thanks,
    Walt McGaw
    Digital Network Services Unit
    CSC/CS
6235.12"T" must be eventually replaced by "V"AZUR::LANGENSTEINHubert Langensteiner, @VBEFri Mar 10 1995 19:0512
Everybody who installed T1.4 should upgrade to V1.4. 

Obviously, this upgrade would zip a problem fix proposed after V1.4 wa
submitted to SSB - the T1.4/T2.4 plus fix implementations you mentioned.
We already planned to generate a list of these cases and send a notice.

We may also want to compile a list of these fixes that were proposed after
V1.4 and make it available to the users, e.g. perhaps also post it in this 
notes file.

Regards,
Hubert.
6235.13Answer to .10?BWTEAL::W_MCGAWFri Mar 10 1995 19:197
    HI,
    
    I would still like the two questions in .10 answered or atleast point
    me to another note in this conference for the inforamtion.
    
    Thanks,
    Walt
6235.14My answer to 6235.10AZUR::LANGENSTEINHubert Langensteiner, @VBEMon Mar 13 1995 14:0219
>>    Does this mean that DECmcc is getting new life?!!!!

Do not know how you define "new life"? As you probably saw in IPMT we do our
best to reduce the backlog of problem reports received in the past and to more
timely respond to new entries.

>>    Is there a place that internal people that support the product can pull
    the SSB release of V1.4/V2.4 kits to install?

MCC V1.4 for Ultrix is released on CD media as part of the software library
update, and on TK 50 otherwise.

MCC V1.4 for VAX/VMS is released on TK 50 and wil be also released on CD media
as part of the software library update on Mrach 17th (this week). 

I suggest that you access your local software library for pulling the SSB kits.

Regards,
Hubert.
6235.15Explanation of "new life" for MCC.GADWAL::W_MCGAWMon Mar 13 1995 19:5417
Hi Hubert,

>>>    Does this mean that DECmcc is getting new life?!!!!

>Do not know how you define "new life"? As you probably saw in IPMT we do our
>best to reduce the backlog of problem reports received in the past and to more
>timely respond to new entries.

What I meant was this:  It sounds like we are going to continue the product
(possibly enhance it) since a customer user group is being started and a
newsletter.  We were told originally that DECmcc was to be retired and
Polycenter Netview would be replacing it.  Newsletters and users groups were
things customers wanted when we were actively supporting the product and they
never came about.

Thanks,
Walt