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Notice: | Use IPMT for problems. Newsletter location in note 6187 |
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Created: | Mon Aug 21 1989 |
Last Modified: | Wed Jun 04 1997 |
Last Successful Update: | Fri Jun 06 1997 |
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6006.0. "NetView/TeMIP Strategy Statement" by DELNI::FERREIRA () Thu May 26 1994 18:01
>>> The positioning & messages below should be used whenever talking to Telco
customers, or anytime you are asked about TeMIP.
The key phase is TeMIP is for "operators of Telecommunications and
large corporate voice/data networks."
Thank you,
Gail
From: VALMTS::VALMTS::MRGATE::"ALGOA1::HARY.CLAUDE" 6-MAY-1994 22:27:38.43
To: @Distribution_List
CC:
Subj: I: Digital Network Mgmt Strategy Statement: NetView & TeMIP
From: NAME: Claude HARY @VBO
FUNC: CBS Product Management
TEL: DTN 828-5232 <HARY.CLAUDE AT ALGOA1 at VALMTS at VBO>
To: See Below
CC: See Below
Dear all,
I am very pleased to provide you with a consise / clear statement
on the Digital Network Management Strategy / Digital's approaches
to meet the needs of both Data and Voice/Data Network Management
market.
*****************************************************************
This strategy statement has been produced jointly by Network
System Management Group (working on Polycenter NetView and
Polycenter Framework - DECmcc) and the the Telecommunication &
Media Unit developping the TeMIP Program and Product set.
*****************************************************************
We do expect this paper to clarify Digital position and help you
to sell the best suited solution to your customers.
The document contains 3 main parts:
- 1st part is for INTERNAL & EXTERNAL USE.
Don't hesitate to distribute it to your current and potential
customers and partners (e.g. when it help in your selling
process).
This part provides an overview on how the 2 market segments are
addressed by the 2 different products: NetView and TeMIP.
- 2nd part is FOR INTERNAL USE ONLY
*********************************
This 2nd part contains a PRODUCT POSITIONING MATRIX and a
Questions and Answers list on NetView and TeMIP (e.g. strategy,
product retirement or not ...).
Attached below is the text version of the document, a postscript
version will be sent in another mail.
Both version of the document are also availalble on:
ULYSSE::USER2:[HARY.PUBLIC]NETMGMT_STRATEGY_STATEMENT.TXT
ULYSSE::USER2:[HARY.PUBLIC]NETMGMT_STRATEGY_STATEMENT.PS
We do expect this document will help you in your network
management business.
Regards
Claude
DIGITAL HAS 2 WINNING APROACHES TO MEET THE NEEDS OF BOTH
DATA AND VOICE/DATA NETWORK MANAGEMENT SEGMENTS
NETWORK MANAGEMENT MARKET SEGMENT OVERVIEW
In today's highly competitive and changing environment, it is vital
that network users and operators have an effective and appropriate solution
enabling them to manage their networks (whether their networks are data
only, or a combination of data and voice). Digital has paid special
attention to these different market segment needs in preparing its overall
network management strategy.
Data network users and operators search for a network management
solution that meets their needs. They an easy to use graphical user
interface with an SNMP (Simple Network Management Protocol) oriented
platform, together with the availability of a lot of third party
applications to manage their routers, hubs and other pervasive devices
and protocols (such as DECnet) that are present.
The operators of Telecommunications and large corporate voice/data
networks search for a network management solution that not only conforms to
the telecommunications industry standards (OMNIPoint, TMN CCITT M.3010,
etc) but can cope with the extremely demanding requirements of this market
(ten of thousands of network elements, multiple management protocols,
thousands of events or alarms per second, magnitude of the network, etc),
and can address the easy integration of new network elements, new services,
and associated applications.
Digital's Network Management Strategy is supported by 2 Corporate Products:
DATA NETWORK MANAGEMENT: POLYCENTER NetView
In order to meet the needs of the data network management segment, Digital
has the POLYCENTER NetView solution. This solution is based on a
partnership between Digital and IBM to jointly develop and promote a single
industry leading SNMP-manager (IBM's NetView/6000). This joint offering is
complemented by a growing number of applications available from the
Digital/IBM NetView Association. In addition to the standard TCP/IP
environment, Digital now also provides the ability to manage DECnet
environments with NetView. Customers who have previously invested in
Digital's DECmcc or MSU products can now migrate with confidence, and at
their own pace, to the POLYCENTER NetView environment on the
state-of-the-art Alpha AXP platform. POLYCENTER NetView and DECnet Manager
on Alpha AXP OSF/1 are now available; Windows NT (on Intel & Alpha AXP PCs)
and Open VMS are planned; this is Digital's general purpose network
management product strategy.
For more information, contact Gail Ferreira (USA - Tel.: +1-508.952.3756)
LARGE VOICE/DATA and TELECOMMUNICATIONS NETWORK Management: TeMIP
In order to address the needs of the Telecommunications industry and large
corporate voice/data network managers, Digital has produced and continues
to aggressively invest in its TeMIP (Telecommunications Management
Information Platform) solution.
TeMIP is a unique set of core applications and is based on
standards such as OMNIpoint 1 (Network Management Forum recommendations),
ISO's OSI (International Standards Organization's Open System
Interconnect), and CCITT (Telecommunications Network Management
recommendations for public networks). TeMIP allows users to create
additional applications and integrate them into a framework to form a
customised network management solution. This integrated solution addresses
the needs for heterogeneous, multi-vendor and multi-protocol networks
including the management of traditional equipment with non-standard
protocols (such as ASCII/TL1). It is this flexible, customised approach
which provides network users and operators with a competitive advantage in
the market place. TeMIP is based on an open, modular and object-oriented
architecture implemented in a flexible, client/server manner which allows
the development and deployment of distributed, hierarchical network
management solutions.
The TeMIP solution is currently available on RISC for ULTRIX, and
will soon be available on Alpha AXP for OSF/1.
For more information, contact Claude Hary (France - Tel.: +33-92.95.52.32
DIGITAL'S NETWORK MANAGEMENT PRODUCT SET
The POLYCENTER NetView and TeMIP Programs offer many benefits to network
users and operators and are tailored to their specific network management
needs. Both solutions include the ability to integrate a broad range of
quality ISV (Independent Software Vendor) applications which have been
built and deployed on Digital's state-of-the art (64-bit Alpha AXP
architecture and platforms.
Digital's Corporate Network Management products "ROLL-OUT PLAN":
POLYCENTER NetView:
Digital's POLYCENTER Manager on NetView is currently available on Alpha AXP
for OSF/1 and will soon be available on Alpha AXP for OpenVMS and
Microsoft's Windows NT (both on Intel and Alpha AXP based PCs). Future
versions of this software will also be simultaneously released on both
Digital and IBM platforms/operating systems.
For more information, contact Gail Ferreira (USA - Tel.:+1-508.952.3756)
Note: The POLYCENTER Framework (DECmcc), POLYCENTER Network Manager 200 &
400 will continue to be sold and supported on RISC for ULTRIX and on VAX
for VMS for up to 5 years. DECmcc/MSU customers can migrate to POLYCENTER
NetView when it is convenient for them.
For more information, contact Susan Pomerleau (France - Tel.:+33-92.95.61.10)
TeMIP
Digital's TeMIP solution is currently avaialable on RISC for ULTRIX.
Digital plans to deliver the TeMIP product set on Alpha AXP for OSF/1 in a
phased approach starting mid-1994. The TeMIP product set includes: the
framework (which is based on the POLYCENTER Framework - DECmcc), TeMIP V2.0
(porting to OSF/1 and miscellaneous functional enhancements to V1.1 and
internationalisation capabilities), security functionality, and Access
Module Toolkits (OSI/CMIP, ASCII/TL1 and SNMP). In addition, TeMIP
distributed client/server capabilities are planned.
The TeMIP program is also adding other functions which are important to the
telecommunications industry. These include the OSI Agent (in the form of a
Presentation Module using OSI/CMIP), Graphical User Interface customisation
capabilities, and extra management applications such as alarm correlation,
traffic management and configuration management.
Note: The TeMIP product set which is currently available on RISC for Ultrix
will continue to be supported in order to preserve customer investments and
insure a smooth evolution of TeMIP based projects which are already
deployed.
For more information, contact Claude Hary (France - Tel.: +33-92.95.52.32)
Note:
The following are trademarks of Digital Equipment Corporation:
Alpha AXP, AXP, DEC, DEC OSF/1, POLYCENTER, TeMIP, ULTRIX and
DECsystem.
NetView is a registered trademark of International Business
Machines Corporation
OSF is a registered trademark of the Open Software Foundation
PRODUCT POSITIONING
(Digital internal use only)
POLYCENTER/NetView TeMIP
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TYPE OF NETWORK
MANAGED: Data Networks Large Corporate
Voice/Data Networks,
Telecommunications Networks
WHAT IS MANAGED: Data associated with Data associated with new
managing LANs & WANs; & existing technologies
including routers, hubs, (ATM, SONET/SDH, GSM/IS.41,
other network devices, & legacy systems) for
& eventually PBXs transmission & switching
and telecom network services
such as Virtual Private
Network (VPN)
WHAT SIZE NETWORKS: Hundreds - thousands Thousands - tens of
of elements thousands of elements
EVENTS PER SECOND
SUPPORTED: Tens - hundreds Hundreds - thousands
STANDARDS SUPPORTED: SNMP, XMP OMNIPoint, ISO's OSI,
OpenView Window API CCITT (ITU), X/Open, XMP/XOM
PROTOCOLS SUPPORTED: SNMP, TCP/IP, DECnet SNMP, TCP/IP, DECnet
OSI CMIP, ASCII/TL1,
LEGACY PROTOCOLS
MAIN FEATURES: Graphical User Interface CORE FUNCTIONAL APPLICATIONS:
with full network picture Fault Management
and navigation ability, Security Management
easy installation & Configuration Management
tailoring, IP/DECnet Graphical User Interface
autotopology, event
configuration, & DEVELOPMENT ENVIRONMENT:
report generation. Access Modules Toolkits
(ASCII/TL1, OSI CMIP,SNMP)
Functional Building Blocks
PRODUCT POSITIONING (cont'd)
(Digital Internal use only)
POLYCENTER/NetView TeMIP
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MAIN BENEFITS: Quick, reliable problem Building block approach
solving enables integrated solution
Sophisticated display to be quickly built and fit
aids, & problem to specific network
detection/resolution requirements
Can be tailored to Wide variety of network
customer's network elements and protocols
supported (including legacy)
Same architecture used for
remote and local management
(saves development and
operations costs)
OPERATING SYSTEM: OSF/1 (now), OpenVMS ULTRIX (now)
& Windows NT (planned) OSF/1 (porting underway)
DIGITAL HARDWARE
SUPPORTED: Alpha AXP DECsystems & Alpha AXP
SUPPPORT FOR OTHER
VENDORS HW: YES Only on a project basis
TYPICAL SALE
(HW,SW,SVCS): $15-100K $100K to several Million
TO WHOM DO
YOU SELL: Site IT Managers & Corporate IT or VP of
Network Managers Network Operations
WORLD-WIDE CORPORATE
PRODUCT: Yes Yes
DEPLOYMENT: Typically ordered Typically sold as a System
out of price book, Integration project with
customer installable partners
REFERENCE SITES
AVAILABLE: Yes Yes
CONTACT PERSON: Gail Ferreira Claude Hary
DTN 227-3756 DTN 828-5232
DELNI::FERREIRA ULYSSE::HARY
Questions and Answers: POLYCENTER NetView and TeMIP
(Digital Internal Use only)
Q: Is TeMIP based on DECmcc ?
A: TeMIP is based on Digital's EMA (Enterprise Management
Architecture) which is also the basis for the DECmcc product.
TeMIP has taken advantage of the expertise that we have gained in
the development of DECmcc and other network management initiatives,
particularly in the area of kernel management functions. Further
development of these functions are taking place in the context of
the evolution of the TeMIP product set.
Q: Is TeMIP a Digital Corporate Product?
A: Yes. The TeMIP Program was first announced in November 1991,
TeMIP first version was available by Nov 1992 and TeMIP V1.1 was
available in October 1993. TeMIP has already been adopted by
TSPs (Telecom Services Providers) and TEMs (Telecom Manufacturers),
and other large corporation with voice / data network management
requirements world-wide.
Q: Has DECmcc been retired?
A: The DECmcc product family (now referred to as the POLYCENTER
Framework, Network Manager 200 & Network Manager 400) will continue
to be sold and supported on the VMS and ULTRIX operating systems
for up to 5 years.
Q: What is the relationship between TeMIP and POLYCENTER NetView?
A: TeMIP is Digital's strategic solution for the management of large
Corporate Voice/Data networks particularly found in the Telecom
Industry.
POLYCENTER NetView is Digital's strategic solution for managing
data networks for open client/server environments. These two
solutions (TeMIP and POLYCENTER NetView) will be able to share data,
and will interoperate to an increasing extent over time (based on
our customers' needs).
Q: What is the plan for DECmcc customers who want to stay on DECmcc?
A: DECmcc will continue to be sold/supported for up to 5 years.
We recently announced that DECmcc will support the next release of
VMS and Ultrix and will continue to protect the investment of our
DECmcc customers; Digital will provide tools and incentives to help
customers migrate when they are ready to do so.
Q: Will DECmcc be available on Alpha AXP for OSF/1 and/or OpenVMS?
A: No. DECmcc as a product will not be available on OSF/1; TeMIP and
POLYCENTER NetView will be available on OSF/1 to meet the needs
previously addressed by DECmcc on VMS and Ultrix. POLYCENTER NetView
only is planned to be available on OpenVMS AXP sometime in the future.
We will work with customers on an individual/project basis to help
them migrate from DECmcc to TeMIP (on OSF/1) or POLYCENTER NetView
(on OSF/1 or OpenVMS) when they are ready to do so.
Q: Does TeMIP comply with OMNIpoint?
A: Yes amd more ! TeMIP is compliant with OMNIpoint which is a
management standard that has been issued by the NMF (Network
Management Forum) which promotes standards for large service
providers (including traditional telecom, and mobile cellular
radio networks). In addition, TeMIP also includes extensive
features to handle a wide range of text-based protocols (as well
as OMNIpoint CMIP) and support other standards for distributed
client/server operations (such as ISO's OSI, CCITT/M.3010, DCE
and X/Open).
Q: Will POLYCENTER NetView support voice (telephony) as well as data
networks ?
A: POLYCENTER NetView is an open platform and we encourage all network
management developers, including those who manage telephony networks,
to join the NetView Association comprised of ISVs (Independent
Software Vendors). It is certainly likely that the growing range of
applications developed by this Association will include voice/telephony
network management (as well as other solutions) in the future.
However, we are confident that the robust needs of the
Telecommunications industry will be best fulfilled by the TeMIP
Corporate product set which has been designed specifically for this
demanding market (high volume alarm event handling, hundreds of
thousands of events per second, voice equipment interfaces, etc).
Q: Will POLYCENTER NetView be "integrated" with TeMIP?
A: Over time POLYCENTER NetView and TeMIP will "INTER-OPERATE". Alarms
and events will be shared by the platforms in the near future.
Q: Will TeMIP be based on POLYCENTER NetView?
A: TeMIP will continue to be based on the current EMA (Enterprise
Management Architecture - DECmcc) based kernel for the foreseeable
future due to richness and robustness of this technology. Over time,
TeMIP "may" take advantage of POLYCENTER NetView capabilities which
can be applied to the Telecom market. At a minimum, both TeMIP and
POLYCENTER NetView will inter-operate.
Q: How "big" is a large voice/data network?
A: Different customers obviously have different interpretations of
how "big" a large voice/data network is. In this context, a typically
'large' voice/data network includes tens of thousands of NEs (Network
Elements), multiple protocols and technologies such as ATM, SDH/SONET
and GSM/IS.41 (mobile). TeMIP has been used successfully for over 2
years by customers in the Telecom industry with environments of
this size and complexity where high alarm rates need to be
monitored.
Q. Where has TeMIP been sold?
A: TeMIP has been sold to TSPs and TEMs world-wide. Wireline and
wireless TSPs are deploying TeMIP as their Operations Systems for
their national and regional operations centres (e.g. multiple
projects covering switching, microwave transmission, SDH, PCN and
GSM management). TeMIP is also used as the basis for EMS (Element
Management Systems) by TEMs (e.g. for ATM and SDH). Recently,
interest in TeMIP has been expressed by large corporate network
managers with large private voice/data networks.
Q. What is the average size / cost of TeMIP versus POLYCENTER NetView
projects?
A: The cost of a TeMIP solution is dependent on the size and
complexity of the network, however, a typical TeMIP project exceeds
$1M (HW, SW and Services). The Polycenter NetView solution also is
dependent on the size and complexity of the network, and the average
cost of a POLYCENTER NetView project is around $50K ((HW, SW and
Services). POLYCENTER NetView is more customer installable while
TeMIP is more SI (System Integration) based business.
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