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Title:DECmcc user notes file. Does not replace IPMT.
Notice:Use IPMT for problems. Newsletter location in note 6187
Moderator:TAEC::BEROUD
Created:Mon Aug 21 1989
Last Modified:Wed Jun 04 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:6497
Total number of notes:27359

6003.0. "Problem with MTU" by NPSS::WADE (Network Systems Support) Tue May 24 1994 10:37

    
    I'm having a problem with loading a mib on a 1.3 DECmcc platform.
    I get this error -
    
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    $ @VAX110$DKA0:[MCC]MCC_TCPIP_MTU.COM;2
    
    Welcome to the DECmcc TCP/IP MIB Translator Utility driver procedure
    V1.3.0
    
      24-MAY-1994 06:16:34
    
    This procedure operates in a 2 phased manner --
    Phase 1 translates a MIB definition into a management specification.
    Phase 2 (as an option) translates the management specification into a
      dictionary loadable file and updates the DECmcc data dictionary.
    
    Phase 1 -- Enter name(s) of file(s) to translate
      (separate multiple files by commas):
    VAX110$DKA0:[MCC]DEC_ELAN_GIGA_VENDOR_MIB
    _V11.TXT
    
    Phase 1 -- (prune option):
      You have the option to PRUNE the entity model tree created by the
        MIB Translator.
      Pruning will cause child entities without attributes to be discarded.
    Do you want to PRUNE the entity model tree? (Y/N) [N]:
    
    Phase 1 -- (help generation option):
    Do you want to build HELP text from the mib ? (Y/N) [N]:
    
    Phase 2 -- Do you want to update the DECmcc data dictionary? (Y/N) [N]:
    
    Issuing following command:
      $ MTU = "$ SYS$SYSTEM:MCC_TCPIP_MTU.EXE"
    
                                       * * *
    
    (Now processing file # 1 out of a list of 1 file(s) ...)
    
    Beginning Phase 1 for file
    VAX110$DKA0:[MCC]DEC_ELAN_GIGA_VENDOR_MIB_V11.TXT;
    
      24-MAY-1994 06:17:18
    Now starting to run the MIB Translator ...
    This may take approximately 1-5 minutes.
    Issuing following command:
      $ MTU VAX110$DKA0:[MCC]DEC_ELAN_GIGA_VENDOR_MIB_V11.TXT;
    The MCC product is not installed on your system.
    Please contact your Digitial Sales Representative for more information.
    MIB translation completed successfully.
      24-MAY-1994 06:17:18
    
    Phase 1 for file VAX110$DKA0:[MCC]DEC_ELAN_GIGA_VENDOR_MIB_V11.TXT;
    completed.
    
    Phase 2 for file VAX110$DKA0:[MCC]DEC_ELAN_GIGA_VENDOR_MIB_V11.TXT; 
    not performed.
    (MIB definition translated into management specification but
      management specification not translated into dictionary loadable file
    and
      DECmcc data dictionary not updated)
    
                                       * * *
    
      24-MAY-1994 06:17:18
    
    Normal successful completion.

    -----------------------------------
    
    I wanted to check out the mib to see if it would translate okay.
    There are no .log, .lis or .ms files created!
    
    This system has 1.3 installed and running.  I can run mcc and query
    entities on the network but the mtu log says mcc is not installed.
    
    One strange thing that I noticed is MCC_TCPIP_MTU.EXE on this system - 
    
    
    Directory SYS$COMMON:[SYSEXE]
    
    MCC_TCPIP_MTU.EXE;4               76  13-APR-1994 13:01:27.73
           
    
    On a 1.3 system that works MCC_TCPIP_MTU.EXE looks like this -
    
    Directory SYS$COMMON:[SYSEXE]
    
    MCC_TCPIP_MTU.EXE;1
                            586  10-FEB-1993 05:06:47.55
     
    Any ideas?
    
    Thanks,
    Bill
      
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6003.1ANNECY::TERHORST_CTue May 24 1994 11:4012
At this moment I'm working too (and dealing too with problems) with the
MCC_TCPIP_MTU command file. Regarding to the executable, the date and size
of mine are the same as yours (586/588     10-FEB-1993 05:06:47.55).

To give you a suggestion, just take a small MIB from the examples you got
within the MCC kit, and just start phase 1 first to see if you get any 
problems there. After it you can check if you have any xxx.lis, xxx.ms or
xxx.enum_ms file.

hopefully this will bring you up to new ideas c.q. solutions.

good luck Chris...
6003.2Silly questionSCCA::daveAhh, but fortunately, I have the key to escape reality.Tue May 24 1994 11:593
Are you running MCC while trying to update the dictionary
at the same time?

6003.3NPSS::WADENetwork Systems SupportWed May 25 1994 13:3231
    re .1
    
    The base note describes only running phase I (I answered no to
    dictionary update question).   The error message states that mcc is not
    installed but it is and it works.  
    
    The mtu image containing 5xx blocks is the correct image and was
    release with V1.3.  This system has an mtu image containing 5x blocks
    and I have no idea where it came from.
                                          
    re .2
    
    I am not attempting to update the dictionary (phase II).  Also the error 
    message would be very different if I were attempting to update the 
    dictionary while a process was running mcc. 
    
    I have used the mtu utility extensively in the past and never had a
    problem running phase I while there were mcc processes running.  I have
    seen the unable to update the dictionary error during phase II caused
    by other mcc processes running on the system.
    
    The log states that phase I completed successfully but no files are
    created and I get the mcc is not installed error.
    
    Is there a patch kit out there that contains a new V1.3 mtu image?
    
    ????
    Bill
     
     
    
6003.4Was a new version V2.4 of RSM (remote system manager) installed lately??MADMXX::WOESTEMEYERWhy??...Why not!!!Wed May 25 1994 16:486
Was a new version  V2.4 of RSM (remote system manager) installed lately??

V2.4 of RSM replaced alot of MCC images without checking to see if MCC was 
installed or or not.  I believe note 5173 lists these images.

Steve
6003.5RSM is the problem!NPSS::WADENetwork Systems SupportThu May 26 1994 13:197
    That's the ticket!
    
    I noticed those images (mentioned in 5173.3) yesterday and I'm copying 
    the good 1.3 images over now.  An anal/image/head shows RSM 2.4.
    
    Thanks,
    Bill