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Title:DECmcc user notes file. Does not replace IPMT.
Notice:Use IPMT for problems. Newsletter location in note 6187
Moderator:TAEC::BEROUD
Created:Mon Aug 21 1989
Last Modified:Wed Jun 04 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:6497
Total number of notes:27359

5895.0. "DECmcc prob on VXT2000+" by BWTEAL::W_MCGAW () Fri Mar 04 1994 12:27

    Hi,
    
    I have a customer that is using new VXT2000+'s and experiencing a
    problem where the map display of DECmcc is garbled if he bumps the
    VXT's mouse while MCC is initializing.  I've heard that VT1200's and
    VXT2000's are not supported but this is not explicit in the SPD/SSA. 
    All it says there is for serving the display to another device you need
    the following:
    
    
     For remote execution, the following Motif components must be installed
     on the same machine:
    
     Server Machine:
    
     o  OpenVMS Motif Compute Server
    
     o  OpenVMS Motif Device Support
    
     Client Machine:
    
     o  OpenVMS Motif Compute Server
    
     o  OpenVMS Motif Device Support
    
    
    According to the customer, the VXT2000+ fully supports Motif.  Anyone
    have a clue?
    
    Thanks,
    Walt
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5895.1use a workstationVFOVAX::GALVINTeam USA in '94 World Cup!Tue Mar 08 1994 15:0718
    Walt,
    
    You get the old argument about what the SPD *supports* and what is
    *tolerable*...  I would NOT recommend an X terminal display for MCC,
    unless it's just for *show*...  If you want to do any IMPM
    manipulation, you'll save yourself alot of trouble upfront by getting a
    more powerful workstation...  I recommend a minimum of a 3100/m76.  Put
    alot of memory in the beast and put a large pagefile, ie:  1-200k
    blocks to make things move...
    
    You haven't shared what the customer's expectations of using the IMPM
    are, so I would assume s\he would like to do realtime monitoring...
    this is NOT possible with a VXT.  The marketing folks might kill me...
    but, I've been there...  Hope this helps.
    
    
    /Mic
    
5895.2the VXT2000+'s are for displayBWTEAL::W_MCGAWThu Mar 10 1994 18:2917
    Hi Mic,
    
    The customer is trying to use the VXT2000+'s for "watching" only.  He
    will be maintaining all of the mcc information on a VS4000-90 and wants
    the VXT's to be as operator consoles for different areas.  The people
    using the VXT's will only be watching for notifications and alarms
    occurring.  The real problem here is the piece about the mouse.  If it
    is bumped during initialization of MCC, the map is a mess.  If he shuts
    down and restarts MCC (without bumping the mouse) it comes up (and
    works) fine.  This did not happen on vaxstations and I don't believe it
    was a problem on vxt2000 or vt1200 displays either.
    
    The customer just wants to know the bottom line... Is he supported on
    the VXT2000+ (and happy) or not supported (and fuming) ;-)
    
    Thanks,
    Walt
5895.3Works for us!KAOFS::CARSWELLFri Mar 11 1994 10:2819
	Walt,

	We use VXT2000 and VXT2000+ running/displaying MCC Map and Notification
Windows from a VAX 4400 platform, with no problems.   The 4400 engine has 96M
of memory and lots of disk space, and the operator workstations(VXT's), create
a X-Session on the 4400.  We then initiate a SCHEDULER job that determines the
workstation being run from, SETs DISPLAY, and then MANA/ENTER/INTERF=DECW.
We usually have at least two 'MCC Stations' in  operation at a given time, 
and have never experienced the problem you are describing.

	What version of INFOSERVER software and VXT software is running
on your INFOSERVER.(Assumming thats how you are booting the VXT's). We have
Version 3.0  of the INFOSERVER and 2.1 of the VXT software.

	Regards,
		Gord C.

	
5895.4the problem was fixed accidentallyBWTEAL::W_MCGAWFri Mar 11 1994 13:1214
    Hi Gord,
    
    Thanks for the response!  I called the customer back to follow up on
    the call and found out that he is using V2.2 Infoserver software and
    V1.3 VXT software.  The good news is that he had received an iconic map
    exe file from engineering to fix another open problem he had and it
    solved several problems including the one I entered this note for.  It
    sure would be nice to have actual CSCPAT_nnnn patches from MCC
    engineering that we could supply to customers instead of having to
    escalate.  The customer gets the patch from engineering but we are left
    out of the loop (fat, dumb but unhappy :-(
    
    Thanks again,
    Walt
5895.5SCCA::daveAhh, but fortunately, I have the key to escape reality.Fri Mar 11 1994 18:421
CSCPAT numbers are from the CSC, not Engineering. 
5895.6regarding CSCPAT numbersBWTEAL::W_MCGAWMon Mar 14 1994 12:019
    re: .5
    
    This is true... but from what I understand, the CSC can not assign
    CSCPAT numbers to a patch unless it is delivered through the
    appropriate channels and has met all of the criteria for becoming a
    fully distributable patch.
    
    Thanks,
    Walt