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Title:DECmcc user notes file. Does not replace IPMT.
Notice:Use IPMT for problems. Newsletter location in note 6187
Moderator:TAEC::BEROUD
Created:Mon Aug 21 1989
Last Modified:Wed Jun 04 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:6497
Total number of notes:27359

5787.0. "Translan SNMP Error Statistics problem" by NEWOA::EVANS_M () Thu Dec 16 1993 12:44

We have a problem running total error rate statistics on a Vitalink bridged 
network. The rules are looking for Total Error Rates exceeding 1% for the 
Ethernet and v35 ports. The rules fail consistently with Total error rates in 
the order of 4% - 10%.

On investigation the port error counters are not increasing apart from the 
ifindiscards (Which I believe is the frames filtered by the bridge). 

The Vitalink counters show that the incrementing variables are :-

		frames transmitted
		frames received
		multicast transmitted
		multicast received
		recieve discarded

The Polycenter Performance analyzer SNMP statistics show the formular to be :-

	Total error = (ifindiscards+ifinerrors+ifinunknownprotos)
	packet %	+(ifoutdiscards+ifouterrors)
			-----------------------------------------
		      ((ifinUcastpkts+ifinUcastpkts+ifindiscards
			+ifinerrors+ifunknownprotos)
			  +(ifoutUcastpkts+ifoutNucastpkts+ifouterrors))


It would imply that the ifindiscards counter is causing the high result, so is 
the inclusion of ifindiscards valid for a bridge port where discarding frames 
is a normal function.

For a router port the ifindiscards would not increase in normal operation.

The Lanbridge algorithm does not use frames discarded, so is the performance 
analyzer getting it wrong for a vitalink bridge using SNMP error statistics.


Can anyone help


Thanks

Mat Evans
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5787.1Documented behavior; you *can* code around it.IMDOWN::MCPHERSONInterstate Hwys in Hawaii?Thu Dec 16 1993 13:5316
    LANbridge algorithms are specific to lanbridges. 
    SNMP algorithms apply to ALL SNMP obects that return MIB2 attributes. 
    You cannot tailor the SNMP PA algorithms. 
    You cannot tailor the LANbridge algorithms. 
    In summary: there is nothing that can be done to alleviate your
    problem, as stated.
    
    Your only options are 
    	1. change the statistic that you are looking for, or
    	2. write your own FM that either 	
    	   a. gathers the exact variables that you want from the SNMP AM or 
    	   b. calls the PA FM for the SNMP objects in question & 'tailors' the
    	      output of the PA equations, based on your own tables. (may
              actually be easier to code than option b.)
    
    /doug