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Conference azur::mcc

Title:DECmcc user notes file. Does not replace IPMT.
Notice:Use IPMT for problems. Newsletter location in note 6187
Moderator:TAEC::BEROUD
Created:Mon Aug 21 1989
Last Modified:Wed Jun 04 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:6497
Total number of notes:27359

5250.0. "BMS V1.3 and DNS V1.x?" by WARABI::CHIUANDREW () Thu Jun 24 1993 03:40

    Hi,
    I new to DNS, but my customer will use DNS with DECmcc to manage their
    network.
    
    Refer to note 4693.1, does it mean DECmcc BMS V1.3 can ONLY talk to 
    DNS V1.1/V1.2/V1.3 server?
    
    Second question: DNS Clerk comes with DECnet-VAX Ext where DNS version 
    is 5.2-000 (the image version DNS$ADVER.EXE), does it mean my DECmcc
    workstation (running with DNS clerk/DNV-ext) can access to the DNS
    server (V1.1/V1.2/V1.3) running in a VAXcluster connected to the same
    Ethernet LAN?
    
    Thanks in advance for help!
    Andrew Chiu - NIS Sydney  
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5250.1TOOK::R_SPENCENets don't fail me now...Thu Jun 24 1993 16:188
    The DNS clerk that is supplied with VMS for DECnet Phase IV will
    talk to an V1.x DNS Server.
    
    The note you refer to (4693.1) is discussing autoconfig. Autoconfig
    expects to be run on a system which is a decnet phase iv system
    which therefore uses dns V1.x.
    
    s/rob
5250.2DNS V1.1 supported for DECmcc V1.0-V1.3CUJO::HILLDan Hill-Net.Mgt.-Customer ResidentFri Jul 02 1993 02:1149
    Andrew,
    
    Don't be confused by the DNS image versions when doing analyze/image.
    There are only two versions of DECdns in use today.  They are V1.1 and
    V2.0.  
    
    DECdns V2.0 requires DECnet Phase V extensions.  You can have a DECdns
    V2.0 server node using V1.1 format of the repository, so, if you know
    what you are doing, you could potentially have a V2.0 server and a V1.1
    server in the same namespace.  Unless you are a glutton for punishment,
    I would recommend against it.
    
    DECdns is not trivial.  You must spend at least as much time learning
    DNS as you would learning Polycenter Network Manager (DECmcc).  There
    are several notes in this conference that deal with DNS issues.  I
    advise you to check them out.
    
    I also advise you to make a call to the support center and request a
    DNS expert.  Ask questions.  Read manuals.  Give up your personal life.
    
    To quickly answer your questions:
    
    The DNS client software comes with VMS.  Simply include the
    "@SYS$STARTUP:DNS$CLIENT_STARTUP.COM"  command in your system startup
    procedure on VMS after first executing the DNS$CHANGE_DEFAULT_FILE.COM
    procedure to point to a DNS server node on the network.
    
    You may have more than one DNS server in your namespace.  The namespace
    is composed of clearinghouses which reside on the server nodes (look in
    SYS$SYSROOT:[DNS$SERVER] on the DNS server nodes.  The *_CH.DNS files
    are the clearinghouses.  There is one clearinghouse per server. 
    Directories are in clearinghouses.  Objects, groups, links, and other
    directories are in directories.
    
    You may reach any DNS server via the DECnet transport on a LAN or
    extended LAN.  
    
    Be sure you use the MCC_DNS_SETUP.COM procedures to create directories
    and backtranslation links, etc.  
    
    
    READ, READ, READ.   PRAY, PRAY, PRAY.
    
    Several weeks of cursing, rebuilding namespaces, re-installing DNS, and
    populating namespaces with PNM entities will make you a guru.  You will
    be worshipped and some may even buy you lunch or name their children
    after you.
    
    -Dan
5250.3DECdns and DECmcc 1.2 vs. 1.3TUXEDO::SMARTFri Aug 20 1993 12:1215
    I have a question regarding MCC 1.3's use of DECdns. A customer who
    uses DECmcc and DECdns has been unable to access certain namepsaces
    without control access.  I have done a protocol trace and it appears
    that MCC is attempting to do a modify on the DNS$ACS attribute (in
    DECdns).  Can someone who is knowledgeable about DECmcc verify whether
    or not this is the case?  
    
    The customer did not experience this error using MCC 1.2, but is now
    finding problems with DECdns and DECmcc 1.3
    
    
    thanx 
    
    ryan